Fighting my Speeding Ticket

EZT · 05-21-2015, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by dP3NGU1N

Because speeding tickets are no longer about driver safety and more about revenue generation for municipalities. It's literally a legal form of extortion these days.

While I do agree with your statement, OP grossly exceeded his number of fair warnings it seems.

SouthArk370Z · 05-21-2015, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by EZT

While I do agree with your statement, OP grossly exceeded his number of fair warnings it seems.

While I do agree with your statement, it kinda depends on how old OP is - if he's a Senior Citizen, that's only one every five years.

But, yeah, sounds like OP has an uncontrollable lead foot.

Jordo! · 05-22-2015, 05:49 AM

Hmm. I'd say just from the available empirical data at the links, its a mixed bag of findings. The 24 hr experimental change, for example, is hard to interpret because there are likely well established norms for driving the roads selected for the study that held greater sway than any unexpected changes in postings.

I do agree that much of enforcement is aimed at revenue generation and that frequently speed limits are set somewhat arbitrarily.

I've often thought there should be floating limits that vary according to time of day, traffic flow etc, all of which can be easily tracked now. If a road has five cars on it, bump up the limit 10 - 15 mph.

We actually already do this for "school zones" during school hrs, so why not for all major thoroughfares?

Davey · 05-22-2015, 06:00 AM

I do agree speed limits are too low on a lot of roads. Our loop here is 55 mph... it's 5 lanes wide in places and deserted as a ghost town at 8 PM on a weekday usually. Typical speed is 70 MPH when there is moderate traffic.

Last weekend coming back from TN through KY (saw a bunch of Z's cruising together) it seems the typical speed was 85 in a 70 mph zone.

IMO, it's not so much the speed that's a problem as it is the consistency. You can have a bunch of people going 80 mph on a straight road with 5 lanes, but throw a few Grandmas going 54 mph and you get a lot of crazy swerving and lane-changing and that's where you get much higher potential for accidents.

FPenvy · 05-22-2015, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Bshields22

Preach it brotha!

15 mph over.....$500. They can go Fvck themselves lol

last year I was doing 93 in a 55 and the cop stopped me to talk about my car.

couple weeks ago 58 in a 35. got a warning and had a car discussion for 20 minutes.

I think you're doing it wrong lol

Bshields22 · 05-22-2015, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

last year I was doing 93 in a 55 and the cop stopped me to talk about my car.

couple weeks ago 58 in a 35. got a warning and had a car discussion for 20 minutes.

I think you're doing it wrong lol

How does that happen!!!??? I witnessed my wife get out of a speeding ticket in her car...she cried and gave this heartfelt story about how we are racing to tell her parents we are engaged, which was like 2 years prior i proposed lol.

Chuck33079 · 05-22-2015, 01:07 PM

I rarely get tickets, and it's not for lack of trying.

When you get pulled over, pull over quickly. Engine off. Windows down. Keys on dash, hands on wheel. I don't reach for ANYTHING until he's at my window and I explain what I'm reaching for and then I do it SLOWLY. 9 out of 10 times, I get a warning.

For that 10th time, I get a lawyer. Because I have a good traffic attorney, my insurance company has no record of any ticket more recent than 1999.

FPenvy · 05-22-2015, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Bshields22

How does that happen!!!??? I witnessed my wife get out of a speeding ticket in her car...she cried and gave this heartfelt story about how we are racing to tell her parents we are engaged, which was like 2 years prior i proposed lol.

maybe a little luck mixed with charm and knowing how to talk to cops.

for the 2 times I went to court for speeding I represented myself and won both

Chuck33079 · 05-22-2015, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

knowing how to talk to cops.

It's amazing how far you get talking to them respectfully like normal people and going out of their way to make them feel more comfortable goes.

FPenvy · 05-22-2015, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

It's amazing how far you get talking to them respectfully like normal people and going out of their way to make them feel more comfortable goes.

oh yea. my father is friends with many cops through his job so I grew up around them and knowing the best ways to approach situations with them.

I will say I had not one but two times a while back that was iffy though because I was being funny lol some cops don't have great senses of humor.

but both ended up being just fine. I go with less jokes until I feel out if they are the uptight cop or the normal ones

JARblue · 05-22-2015, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

It's amazing how far you get talking to them respectfully like normal people and going out of their way to make them feel more comfortable goes.

Ding Ding Ding Ding! We have a winner!

I've been completely in the wrong going nearly 20 mph over and gotten only a warning after a very pleasant conversation with the officer. Another time, the guy gave me a warning after I argued very politely that while I did, in fact, redline 1st and 2nd gear, I did not exceed the speed limit

FPenvy · 05-22-2015, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

Ding Ding Ding Ding! We have a winner!

