Hey Z1. ETA on those headers?

Joepro · 08-25-2013, 11:30 AM

My graph is on page 23 of this thread, I did 322 whp and 272 tq(yest I rounded up) With the headers as stated before I was expecting 330, because the average non header z tunes in at around 315 as an average from what I have read on th forums. Vince(the tuner) told me they only see higher hp on cars with long tube headers, but my TQ was identical to the Z they pulled 341 whp out of and 272 tq, BUT that Z did not have the M370 which has been said over and over again to lose peak hp and gain tq. Also we do not know the temp when that Z was dynoed, they posted the video on august 1st, the temps were in the high 70's then, and it was raining almost all day when I dynoed- they like to tune in the morning, I was scheduled at 9 but was late due to the colossal rain store and Vince got tied up with and other car, he did not do the final pull till after 1 and it was up in the 80s at that point. If I ditch the M370 and re dyno and achieve 330 or higher, this proves the headers help. also we need some comparisons, who has some non header z graphs that are up rev tuned?

here is mine again:

brucelidat · 08-25-2013, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Joepro

My graph is on page 23 of this thread, I did 322 whp and 272 tq(yest I rounded up) With the headers as stated before I was expecting 330, because the average non header z tunes in at around 315 as an average from what I have read on th forums. Vince(the tuner) told me they only see higher hp on cars with long tube headers, but my TQ was identical to the Z they pulled 341 whp out of and 272 tq, BUT that Z did not have the M370 which has been said over and over again to lose peak hp and gain tq. Also we do not know the temp when that Z was dynoed, they posted the video on august 1st, the temps were in the high 70's then, and it was raining almost all day when I dynoed- they like to tune in the morning, I was scheduled at 9 but was late due to the colossal rain store and Vince got tied up with and other car, he did not do the final pull till after 1 and it was up in the 80s at that point. If I ditch the M370 and re dyno and achieve 330 or higher, this proves the headers help. also we need some comparisons, who has some non header z graphs that are up rev tuned?

here is mine again:

So you had all your mods already installed (with no tune) except the headers for your baseline?

chuckie311 · 08-25-2013, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Joepro

My graph is on page 23 of this thread, I did 322 whp and 272 tq(yest I rounded up) With the headers as stated before I was expecting 330, because the average non header z tunes in at around 315 as an average from what I have read on th forums. Vince(the tuner) told me they only see higher hp on cars with long tube headers, but my TQ was identical to the Z they pulled 341 whp out of and 272 tq, BUT that Z did not have the M370 which has been said over and over again to lose peak hp and gain tq. Also we do not know the temp when that Z was dynoed, they posted the video on august 1st, the temps were in the high 70's then, and it was raining almost all day when I dynoed- they like to tune in the morning, I was scheduled at 9 but was late due to the colossal rain store and Vince got tied up with and other car, he did not do the final pull till after 1 and it was up in the 80s at that point. If I ditch the M370 and re dyno and achieve 330 or higher, this proves the headers help. also we need some comparisons, who has some non header z graphs that are up rev tuned?

here is mine again:

I beg to differ on the M370 saying you lose peak HP here is my dyno just after installing the M370

DEpointfive0 · 08-25-2013, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by chuckie311

I beg to differ on the M370 saying you lose peak HP here is my dyno just after installing the M370

It seems to be hit and miss, I lost 2-4WHP, but gained a LOT midrange. Mike said there was ZERO difference throughout the power band (hard to believe) and some people say they lose 7+ WHP, which is also hard to believe too

Joepro · 08-25-2013, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

It seems to be hit and miss, I lost 2-4WHP, but gained a LOT midrange. Mike said there was ZERO difference throughout the power band (hard to believe) and some people say they lose 7+ WHP, which is also hard to believe too

This is generally what I have heard around the forums, but I will tell you probably in October, Im gonna pull it just as an experiment, but it is definitely going back on, there is no doubt the mid range is there. that is a good comparison graph tho, what mods are on your car chuckie? we can see different points where the power is different, also any idea on weather conditions? I assume that car was tuned, I believe a tune brings back the loss but the question is does it affect the top end power still or not...

brucelidat · 08-25-2013, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by chuckie311

I beg to differ on the M370 saying you lose peak HP here is my dyno just after installing the M370

Chuck, what mods did you have prior to the m370?

08-25-2013, 11:30 AM	#1 (permalink)
Joepro A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Athens ohio Posts: 1,213 Drives: Company car Rep Power: 35	My graph is on page 23 of this thread, I did 322 whp and 272 tq(yest I rounded up) With the headers as stated before I was expecting 330, because the average non header z tunes in at around 315 as an average from what I have read on th forums. Vince(the tuner) told me they only see higher hp on cars with long tube headers, but my TQ was identical to the Z they pulled 341 whp out of and 272 tq, BUT that Z did not have the M370 which has been said over and over again to lose peak hp and gain tq. Also we do not know the temp when that Z was dynoed, they posted the video on august 1st, the temps were in the high 70's then, and it was raining almost all day when I dynoed- they like to tune in the morning, I was scheduled at 9 but was late due to the colossal rain store and Vince got tied up with and other car, he did not do the final pull till after 1 and it was up in the 80s at that point. If I ditch the M370 and re dyno and achieve 330 or higher, this proves the headers help. also we need some comparisons, who has some non header z graphs that are up rev tuned? here is mine again: __________________ Swift\|Koni\|SPC\| FI CBE\|Z1\|Stillen\|Sbend\|Zspeed\|R/T Tuned\|523 whp\|458 tq\|10.5 psi\|SOLD Joepro's Journal\|Joepro's Boosted Performance Build \|Pittsburgh-Western-Pa-Ohio-Wv-Group

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