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JLarson 04-06-2020 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300 (Post 3921885)
i just shanked my toilet... ohh gosh.

Gave it the old poop-shank - not cool bro.

Spooler 04-06-2020 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3921899)
I am doing my best to practice the patience of Job!

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Same here. Hang in there. I wish I would have dumped all my money into my 280z. :confused:
They are getting so rare I wouldn't have wanted to drive it much though.

bunk 04-06-2020 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by JLarson (Post 3921900)
This is decidedly on topic, but I talked with Royalty Performance yesterday, and they are working on an update to their diff brace which will clear the Fast Intentions exhaust.

RP cut too much material on their brace for the logo. Wonder how the update will be like.

Spoiler 04-06-2020 10:11 AM

Rusty,

Say Happy Birthday to Chris for both Mrs Spoiler and I.

She must be quite excited. Today must make her old enough to buy beer finally..

-Spoiler

JARblue 04-06-2020 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by JLarson (Post 3921900)
This is decidedly on topic, but I talked with Royalty Performance yesterday, and they are working on an update to their diff brace which will clear the Fast Intentions exhaust.

Good to hear :tup:

I've been waiting to buy a diff brace; figure I'll want one at some point. But I'm not buying the Bell Works bs - they even made a second version for finned diff covers that still doesn't work with most of the canister exhaust designs :shakes head:

JARblue 04-06-2020 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3921899)
I am doing my best to practice the patience of Job!

I will never even pretend to have the patience of Job. That story is one of the reasons I will never understand religion :icon14:

Why the hell would God put a righteous man through all that bs just to prove a point to the Devil? What a děck!! :icon17:

JLarson 04-06-2020 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3921919)
I will never even pretend to have the patience of Job. That story is one of the reasons I will never understand religion :icon14:

Why the hell would God put a righteous man through all that bs just to prove a point to the Devil? What a děck!! :icon17:

The counterpoint is that God didn't put Job through that. Satan did. God merely withdrew his protection so it could happen. Whether or not that difference means anything to you is dependent on whether or not you think God is somehow obligated to protect people. The rabbit hole can go pretty deep in theology.

JARblue 04-06-2020 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by JLarson (Post 3921922)
The counterpoint is that God didn't put Job through that. Satan did. God merely withdrew his protection so it could happen. Whether or not that difference means anything to you is dependent on whether or not you think God is somehow obligated to protect people. The rabbit hole can go pretty deep in theology.

Same difference :shakes head:

Still a děck move. God allowed it to happen for no good reason :rolleyes:

Spoiler 04-06-2020 10:34 AM

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Update on JC. He was just seen in rural GA. He’s got his stuff loaded on and is about to start steering it back home now...

JLarson 04-06-2020 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3921924)
Same difference :shakes head:

Still a děck move. God allowed it to happen for no good reason :rolleyes:

That begs the question of why God is obligated to interfere at all, for anyone.

bunk 04-06-2020 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Spoiler (Post 3921927)
Update on JC. He was just seen rolling through rural GA. He’s got his stuff loaded on and is carefully steering it back home now...

His lift is buried somewhere in there.

JARblue 04-06-2020 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by JLarson (Post 3921928)
That begs the question of why God is obligated to interfere at all, for anyone.

lol that's a completely different argument. If God is providing protection and then removes it for no reason, that's a děck move. Regardless of whether he was obligated.

Like giving a child a piece of candy only to take it away from them so you can watch them cry. I'm not obligated to give the kid candy, but once I do I've set precedence.

Ghostvette 04-06-2020 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300 (Post 3921673)
im gonna buy that impact driver tomorrow morning at home depot.. so i can get my military discount..:ugh:

Waitaminit......you got an AFID.....Nofuckinway......:gtfo2:


I didn't think HD gave military discount to wing wipers.....ya'll ain't real military....:inoutroflpuke:

JLarson 04-06-2020 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3921930)
lol that's a completely different argument. If God is providing protection and then removes it for no reason, that's a děck move. Regardless of whether he was obligated.

Like giving a child a piece of candy only to take it away from them so you can watch them cry. I'm not obligated to give the kid candy, but once I do I've set precedence.

