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Old 01-30-2019, 07:41 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Damn...............it's COLD outside!

4F with a wind chill of -12F.
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-6 here w/ wind chill of -25 ...... it's cold I get it ! All the local schools closed, I get it ... the local up scale mall closed,what ever ...... but now they canceled the mail
What do they do in Minneapolis or Bute Montana on a day like today ... I'll tell you what they do.... they dress for the weather and go about their business !!!
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-6 here w/ wind chill of -25 ...... it's cold I get it ! All the local schools closed, I get it ... the local up scale mall closed,what ever ...... but now they canceled the mail
What do they do in Minneapolis or Bute Montana on a day like today ... I'll tell you what they do.... they dress for the weather and go about their business !!!
This country is creating more and more snow flakes ( or just flakes ) who come up with every excuse to not do something instead of gritting your teeth, sucking it up and just getting it done
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The latest generation wants everything handed to them. They don't want to work for it.
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That's a pretty broad statement to make. Work ethic tends to be equal parts environment and background. We tend to meet whatever standard is necessary to survive - right now though, that tends to be a pretty low bar. The expectation that difficult situations be eliminated exists because for the most part, they have been.
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Unfortunately or fortunately, depending on your perspective, liability has made consigning people to potentially life threatening conditions a difficult decision.

Regulations, policy, and procedures typically exist because of tragic issues that have arisen in the past. Sometimes they are legitimately good, and sometimes they are purely CYA.
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Unfortunately or fortunately, depending on your perspective, liability has made consigning people to potentially life threatening conditions a difficult decision.



Regulations, policy, and procedures typically exist because of tragic issues that have arisen in the past. Sometimes they are legitimately good, and sometimes they are purely CYA.

I just don’t understand that way of thinking (not arguing the validity of your statement, just people that live their lives that way). I’m an engineer with seals in multiple states. Making critical decisions is part of my everyday life.
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I just don’t understand that way of thinking (not arguing the validity of your statement, just people that live their lives that way). I’m an engineer with seals in multiple states. Making critical decisions is part of my everyday life.
I think a lot really crept in when companies started making "Risk" a big portion of their mindset. As an engineer, I'm sure you're familiar with PFMEAs. If a big risk to your profitability is lawsuits stemming from (stupid) employees subjected to cold weather (which they can't be counted on to be bright enough do dress for), you eliminate or control work in the cold.

On the one hand, it works to reduce your exposure (double joke, very high degree of difficulty) and on the other hand it accustoms your personnel to only working in controlled conditions. When conditions are uncontrolled, they feel entitled and react poorly, and the attitude and mindset spreads. Now multiply that across every industry and every condition, and you've got a large number of people who feel outraged when conditions are anything less than ideal.

Are they snowflakes for it? Sure. But if that's the case, that term is a potentially transitory state of being. Put the same people with a hardened group of people like Baron and Rusty, working in terrible winter conditions outdoor to survive, and you'll find that a fair number step up (eventually), especially if dying is the alternative.

Our so-called greatest generation existed both because conditions and mindset were right, not just because of some genetic predisposition to greatness. Raise genetic clones of those people today, and they'd probably turn out a lot like today's people. Only potential exception is where BPA has reduced testosterone in more recent generations I'm sure that does play a part in mindset.
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Man. I see a lot of complaining in here for what's a normal occurrence here for me. Bring in the frostbite!
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Man. I see a lot of complaining in here for what's a normal occurrence here for me. Bring in the frostbite!
The last 2 weeks of January and the first 2 weeks of February is the coldest here. What we have so far is mild. The Mon river doesn't have any ice on it yet. When the river gets ice on it. Then it's cold.
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