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ZCanadian 04-02-2020 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3920689)
When I worked for the DoD back in the 70's. There was chit going on that other branches of gov't or anyone else didn't know on what was going on. When I left. I had to sign a stack of NDA's. Leavenworth is not appealing.

Recalling a scene from M*A*S*H where Winchester is threatened with court-martial (April fools joke by Potter & friend): "Leavenworth. MY GOD, THAT'S IN KANSAS!" LOL


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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3920702)
In reading about the number of deaths in each country. Each country is using different methods of determining on how a person has died. Some countries are not reporting deaths caused by the virus if the person had other health issues. China is one of them. That why their deaths are so low. Estimates put the death toll around 48,000.

Italy is not counting undiagnosed deaths from people who are afraid to go to hospital and then die at home. Nor are they doing tests post-mortem for people who come to hospital and die before treatment. A hospital administrator in Lombardia estimated the death toll to be more than 4x the official number. TO HAMMER THAT POINT HOME, NEARLY 4,000 PEOPLE A DAY ARE ACTUALLY DYING OF THIS IN ITALY.

I suspect that it will be the same elsewhere (Spain, the UK, Germany and even parts of the US and Canada, although not as bad on this continent yet).

bunk 04-02-2020 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ZCanadian (Post 3920724)
Recalling a scene from M*A*S*H where Winchester is threatened with court-martial (April fools joke by Potter & friend): "Leavenworth. MY GOD, THAT'S IN KANSAS!" LOL




Italy is not counting undiagnosed deaths from people who are afraid to go to hospital and then die at home. Nor are they doing tests post-mortem for people who come to hospital and die before treatment. A hospital administrator in Lombardia estimated the death toll to be more than 4x the official number. TO HAMMER THAT POINT HOME, NEARLY 4,000 PEOPLE A DAY ARE ACTUALLY DYING OF THIS IN ITALY.

I suspect that it will be the same elsewhere (Spain, the UK, Germany and even parts of the US and Canada, although not as bad on this continent yet).

There needs to be a standard on these statistics. Here, if you die in a car accident (or any other way) and they find the virus in your system, youre counted as a corona virus statistic.

Ghostvette 04-02-2020 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ZCanadian (Post 3920724)
Recalling a scene from M*A*S*H where Winchester is threatened with court-martial (April fools joke by Potter & friend): "Leavenworth. MY GOD, THAT'S IN KANSAS!" LOL

Well, for someone from Bahston (or however they pronounce it), going to Kansas is like being exiled to BFE. :bowrofl::bowrofl:


There ain't much here outside of cows and wheat fields......:rolleyes:

JARblue 04-02-2020 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by bunk (Post 3920725)
There needs to be a standard on these statistics. Here, if you die in a car accident (or any other way) and they find the virus in your system, youre counted as a corona virus statistic.

What about someone who commits suicide in fear of the virus but tests negative post mortem? I think that should count as a corona virus statistic.

bunk 04-02-2020 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3920730)
What about someone who commits suicide in fear of the virus but tests negative post mortem? I think that should count as a corona virus statistic.

As long as its counted the same in other countries i suppose!

JARblue 04-02-2020 11:08 AM

I think one qualification for the statistic would be a note that confirms they did it because of the virus. But you're right; either way we need consistency :iagree:

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asht 04-02-2020 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3920733)
I think one qualification for the statistic would be a note that confirms they did it because of the virus. But you're right; either way we need consistency :iagree:


Guys you are being ridiculous. If
Someone committed Suso ode because he thought he would catch the Black Death are
You saying he should count as a Black Death victim?


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ZCanadian 04-02-2020 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by asht (Post 3920758)
Guys you are being ridiculous. If
Someone committed Suso ode because he thought he would catch the Black Death are
You saying he should count as a Black Death victim?

I don't know whether we subjects of ERII just don't get the American sense of humour, or what. But at least we spell it correctly! ;-)

asht 04-02-2020 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ZCanadian (Post 3920760)
I don't know whether we subjects of ERII just don't get the American sense of humour, or what. But at least we spell it correctly! ;-)


Have you tried typing in Nitrile gloves and a touch screen?

Wasn’t my fault your Jewel BlackBerry ****** it up. Give me a BlackBerry and there’d be no typos

I was a senior analyst at BlackBerry


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Rusty 04-02-2020 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by asht (Post 3920718)
That’s nothing to crow about. Your colleagues in the 2000s phoned me up to ask what the difference was between magnetic north and true north. No wonder you guys couldn’t shoot straight


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You sound like my grandfather on my mom's side. Damn Johnnybull. :rofl2:

Rusty 04-02-2020 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ZCanadian (Post 3920760)
I don't know whether we subjects of ERII just don't get the American sense of humour, or what. But at least we spell it correctly! ;-)

A lot of stuff goes right over your head. :rofl2:

We may talk the same language. That's about it.