No, it's not like giving a child candy only to take it away. Me protecting a child so they can get the candy for themselves, and then no longer protecting that child - that's a much closer comparison.

Zingston 04-06-2020 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300 (Post 3921891)
im hurt'n duude...i think i left body parts behind..:icon14::icon14::icon14:



I have the perfect solution for your issue, especially now that you live in FLA: Pomelo. Try eating one or two a day for a week and see if that doesnt help.


:yum::tiphat::icon17:

FPenvy 04-06-2020 10:41 AM

religious references flying around?........

:wtf2:

JARblue 04-06-2020 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by JLarson (Post 3921933)
No, it's not like giving a child candy only to take it away. Me protecting a child so they can get the candy for themselves, and then no longer protecting that child - that's a much closer comparison.

You're ignoring key elements in the Job scenario...

So let's compare it to giving a piece of candy to a young kid who is on a playground with a bully who you know is going to take the candy from the kid. But you give the kid the candy anyway and then look away. That's on you, as you are a grown adult who is aware of the situation.


This isn't a religious argument. I'm simply commenting on the story of Job and how ridiculous it sounds to me...

JLarson 04-06-2020 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3921938)
You're ignoring key elements in the Job scenario...

So let's compare it to giving a piece of candy to a young kid who is on a playground with a bully who you know is going to take the candy from the kid. But you give the kid the candy anyway and then look away. That's on you, as you are a grown adult who is aware of the situation.

I'm not ignoring key elements, but your basic argument is flawed. You're again saying that in this scenario, I'm giving something to someone. I'm not. I'm permitting someone to acquire property, unmolested, and protecting them during those transactions. I don't owe it to them, I don't have to do it, but I'm doing it anyway because I want to. At a certain point, I either no longer want to or have other motivation to not do so.

1) I'm not obligated.
2) We had no agreement that I'd protect you, I just did it.
3) I am aware that harm is going to befall you, in the way that harm befalls anyone who is a part of this life. That's a part of life.

(btw, I argue the point because I find it interesting to hear other people's perspectives. Job is always a fascinating topic.)

Spoiler 04-06-2020 10:53 AM

I’m glad no one takes my bacon away...

I mean, if you want to see a guy cry...

:shakes head:

Ghostvette 04-06-2020 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300 (Post 3921876)
11M then 88M

MT... 3500 in the Marine Corps. It's no wonder you don't drive your Z, it doesn't have a diesel....:inoutroflpuke:





j/k just bustin' your chops............................................. .

































doggy.....:bowrofl::bowrofl:

Spoiler 04-06-2020 11:00 AM

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Another update on JC... Eastbound and down....

JARblue 04-06-2020 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by JLarson (Post 3921942)
I'm not ignoring key elements, but your basic argument is flawed. You're again saying that in this scenario, I'm giving something to someone. I'm not. I'm permitting someone to acquire property, unmolested, and protecting them during those transactions. I don't owe it to them, I don't have to do it, but I'm doing it anyway because I want to. At a certain point, I either no longer want to or have other motivation to not do so.

1) I'm not obligated.
True but has no bearing on the argument at hand
2) We had no agreement that I'd protect you, I just did it.
Fair enough. But if you then boast about what you do provide, that makes you a děck. This is what God did to Satan
3) I am aware that harm is going to befall you, in the way that harm befalls anyone who is a part of this life. That's a part of life.
That's a cop-out excuse if I've ever heard one. Satan is right there. He's the bully in my argument above - you know he's going to do something right then and there when you remove your protection. If the story didn't involve God and Satan having an argument over Job then I agree with the 'that's part of life' statement.

(btw, I argue the point because I find it interesting to hear other people's perspectives. Job is always a fascinating topic.)

Same here :tiphat: :)

Someone who isn't obligated to give, yet does anyway, and then takes away their gift for no reason other than to prove a point to someone else is a děck. No one yet has convinced me otherwise.

Ghostvette 04-06-2020 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300 (Post 3921876)
11M then 88M

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Originally Posted by bunk (Post 3921886)
I was a 16R, 16S, then 81B in the reserves.
We went to the field and the grunts we were supporting were undermanned. I was voluntold to fill in as 11B. Carrying a SAW at night, walking in rain, slushing through deep mud. No thanks! Give me a track any day.

