CoronaVirus

TobinH · 03-24-2020, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghostvette

The 'true scoop' isn't going to be found on US MSM. I'll sum it up for you. China unleashed a bioweapon to try and reduce their older population. They did this in November 2019 and apparently allowed known infected people to travel world-wide. They then covered it up for almost 3 months before it became too big to hide. The WHO then lied to the world that this was a 'nothing burger'.

Now we are about 2 weeks away from God knows what.....

because i'm in manufacturing, i have a lot of contact with chinese citizens and people in industry.

additionally, thousands of canadians were in china until quite recently, many of them giving interviews to the CBC daily.

additionally additional, literally millions of chinese citizens are active across various social media platforms, giving easy access to their personal experiences.

everything you're saying is such obvious nonsense, and so easily disproved with even an accidental level of exposure to any of the huge mass of available information, that it really makes me wonder why you would choose to believe it.

MZ DAIZY · 03-24-2020, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by TobinH

because i'm in manufacturing, i have a lot of contact with chinese citizens and people in industry.

additionally, thousands of canadians were in china until quite recently, many of them giving interviews to the CBC daily.

additionally additional, literally millions of chinese citizens are active across various social media platforms, giving easy access to their personal experiences.

everything you're saying is such obvious nonsense, and so easily disproved with even an accidental level of exposure to any of the huge mass of available information, that it really makes me wonder why you would choose to believe it.

Yea, EVERYONE knows it started with some dude eating a bat.

Zingston · 03-24-2020, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by MZ DAIZY

Yea, EVERYONE knows it started with some dude eating a bat.

I have voluntarily given up eating bat products as a result.

Who knew???

FPenvy · 03-24-2020, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by MZ DAIZY

Yea, EVERYONE knows it started with some dude eating a bat.

.....from a market less than 20 miles from a virus center containing the virus.

Ghostvette · 03-24-2020, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TobinH

because i'm in manufacturing, i have a lot of contact with chinese citizens and people in industry.

additionally, thousands of canadians were in china until quite recently, many of them giving interviews to the CBC daily.

additionally additional, literally millions of chinese citizens are active across various social media platforms, giving easy access to their personal experiences.

everything you're saying is such obvious nonsense, and so easily disproved with even an accidental level of exposure to any of the huge mass of available information, that it really makes me wonder why you would choose to believe it.

Not to be argumentative, but do you really believe anything coming out of China, given the level of propaganda that the CCP puts out? The Chinese social media is heavily censored, what you might have seen may or may not have been manipulated.

The facts say otherwise. Wuhan is the home of a Level 4 Bioweapons facility. SARS, MERS and now this virus all originated in Wuhan during their specific start times. Isn't it the least bit odd that neither SARS or MERS has reappeared, yet now we have another coronavirus from the same family as those two, appearing? Occam's Razor applies; the most obvious solution is the correct one.

TobinH · 03-24-2020, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghostvette

Not to be argumentative, but do you really believe anything coming out of China, given the level of propaganda that the CCP puts out? The Chinese social media is heavily censored, what you might have seen may or may not have been manipulated.

The facts say otherwise. Wuhan is the home of a Level 4 Bioweapons facility. SARS, MERS and now this virus all originated in Wuhan during their specific start times. Isn't it the least bit odd that neither SARS or MERS has reappeared, yet now we have another coronavirus from the same family as those two, appearing? Occam's Razor applies; the most obvious solution is the correct one.

do I trust what comes out of the ccp? state owned media is easily identified. just... don't read it. talk to actual chinese people. why do people act as if it's impossible to know what's going on in china? tens of thousands of people? maybe more? go there on business every year. there are millions of chinese people scattered across dozens of social media sites, several of which are well beyond the control of China. just literally ask them. follow chinese people on twitter if you like. why would you choose these obscure conspiratorial sources over just asking chinese people? if fox news told you your neighbour's home was burning down, and your neighbour pointed to it and said 'uhhh no, it isn't', would you call him a liar?

Wuhan is a manufacturing centre with over 10 million people. it's the home of every kind of facility.

the idea that 'occam's razor' suggests that tens of millions of people are lying to cover up the chinese government's attempt to kill their own people and destroy their own economy is stretching the terms involved well past their breaking point.

oh, and neither 'classic' SARS nor MERS originated in Wuhan. instead of reading these wild conspiracy theories, you could just spend 15 minutes on google.

Ghostvette · 03-24-2020, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TobinH

do I trust what comes out of the ccp? state owned media is easily identified. just... don't read it. talk to actual chinese people. why do people act as if it's impossible to know what's going on in china? tens of thousands of people? maybe more? go there on business every year. there are millions of chinese people scattered across dozens of social media sites, several of which are well beyond the control of China. just literally ask them. follow chinese people on twitter if you like. why would you choose these obscure conspiratorial sources over just asking chinese people? if fox news told you your neighbour's home was burning down, and your neighbour pointed to it and said 'uhhh no, it isn't', would you call him a liar?

Wuhan is a manufacturing centre with over 10 million people. it's the home of every kind of facility.

the idea that 'occam's razor' suggests that tens of millions of people are lying to cover up the chinese government's attempt to kill their own people and destroy their own economy is stretching the terms involved well past their breaking point.

oh, and neither 'classic' SARS nor MERS originated in Wuhan. instead of reading these wild conspiracy theories, you could just spend 15 minutes on google.

Sorry, but you are incorrect and my sources are much better than Google.

TobinH · 03-24-2020, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghostvette

Sorry, but you are incorrect and my sources are much better than Google.

incorrect? i've listed easily verifiable, publicly known facts.

what the **** is going on in this thread? are you guys going to argue about whether the 370z has an inline four next? when someone says 'uhhhh just go look under the hood maybe?' are you all going to say INCORRECT!

FPenvy · 03-24-2020, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TobinH

incorrect? i've listed easily verifiable, publicly known facts.

what the **** is going on in this thread? are you guys going to argue about whether the 370z has an inline four next? when someone says 'uhhhh just go look under the hood maybe?' are you all going to say INCORRECT!

woah woah woah.......if they try to put a 4 cyl in the Z we know nissan is dead.

false news.