I've been completely in the wrong going nearly 20 mph over and gotten only a warning after a very pleasant conversation with the officer. Another time, the guy gave me a warning after I argued very politely that while I did, in fact, redline 1st and 2nd gear, I did not exceed the speed limit

that's because your car is slow

JARblue · 05-22-2015, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

that's because your car is slow

At least it's not an AT

Actually I was very proud of that particular 1-2 shift. Too bad the officer wasn't really interested

FPenvy · 05-22-2015, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

At least it's not an AT

Actually I was very proud of that particular 1-2 shift. Too bad the officer wasn't really interested

haha well done.

yea my big stops in the Z I was fortunate they were car guys. the 93 in 55 the guy saw the chalk numbers on the window and was asking about what my ET and trap was. I knew at this point I was golden. end of the conversation he looked at his watch and said "pens game is almost on. get home quick so you don't miss any"

Bshields22 · 05-22-2015, 01:39 PM

I think my best story was I was going 94 in a 65 on my way to Vegas. I guess a plane clocked me. When that happens they radio down to a patrol car like 10 miles down the road to wait for you. Office comes up to my passenger window and my smart *** friend was with me, Cops asks, "you know why i pulled you over?" smart *** friend decides to quote Liar Liar and says, "depends how long you were following us" lol. Cop thought it was funny then began explain how i got clocked.

Showed up to court with only a hope and a prayer as my defense. In this situation the officer in the plane AND the Hwy Patrol officer need to be there together. Only the plane cop was....case dismissed... BOOM!

Good times... lol

05-22-2015, 05:49 AM	#18 (permalink)
Jordo! A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: nirvana Posts: 6,394 Drives: 2023 NATM Rep Power: 417	Hmm. I'd say just from the available empirical data at the links, its a mixed bag of findings. The 24 hr experimental change, for example, is hard to interpret because there are likely well established norms for driving the roads selected for the study that held greater sway than any unexpected changes in postings. I do agree that much of enforcement is aimed at revenue generation and that frequently speed limits are set somewhat arbitrarily. I've often thought there should be floating limits that vary according to time of day, traffic flow etc, all of which can be easily tracked now. If a road has five cars on it, bump up the limit 10 - 15 mph. We actually already do this for "school zones" during school hrs, so why not for all major thoroughfares? __________________ Enjoy it. Destroy it.

05-22-2015, 06:00 AM	#19 (permalink)
Davey A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Indiana Posts: 3,766 Drives: '15 NISMO 6MT Rep Power: 117171	I do agree speed limits are too low on a lot of roads. Our loop here is 55 mph... it's 5 lanes wide in places and deserted as a ghost town at 8 PM on a weekday usually. Typical speed is 70 MPH when there is moderate traffic. Last weekend coming back from TN through KY (saw a bunch of Z's cruising together) it seems the typical speed was 85 in a 70 mph zone. IMO, it's not so much the speed that's a problem as it is the consistency. You can have a bunch of people going 80 mph on a straight road with 5 lanes, but throw a few Grandmas going 54 mph and you get a lot of crazy swerving and lane-changing and that's where you get much higher potential for accidents. Jordo! likes this.

05-22-2015, 01:07 PM	#22 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29538	I rarely get tickets, and it's not for lack of trying. When you get pulled over, pull over quickly. Engine off. Windows down. Keys on dash, hands on wheel. I don't reach for ANYTHING until he's at my window and I explain what I'm reaching for and then I do it SLOWLY. 9 out of 10 times, I get a warning. For that 10th time, I get a lawyer. Because I have a good traffic attorney, my insurance company has no record of any ticket more recent than 1999. JARblue, FPenvy and falicfr like this. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

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05-22-2015, 01:39 PM	#30 (permalink)
Bshields22 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Anaheim, CA Posts: 422 Drives: 2012 Black 370Z-R Rep Power: 697	I think my best story was I was going 94 in a 65 on my way to Vegas. I guess a plane clocked me. When that happens they radio down to a patrol car like 10 miles down the road to wait for you. Office comes up to my passenger window and my smart * friend was with me, Cops asks, "you know why i pulled you over?" smart * friend decides to quote Liar Liar and says, "depends how long you were following us" lol. Cop thought it was funny then began explain how i got clocked. Showed up to court with only a hope and a prayer as my defense. In this situation the officer in the plane AND the Hwy Patrol officer need to be there together. Only the plane cop was....case dismissed... BOOM! Good times... lol