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I just purchased z1 headers and HFC's. And I'm currently running G3's and MXP True Dual exhaust. I plan on getting the car tuned, no doubt. My question is...would it

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Old 08-08-2013, 12:01 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I just purchased z1 headers and HFC's. And I'm currently running G3's and MXP True Dual exhaust. I plan on getting the car tuned, no doubt. My question is...would it be ok to drive the car after the installation. Or should I get it installed at the tuner shop?
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Old 08-08-2013, 12:09 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I just purchased z1 headers and HFC's. And I'm currently running G3's and MXP True Dual exhaust. I plan on getting the car tuned, no doubt. My question is...would it be ok to drive the car after the installation. Or should I get it installed at the tuner shop?
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I have Gen 3 CAI, FI Exhaust and LTH and have never had a tune done. I never realized I could be harming the car?
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It is more likely that you are running really rich (and down on power) but it's tough to say without data.
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I always realized I could get more out of my mods with a tune, just never thought I could be doing long term damage to the car?
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I always realized I could get more out of my mods with a tune, just never thought I could be doing long term damage to the car?
Without some datalogging or dyno pulls to check the Air/Fuel ratio its impossible to say.. but whether you're running rich or lean neither is good for the engine
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Are there any symptoms to running too lean? Car seems to drive fine...
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Hey can anyone explain to me why cant I get over 300 whp with an uprev tune on my 2013 370z and the set up I have - want to stay N/A

Stillen G3 CAI, Berk test pipes, Stillen CBE

Am I missing something ??
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Hey can anyone explain to me why cant I get over 300 whp with an uprev tune on my 2013 370z and the set up I have - want to stay N/A

Stillen G3 CAI, Berk test pipes, Stillen CBE

Am I missing something ??
Interested to know why also, as these were the only mods that i had planned for my '13 too.What are your numbers right now?

FYI, stock i got 270whp and 220tq on a mustang dyno.
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Interested to know why also, as these were the only mods that i had planned for my '13 too.What are your numbers right now?

FYI, stock i got 270whp and 220tq on a mustang dyno.
Thats just it tried to put it on the dyno put it didnt take the UpRev tune program on to the ECU but they did get one read 285 whp I feel thats a lil low! I've been doing a lil research and on a N/A 2013 370z with the same mods they were getting 300+ whp
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Hey can anyone explain to me why cant I get over 300 whp with an uprev tune on my 2013 370z and the set up I have - want to stay N/A

Stillen G3 CAI, Berk test pipes, Stillen CBE

Am I missing something ??
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Hey can anyone explain to me why cant I get over 300 whp with an uprev tune on my 2013 370z and the set up I have - want to stay N/A

Stillen G3 CAI, Berk test pipes, Stillen CBE

Am I missing something ??
What was your baseline? You really need to look at the change before and after mods, not just the peak number.
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What was your baseline? You really need to look at the change before and after mods, not just the peak number.
Yeah didnt run it before the mods, and when we tried to do the UpRev tune the program didn't take
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Yeah didnt run it before the mods, and when we tried to do the UpRev tune the program didn't take
What do you mean it didn't take? What does a stock 370 put down on that dyno? You might be on a low reading dyno.
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