My list is long:

2811: Telephone/switchboard repairman
2841: Ground radio repairman (the radios that got carried around. PRC-77, etc)
2851/5937: Aviation radio repairman (ground based radios that talked to aircraft)
2861: Ground radio technician (same as 2841, but SSGT & above)
2866/5939: Aviation radio repairman (sames as 2851, but SSGT & above)
0411: Embark specialist (They hadn't figured out that Maintenance Management was a separate MOS yet)
5811: Military Police section chief

Zoren 370 04-06-2020 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by bunk (Post 3921859)
How severe were her symptoms?

I would say it was bad she was down for 4-5 days she got all the symptoms but she did have to go through respiratory failure or intubation unlike her in laws.

Both had to go intubation unfortunately didn’t make it.
I would say my sister got the same strain as they live together in one house.

Her son is still positive on the second test but no symptoms.

My sister said they need to have 2 negative test in a week spread for her to be able to go back and practice her MD profession.

Her son is 15 years old.

JLarson 04-06-2020 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3921951)
Same here :tiphat: :)

Someone who isn't obligated to give, yet does anyway, and then takes away their gift for no reason other than to prove a point to someone else is a děck. No one yet has convinced me otherwise.

I get your perspective. I don't personally agree with it and in fact, if the story is to be taken literally, I think it might be worth any loss to actually get a chance to question God; but I see your argument and think you raise a good point.

That's where arguing morality with a deity gets tricky though, right? A proponent of the way Job plays out could state "well God knew what was going to happen, and good came from out. Therefore, we argue from our limited perspectives, bound by time. In the context of the infinite, this was worthwhile."

An opponent could argue this is just splitting hairs, and something which causes any harm can never be justified.

Thanks for the discussion - time for me to get a coffee. :tiphat:

BoneZ 04-06-2020 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by jchammond (Post 3921820)
Gonna make some breakfast & be rolling by 5 :driving:

Should be in Atlanta area by 9 easily :ugh2:

Bone-Daddy, may want to leave package outside house...as if things go well I’ll be by your place before lunchtime :tup:

I don't leave my package laying around just anywhere. Speaking of package, you forgot your nutsack in the van.

Spoiler 04-06-2020 11:31 AM

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Well seeing how this off topic thread headed over into religion already, we may as well just go into my views on politics today...

:rofl2:

Hotrodz 04-06-2020 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3921919)
I will never even pretend to have the patience of Job. That story is one of the reasons I will never understand religion :icon14:

Why the hell would God put a righteous man through all that bs just to prove a point to the Devil? What a děck!! :icon17:

Because the rain falls on the just and the non-just the same. They question is in all situations so what? What are you going to do, make the righteous decision or not because there are only choices and consequences.

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JLarson 04-06-2020 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Spoiler (Post 3921966)
Well seeing how this off topic thread headed over into religion already, we may as well just go into my views on politics today...

:rofl2:

Were we debating religion? I thought we were debating morality.

JARblue 04-06-2020 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by JLarson (Post 3921962)
I get your perspective. I don't personally agree with it and in fact, if the story is to be taken literally, I think it might be worth any loss to actually get a chance to question God; but I see your argument and think you raise a good point.

That's where arguing morality with a deity gets tricky though, right? A proponent of the way Job plays out could state "well God knew what was going to happen, and good came from out. Therefore, we argue from our limited perspectives, bound by time. In the context of the infinite, this was worthwhile."

An opponent could argue this is just splitting hairs, and something which causes any harm can never be justified.

Thanks for the discussion - time for me to get a coffee. :tiphat:

:tiphat:

I don't have any questions for God where the answer won't trigger a hundred more questions. As an infinitesimally small being in an infinitely large universe, that endeavor seems pointless. Chances are I wouldn't be able to understand the answer anyway. I've got other priorities in this lifetime than worrying about shět I have no control over.

