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Old 11-19-2020, 07:52 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Study of potential crayon eaters shows that social distancing, masks, sanitization, and quarantine do little to nothing to stop the spread.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2029717

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They are seeing how much bullchit you will put up with. Then add more once you get used to it.
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I wouldn't be surprised to see a whole new round of riots/protests/chaos over the next few years initiated by completely different organizations than we typically see. Im actually expecting it.
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Might be time to move to Montana and raise some dental floss......
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Retiring in Ecuador or Argentina.
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Good data, but to understand whether or not social distancing, masks, sanitization, and quarantine actually have an impact, they'd have to conduct the same tests completely without those in place and compare the infection rates afterwards. It'd be more fair to say that those steps do not totally prevent the spread of infection.
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https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6944e1.htm

CDC study showing a pretty high rate of infection in the same households where none of these controls were in place.
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My takeaway is that those things do work (only 1-2% were infected) but are not perfect. As the report pointed out, some of the infections may have come from cleaning staff and other outsiders.
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My takeaway is that those things do work (only 1-2% were infected) but are not perfect. As the report pointed out, some of the infections may have come from cleaning staff and other outsiders.
Exactly. Every study I've seen has shown that if you've got masks and proper ventilation, you've got highly reduced chances of getting it, and while that may certainly be motivated by other things, my practical experience bears it out. In my facility we've had 2 persons test positive in the entire time since Covid started, even in the middle of Philly. Those 2 people were married to each other, and contracted covid outside of our facility, where they were part of large gatherings without masks. They spread nothing inside the facility. Presumably, if they had not worn masks in a large ventilated space, at least of the people working with them closely would have gotten it.

I recognize this is anecdotal, I just am not convinced everything is a conspiracy (although it might be).
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