Z1 smooth tubes worth it?

ImportConvert · 03-01-2012, 07:13 PM

Is it worth it to try to cram 10 pounds of crap in the 3 pound bag that is the distance between the airbox and the TB? How the F*CK does this part even fit? No room.

F.I. Inc. · 03-01-2012, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Is it worth it to try to cram 10 pounds of crap in the 3 pound bag that is the distance between the airbox and the TB? How the F*CK does this part even fit? No room.

I am assuming that you are referring to the Z1 silicone post Maf tubes! I have never seen a set myself in person but the concept is real simple and makes sense. By ditching the slinky style stock post Maf tube and going to a smooth tube you will decrease air turbulence. Anytime you can do this you will increase velocity. Now in the case of this car in N/A form the gains would be very minimal. Personally I would need to see a dyno chart comparison to believe there would be any gains.

However, if it was my car, for the minimal cost, I would probably invest the money in them for peace of mind!

Thanks, Tony

WhiskeyHotel · 03-01-2012, 09:39 PM

Been there, done that. They were worth it to me. I'm not sure about the HP gains

Jordo! · 03-01-2012, 10:09 PM

For the money, yes.

That + K&N (or other high flow panel filters) gets you within 5 +2 whp or so of the pricier G3's.

Some wrestling is required, but it will all fit.

ImportConvert · 03-01-2012, 10:33 PM

Okay, now that it's installed, it's worth it. I don't know if it gave me anything, but it looks nice and in theory it gave me something. It was hell installing.

WhiskeyHotel · 03-02-2012, 08:27 AM

It is a bit tricky. I pulled the stock airboxs out and removed the strut brace to get more room.

BigT · 03-02-2012, 08:32 AM

I have mishimoto MAF tubes and k&n drop-ins. I isntalled them together. I def. feel gains in 1st, 2nd, and 3rd, but not as much in 4th to 6th. Then again, with only 800 miles on my car, I limit how many times I go WOT to redline.

scottIN · 03-14-2012, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiskeyHotel

It is a bit tricky. I pulled the stock airboxs out and removed the strut brace to get more room.

I did this and STILL couldn't get them in! They don't even seem close to me. If I attached them to the airbox and tried to slip it back in, the duct on it was a good 1/2" from clearing the front fascia. Any ideas or tips? I wrestled with one for an hour before giving up. Here's a photo. I don't see how it could ever fit.

tranceformer · 03-14-2012, 07:20 PM

IMO, they're worth it. I bought hoping they would add a little HP on the topend of the powerband (which helps a ton if you raise your revlimiter).

No dyno result but I do have some track results:
I gained a little more than 1mph in the 1/4 mile after adding 2-piece front rotors and post MAF tubes. This was in similar temperatures/DA on the same track, several runs for each night.

Which mod made the most difference? who knows.

cdoxp800 · 03-14-2012, 07:37 PM

I did dyno comparison and I saw Zero gains over stock using the K&N filters and post Maf tubes.

Maybe others have had better luck then I did with this setup.

LakeShow · 03-15-2012, 01:15 AM

I think it's something you feel as the responsiveness of the car rather than numbers on paper or computer.

ImportConvert · 03-15-2012, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by scottIN

I did this and STILL couldn't get them in! They don't even seem close to me. If I attached them to the airbox and tried to slip it back in, the duct on it was a good 1/2" from clearing the front fascia. Any ideas or tips? I wrestled with one for an hour before giving up. Here's a photo. I don't see how it could ever fit.

I got mine installed. I removed the air-boxes and attached them first to the TB, then got sex nuts and retard strong on it. I forced it to work. Then re-installed the air-boxes. (I kept them CLOSE to in location while attaching).

ImportConvert · 03-15-2012, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by cdoxp800

I did dyno comparison and I saw Zero gains over stock using the K&N filters and post Maf tubes.

Maybe others have had better luck then I did with this setup.

Other mods to the car? Dyno chart please?

XwChriswX · 03-15-2012, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by cdoxp800

I did dyno comparison and I saw Zero gains over stock using the K&N filters and post Maf tubes.

Maybe others have had better luck then I did with this setup.