ZCanadian 04-02-2020 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3920776)
A lot of stuff goes right over your head. :rofl2:

We may talk the same language. That's about it.

Yup, separated by a common language!


Oh, and per your earlier comment re the tags. I have the most. Does that mean that I win? :rofl2:

Spooler 04-02-2020 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ZCanadian (Post 3920779)

Oh, and per your earlier comment re the tags. I have the most. Does that mean that I win? :rofl2:

Some of those are quit funny. LMAO.....

cossie1600 04-02-2020 02:29 PM

Let them drain your resources yay

https://www.smh.com.au/national/chin...25-p54du8.html

ZCanadian 04-02-2020 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 3920783)

Old news (March 26). Australia had actually sent supplies to China (as in, to help), too.
But they have now banned the export of PPE.

cossie1600 04-02-2020 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ZCanadian (Post 3920785)
Old news (March 26). Australia had actually sent supplies to China (as in, to help), too.
But they have now banned the export of PPE.

Except they sourced them in January and February, before your WHO declared an epidemic.

China at their best, listing a Chinese company on the US stock exchange. Let the white folks make some money, while they get to briing some USD overseas to serve their debt and buy food.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/02/inves...ock/index.html

Rusty 04-02-2020 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ZCanadian (Post 3920779)
Yup, separated by a common language!


Oh, and per your earlier comment re the tags. I have the most. Does that mean that I win? :rofl2:

No, tag, you're it. :rofl2: Or until someone else gets to be the target.

Rusty 04-02-2020 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 3920786)
Except they sourced them in January and February, before your WHO declared an epidemic.

China at their best, listing a Chinese company on the US stock exchange. Let the white folks make some money, while they get to briing some USD overseas to serve their debt and buy food.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/02/inves...ock/index.html

Chinese Mafi.

ZCanadian 04-02-2020 03:28 PM

All kidding and jibes aside, this is important because almost everyone here either suffers from one of several diseases that make them more susceptible to succumbing to Covid-19, or has a family member or dear friend who does.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...63d_story.html

The article mentions that
People who have chronic medical conditions, such as diabetes, lung disease and heart disease, face an increased chance of being hospitalized with covid-19 and put into intensive care, according to data released Tuesday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention that is consistent with reports from China and Italy. (please avoid eye rolling just because China is mentioned).

There was an article in The Lancet two weeks ago about a study (un reviewed at the time) suggesting that the correlation was actually due to certain medications used to treat these illnesses. ARB blockers and Ace Inhibitors apparently assist in the expression of an enzyme (ACE2) to which the SARS-CoV-2 (novel coronavirus) binds to target cells. Apparently, Ibuprofin acts in the same manner.

Original Lancet article here:
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...116-8/fulltext

There have been duelling studies ever since, most of the details of which I admittedly don't understand. But there appears to be a correlation, be it on account of the underlying conditions or the medicines used to combat them.

Obviously, you cannot take people off life-saving medication. But it would make sense to protect these people even more than you might otherwise. And maybe change analgesics to ASA or Acetaminophen.

cossie1600 04-02-2020 03:33 PM

Nature is cruel, it goes after the sickest and weakest first.

asht 04-02-2020 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3920773)
You sound like my grandfather on my mom's side. Damn Johnnybull. :rofl2:


You aren’t helping the reputation


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asht 04-02-2020 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3920776)
A lot of stuff goes right over your head. :rofl2:

We may talk the same language. That's about it.


We don’t. You call people a jerk, we think you mean idiot. Our word flows off the tongue better


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Rusty 04-02-2020 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by asht (Post 3920804)
You aren’t helping the reputation


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I'm a mixed bag. English, Scott, and Irish on my mom's side. Jones and O'Gallaher.

ZCanadian 04-02-2020 04:13 PM

Hey, looks like you might be getting some of those Australian masks in NYC, thanks to China.
Well, "thanks" probably included a fair bit of money changing hands.

:roflpuke2:

https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-ai...34afa2c36.html

Excerpt:
A plane from Shanghai arrived at John F. Kennedy International Airport in New York Sunday morning carrying an extraordinary load: 12 million gloves, 130,000 N95 masks, 1.7 million surgical masks, 50,000 gowns, 130,000 hand sanitizer units, and 36,000 thermometers.

Why it matters: The flight is the start of what might end up being the largest government-led airlift of emergency medical supplies into the United States.

That's according to Rear Adm. John Polowczyk, who runs the coronavirus supply chain task force at the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA). He spoke to Axios on Saturday night.
The airlift is the most dramatic part of the Trump administration's frantic attempts to catch up with a nationwide medical equipment crisis.
What's next: Polowczyk told Axios that he's already booked 22 similar flights over the next two weeks.


Yesterday, a Russian cargo plane landed at JFK with a similar load.

SouthArk370Z 04-02-2020 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 3920801)
Nature is cruel, it goes after the sickest and weakest first.

