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Old 06-07-2013, 11:13 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Some of us prefer high quality parts. My car is my daily driver. It has to function properly. Buy crap and you get crap results. Buy quality and you get quality results. Add in things like warranties and it becomes an even better deal.

How can you have a sports car and not put quality parts on it? Oh and not everybody knows people who weld.
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SA has a point, you can't put low quality parts on cars and expect to get much out of them. I'm not saying price will depict the quality on a part. Just that if you put an exhaust part that will probably give out if you scrape and what not it'll suck to have spent that much money for nothing. No disrespect to top speed but I've seen the fitment for their exhausts and the tips stick out tremendously and that was kinda a deal breaker for me. I ended up going with the ark dts exhaust. I'm hoping to install it tomorrow. The exhaust was over 1k but hey it's well worth it. Good quality exhaust, has warranty, awesome welds, they clean the welds within the pipes to ensure good air flow, and not to mention the sound. Just make sure you make the right decision bud. It sucks to buy something for $300-$400 then later down the road think "I want something better but I already wasted $300-$400". Good luck
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SA has a point, you can't put low quality parts on cars and expect to get much out of them. I'm not saying price will depict the quality on a part. Just that if you put an exhaust part that will probably give out if you scrape and what not it'll suck to have spent that much money for nothing. No disrespect to top speed but I've seen the fitment for their exhausts and the tips stick out tremendously and that was kinda a deal breaker for me. I ended up going with the ark dts exhaust. I'm hoping to install it tomorrow. The exhaust was over 1k but hey it's well worth it. Good quality exhaust, has warranty, awesome welds, they clean the welds within the pipes to ensure good air flow, and not to mention the sound. Just make sure you make the right decision bud. It sucks to buy something for $300-$400 then later down the road think "I want something better but I already wasted $300-$400". Good luck
You realize the tips stick out because they don't want the bumper to turn black/yellow right? Ever had a white car with flush or near flush mounted tips? Lol have fun cleaning. It sucks *** cause it will always stain slight yellow. O and you must polish it off. Soap and water don't touch the stains.



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Some of us prefer high quality parts. My car is my daily driver. It has to function properly. Buy crap and you get crap results. Buy quality and you get quality results. Add in things like warranties and it becomes an even better deal.

How can you have a sports car and not put quality parts on it? Oh and not everybody knows people who weld.
So if I send you two pipes of 304SS you can tell me which ones crap? How? I've seen many top brand exhausts. NONE!! of them stand up to my expectations but maybe FI since they sand the inside pipe down to flow match. But guess what?? I have a sander also Perrin Performance doesn't need to sand down the inside to flow match because their flanges start out CNC'd to be OD then 3/4 down is bored out to be ID. No need to sand because they are smart enough to do it right from the get go.

And like I said, FI use Vibrant resonators and probably similar mufflers. Vibrant for all I know is made in China or Taiwan. If they're not and US made (which i really dont care who makes stuff as long as its made well) ill spend the $128 I did on two 18"s and slap them puppies on.
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So if I send you two pipes of 304SS you can tell me which ones crap? How? I've seen many top brand exhausts. NONE!! of them stand up to my expectations but maybe FI since they sand the inside pipe down to flow match. But guess what?? I have a sander also Perrin Performance doesn't need to sand down the inside to flow match because their flanges start out CNC'd to be OD then 3/4 down is bored out to be ID. No need to sand because they are smart enough to do it right from the get go.

And like I said, FI use Vibrant resonators and probably similar mufflers. Vibrant for all I know is made in China or Taiwan. If they're not and US made (which i really dont care who makes stuff as long as its made well) ill spend the $128 I did on two 18"s and slap them puppies on.
Thats great for you that you can do that. Not everybody ( very very few actually ) have those capabilites and skills needed to perform that type of work. You need to quit focusing on what you can do and realise that the majority of people cannot do those things and therefore we choose to pay for quality. I could spout off a ton of stuff about what I do and have done as far as jobs in the AF go and stump 99.9% of people and they could do the same to me. The same applies to vehicles and who has the necessary skills and experience to perform that type of work.
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Thats great for you that you can do that. Not everybody ( very very few actually ) have those capabilites and skills needed to perform that type of work. You need to quit focusing on what you can do and realise that the majority of people cannot do those things and therefore we choose to pay for quality. I could spout off a ton of stuff about what I do and have done as far as jobs in the AF go and stump 99.9% of people and they could do the same to me. The same applies to vehicles and who has the necessary skills and experience to perform that type of work.
I wasn't meaning to come across as it would be just me. As stated above by you guys a muffler shop can slap those puppies on for $20-40 for 30min of work. Back in the day I've had it done before. Takes an hour or so to bend and weld. It's not hard and not as expensive as a companies CBE is all. You can save easy 2/3rds the cost. Or spend about the same on eBay and maybe no more than $50 if something needs adjusted in the fitment or a weld reinforced. In the end the Chinese 304SS quality will be the same as anyone else's 304SS but will be hundreds of dollars less which to me doesn't make the eBay stuff junk is all.
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I wasn't meaning to come across as it would be just me. As stated above by you guys a muffler shop can slap those puppies on for $20-40 for 30min of work. Back in the day I've had it done before. Takes an hour or so to bend and weld. It's not hard and not as expensive as a companies CBE is all. You can save easy 2/3rds the cost. Or spend about the same on eBay and maybe no more than $50 if something needs adjusted in the fitment or a weld reinforced. In the end the Chinese 304SS quality will be the same as anyone else's 304SS but will be hundreds of dollars less which to me doesn't make the eBay stuff junk is all.
I got ya bud. Just came off wrong with the brand bashing on the first page of the thread. Info is great! I use this site a ton. Just brand bashing isn't cool.
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I got ya bud. Just came off wrong with the brand bashing on the first page of the thread. Info is great! I use this site a ton. Just brand bashing isn't cool.
Well I don't know what to call it then. If someone doesn't know the 3 different ways a pipe can be welded to a flange, I think the lesser ways need called out and its a crapy way to do something in my opinion. I'm only trying to get my info out there so people make the best choice. I mean back in the day we used muzzle loaders. Now we have center fire cartridges. Both will kill you, ones just a better way of doing it. If I bash or call someone out on doing it old school then we all win if they change their design
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