Did you remove the negative battery terminal and reset the ECU? Or get a tune afterwards?

ImportConvert · 03-15-2012, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX

Did you remove the negative battery terminal and reset the ECU? Or get a tune afterwards?

The ECU bases WOT response on closed loop look-up tables + MAF input in every other car I have owned. This wouldn't effect that.

Even if it did, after a certain number of key on/off engine on/off cycles, it should adapt, no?

03-01-2012, 07:13 PM	#1 (permalink)
ImportConvert A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: SWMO Posts: 4,454 Drives: 2019 CX5 GT Reserve Rep Power: 7626	Z1 smooth tubes worth it? Is it worth it to try to cram 10 pounds of crap in the 3 pound bag that is the distance between the airbox and the TB? How the F*CK does this part even fit? No room.

03-01-2012, 10:09 PM	#4 (permalink)
Jordo! A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: nirvana Posts: 6,394 Drives: 2023 NATM Rep Power: 418	For the money, yes. That + K&N (or other high flow panel filters) gets you within 5 +2 whp or so of the pricier G3's. Some wrestling is required, but it will all fit. __________________ Enjoy it. Destroy it.

03-14-2012, 07:20 PM	#9 (permalink)
tranceformer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Palm Beach, FL Posts: 1,213 Drives: 2009 370Z PW 6MT Rep Power: 267	IMO, they're worth it. I bought hoping they would add a little HP on the topend of the powerband (which helps a ton if you raise your revlimiter). No dyno result but I do have some track results: I gained a little more than 1mph in the 1/4 mile after adding 2-piece front rotors and post MAF tubes. This was in similar temperatures/DA on the same track, several runs for each night. Which mod made the most difference? who knows. __________________ Ray 2009 370Z Base Sport 6MT / 12.860 @ 109.09mph / 1.921 60ft / street tires official 1/4 mile track times

03-14-2012, 07:37 PM	#10 (permalink)
cdoxp800 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: FL Posts: 1,337 Drives: 2011 Nismo Rep Power: 19	I did dyno comparison and I saw Zero gains over stock using the K&N filters and post Maf tubes. Maybe others have had better luck then I did with this setup. __________________ 2011 Brilliant Silver NISMO 370z. #: 0046. PPE LTH \| MillSpec Cats \| F.I Exhaust \| Akuma Intakes \| Rotora 6/4 Brakes

03-15-2012, 01:15 AM	#11 (permalink)
LakeShow A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: L.I., NY Posts: 5,307 Drives: Everything Rep Power: 25	I think it's something you feel as the responsiveness of the car rather than numbers on paper or computer. __________________ \|2013 Audi S4\|Ibis White/Black\|S-Tronic P+\| \|2013 370z\|PearlWhite/Persimmon\|Touring/Sport/Nav\|F.I. CBE 18" CF\| \|Sold\|2011 370z\|Gun Metallic\|Touring/Sport/Nav\|

03-01-2012, 09:39 PM	#3 (permalink)
WhiskeyHotel Track Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 530 Drives: 2015 GT-R PW Premium Rep Power: 16	Been there, done that. They were worth it to me. I'm not sure about the HP gains

03-01-2012, 10:33 PM	#5 (permalink)
ImportConvert A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: SWMO Posts: 4,454 Drives: 2019 CX5 GT Reserve Rep Power: 7626	Okay, now that it's installed, it's worth it. I don't know if it gave me anything, but it looks nice and in theory it gave me something. It was hell installing.

03-02-2012, 08:27 AM	#6 (permalink)
WhiskeyHotel Track Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 530 Drives: 2015 GT-R PW Premium Rep Power: 16	It is a bit tricky. I pulled the stock airboxs out and removed the strut brace to get more room.

03-02-2012, 08:32 AM	#7 (permalink)
BigT Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: NJ Posts: 469 Drives: 98 2g DSM Rep Power: 13	I have mishimoto MAF tubes and k&n drop-ins. I isntalled them together. I def. feel gains in 1st, 2nd, and 3rd, but not as much in 4th to 6th. Then again, with only 800 miles on my car, I limit how many times I go WOT to redline.

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