Nature is neither cruel nor kind. Nature has never heard of karma. Nature doesn't give a shite about you, me, or the rest of the Universe.

cossie1600 04-02-2020 05:14 PM

Of course, they have been selling the masks for $5-$12 a pop to many countries. They want people to think they are world saviors by controlling the masks supply (Mask Diplomacy). If you have been following world politics, you will know this has been discussed for weeks now. You can find many dated articles, videos and pictures online.

In typical Chinese fashion, you have to throw half of them out due to bad quality.

https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-ne...ina/a-52949216

This is a funny story.

They claimed they donated the masks to Italy, the government had to come out and say they bought it.

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/ea...reign-minister

They just crashed another military helicopter, no details. I wonder what happened...



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Originally Posted by ZCanadian (Post 3920808)
Hey, looks like you might be getting some of those Australian masks in NYC, thanks to China.
Well, "thanks" probably included a fair bit of money changing hands.

:roflpuke2:

https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-ai...34afa2c36.html

Excerpt:
A plane from Shanghai arrived at John F. Kennedy International Airport in New York Sunday morning carrying an extraordinary load: 12 million gloves, 130,000 N95 masks, 1.7 million surgical masks, 50,000 gowns, 130,000 hand sanitizer units, and 36,000 thermometers.

Why it matters: The flight is the start of what might end up being the largest government-led airlift of emergency medical supplies into the United States.

That's according to Rear Adm. John Polowczyk, who runs the coronavirus supply chain task force at the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA). He spoke to Axios on Saturday night.
The airlift is the most dramatic part of the Trump administration's frantic attempts to catch up with a nationwide medical equipment crisis.
What's next: Polowczyk told Axios that he's already booked 22 similar flights over the next two weeks.


Yesterday, a Russian cargo plane landed at JFK with a similar load.


asht 04-02-2020 05:31 PM

The Philippines President has given the ok to shoot anyone breaking the lockdown order

Definitely wouldn’t get that in Britain though I know a few people I’d gladly encourage to go to the gym


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Spooler 04-02-2020 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 3920812)
Nature is neither cruel nor kind. Nature has never heard of karma. Nature doesn't give a shite about you, me, or the rest of the Universe.

Hence why we say "Mother Nature is a bitch"....

Rusty 04-02-2020 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3920823)
Hence why we say "Mother Nature is a bitch"....

She can be a fvckin ciint at times. :eek:

asht 04-02-2020 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3920833)
She can be a fvckin ciint at times. :eek:


Yes she can...


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JARblue 04-02-2020 07:55 PM

Whatever... Mother Nature is just going with the flow (aka evolution). We're the asshòles mucking everything up :shakes head:

Spooler 04-02-2020 07:56 PM

Listen to this. N95 Masks, listen for yourself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsmKvC7RpEQ

Zoren 370 04-02-2020 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by asht (Post 3920817)
The Philippines President has given the ok to shoot anyone breaking the lockdown order

Definitely wouldn’t get that in Britain though I know a few people I’d gladly encourage to go to the gym


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He wont be called Digong for nothing “the Butcher”!

“The End justifies the Means”

If not for him the country would be run by Druglords
like Mexico.

Rusty 04-02-2020 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3920841)
Whatever... Mother Nature is just going with the flow (aka evolution). We're the asshòles mucking everything up :shakes head:

I like to think of myself as a step above an amoeba. At least I have more then one brain cell, when compared to other people.

Spooler 04-02-2020 10:45 PM

Zoren, you will be getting more masks in your hospital soon. 3M makes 1 million N95 masks a week in the USA.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIExosQFn94

ZCanadian 04-03-2020 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3920902)
I like to think of myself as a step above an amoeba. At least I have more then one brain cell, when compared to other people.

But your reproduction method is less fun!

It seems that the first symptom of Covid 19 isn’t coughing, fever, or shortness of breath. It’s stupidity. My theory is that it come from people “working from home” in the pyjamas. Don’t know about you, but I’ve seen people do some really dumb things in the last couple of weeks!

asht 04-03-2020 06:09 AM

https://youtu.be/jGTcw-b1crc


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Zoren 370 04-03-2020 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by asht (Post 3920948)
https://youtu.be/jGTcw-b1crc




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I would like to taste 6 orders of yoda dumplings and one mudslide baba tea!

Rusty 04-03-2020 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ZCanadian (Post 3920943)
But your reproduction method is less fun!

It seems that the first symptom of Covid 19 isn’t coughing, fever, or shortness of breath. It’s stupidity. My theory is that it come from people “working from home” in the pyjamas. Don’t know about you, but I’ve seen people do some really dumb things in the last couple of weeks!

Day after they locked down the state. I see more people out and about then before. :shakes head:

They closed the local mall. Now all the mall walkers are at my store walking around. The bad thing is the shoplifters are mixed in with them. :mad:


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