All I want from my deity is a little consistency ;)

Zoren 370 04-06-2020 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by JLarson (Post 3921922)
The counterpoint is that God didn't put Job through that. Satan did. God merely withdrew his protection so it could happen. Whether or not that difference means anything to you is dependent on whether or not you think God is somehow obligated to protect people. The rabbit hole can go pretty deep in theology.

JL I see your a man of faith..but I just to put things in its proper perspective.
God did put Job to the test! God and Satan had a wager that Job will start cursing God once he (Satan) will inflict him with tremendous sickness, financial difficulties and you name it...Job even had a terrible infectious disease believed to be Leprosy at time which is considered no cure! ..

God said you can do anything to him but you promise me you would not kill him!

And the wager was set!!! We all know Job even sang praises to God despite all the tribulations he was inflicted upon. He did not once blame God for putting him to the test! We know how the story ended.

You see God dont look at your goodly deeds He looks at your heart! Just like how he used King David!

King David is the most sinful man in the bible but God exonerated him and made him King! Why?

That is why when we pray the Lords Prayer! We say thou shall not put us to the test but deliver us from evil! Amen.

Because we all know we all fall short of how Job’s heart towards God.
That is a fact!
But its possible!

Do you think God is doing a wager with Satan again this time of the Pandemic?
Only our faith could answer that!

Spoiler 04-06-2020 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by JLarson (Post 3921971)
Were we debating religion? I thought we were debating morality.

I’m not sure what was being mass-debated about this time... I only pay attention when its pork related...

:tup:

Hotrodz 04-06-2020 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3921930)
lol that's a completely different argument. If God is providing protection and then removes it for no reason, that's a děck move. Regardless of whether he was obligated.

Like giving a child a piece of candy only to take it away from them so you can watch them cry. I'm not obligated to give the kid candy, but once I do I've set precedence.

The gift is not of this world and God doesn't guarantee protection from evil or harm on earth!

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JARblue 04-06-2020 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3921976)
The gift is not of this world and God doesn't guarantee protection from evil or harm on earth!

I thought one of the gifts was this world. How could this world not be of this world? :confused: :icon17:

Spoiler 04-06-2020 11:46 AM

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Just heard from JC again, he is still making progress homeward...

bunk 04-06-2020 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by JLarson (Post 3921922)
The counterpoint is that God didn't put Job through that. Satan did. God merely withdrew his protection so it could happen. Whether or not that difference means anything to you is dependent on whether or not you think God is somehow obligated to protect people. The rabbit hole can go pretty deep in theology.

Yes. Satan stated that job is only righteous because of the things god give job for being so. Job thought that by appeasing god (as opposed to being WITH God), he received all the riches. God allowed satan to take away all of jobs blessings. That was the main theme of the book of job.

JLarson 04-06-2020 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Spoiler (Post 3921975)
I’m not sure what was being mass-debated about this time... I only pay attention when its pork related...

:tup:

Arguably, the entirety of Judaism is at least pork-adjacent given the views on diet!

abm89 04-06-2020 11:49 AM

I received my AccessPort today. We'll see how good this tune is.

abm89 04-06-2020 11:50 AM

Oh F, we're talking about religion in here now? At least we're keeping it clean eh?

bunk 04-06-2020 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Zoren 370 (Post 3921974)
JL I see your a man of faith..but I just to put things in its proper perspective.
God did put Job to the test! God and Satan had a wager that Job will start cursing God once he (Satan) will inflict him with tremendous sickness, financial difficulties and you name it...Job even had a terrible infectious disease believed to be Leprosy at time which is considered no cure! ..

God said you can do anything to him but you promise me you would not kill him!

And the wager was set!!! We all know Job even sang praises to God despite all the tribulations he was inflicted upon. He did not once blame God for putting him to the test! We know how the story ended.

You see God dont look at your goodly deeds He looks at your heart! Just like how he used King David!

King David is the most sinful man in the bible but God exonerated him and made him King! Why?

That is why when we pray the Lords Prayer! We say thou shall not put us to the test but deliver us from evil! Amen.

Because we all know we all fall short of how Job’s heart towards God.

Job did not sin from his lips.....

This shows that even though he didnt speak badly of God, his heart was was leaning the other way.


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