Stillen g3 intake

NewlyIMPORTed · 06-06-2009, 03:34 PM

so i decided to bite the bullet and buy the ultra long tube intake for my 370 with my graduation money. well i was a little upset that i just compulsively went to forged and ordered it. so i get it back and after the bogging from the ecu reseting i didn't really notice a change. well i drove it the next day and i def noticed the change it took a day to break in but the torque and sound diff. is huge. so i thought i would share my experience for those contemplating the idea. well worth the the 549 without install. and thanks to forged for helping me out.

Josh@STILLEN · 06-06-2009, 04:02 PM

Even on the dyno it requires a good 7-8 full runs to get the ECU adapted to the intake, so additional driving would have that same reaction.

Does need a little time with the ECU to get to full potential. I'm glad you're enjoying the extra HP.. sound is killer right around 5500rpm's isn't it?

NewlyIMPORTed · 06-06-2009, 04:11 PM

yeah like at first i didnt notice anything and then out of the blue my car was totally different i never would have expected this much from an intake but Stillen really did an awesome job with this and i plan on using Stillen for all my modifications to come.

CBRich · 06-06-2009, 10:22 PM

So Josh, with all that 370zdotcom said about fresh air really helping these intakes is there a possibility that you guys may present some sort of vent kit for the front bumper in the future? Or do you have suggestions on this?

Josh@STILLEN · 06-06-2009, 10:42 PM

The dyno results that have come out of technosquare are definitely different from results we've seen, and by the numerous others on this site, so it's hard for me to speak directly regarding that article.

Fresh air is fresh air, and obviously the cooler the air the increased benefit for an air intake system.

We rely on testing to determine results, and we have not tested the benefits directly relating the air intake and vented bumpers. There is a good chance we would not develop this type of product, and here is the reasoning:

1. We could develop a urethane piece that would work great by altering the factory fascia, requiring cutting and altering.. but for a lot of people, making such a significant change to their factory fascia would be a turnoff, and would require at least some proficiency of a body/paint shop to make sure cutting and installation were successful.

2. We could design a complete fascia with built in air passages for this reason, but a complete fascia brings the price way up, and the rest of the design would need to be one that was popular. Creating a urethane mold is an extremely expensive process, but one that nets the highest quality part, and volume sold is the only thing to bring that balance back.

Anything is possible, and we're open to what you the owners are looking for..

CBRich · 06-06-2009, 11:12 PM

Mines seems to have the perfect idea but $$$

NewlyIMPORTed · 06-06-2009, 11:14 PM

how much do those mines pieces cost?

>135I · 06-07-2009, 12:05 AM

I want to say something around $500

semtex · 06-07-2009, 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh@STILLEN

The dyno results that have come out of technosquare are definitely different from results we've seen, and by the numerous others on this site, so it's hard for me to speak directly regarding that article.

Fresh air is fresh air, and obviously the cooler the air the increased benefit for an air intake system.

We rely on testing to determine results, and we have not tested the benefits directly relating the air intake and vented bumpers. There is a good chance we would not develop this type of product, and here is the reasoning:

1. We could develop a urethane piece that would work great by altering the factory fascia, requiring cutting and altering.. but for a lot of people, making such a significant change to their factory fascia would be a turnoff, and would require at least some proficiency of a body/paint shop to make sure cutting and installation were successful.

2. We could design a complete fascia with built in air passages for this reason, but a complete fascia brings the price way up, and the rest of the design would need to be one that was popular. Creating a urethane mold is an extremely expensive process, but one that nets the highest quality part, and volume sold is the only thing to bring that balance back.

Anything is possible, and we're open to what you the owners are looking for..

Josh, here's my suggestion. Make a kit that takes advantage of those little panels next to the 'fangs'. Those panels can be removed. So make little urethane pieces that bolt into those slots with an exact fit, then make some sort of tubing that attaches to the back of the pieces and directs the air right at the filters of the G3. I'll be happy to do independent testing for you. (I know, big surprise, right?) The nice thing about this idea is that there's no need to cut into the fascia, no need for new fascia, doesn't spoil the look of the stock fascia, etc., etc. And I bet it'd be relatively inexpensive too.

Josh@STILLEN · 06-07-2009, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by semtex

Josh, here's my suggestion. Make a kit that takes advantage of those little panels next to the 'fangs'. Those panels can be removed. So make little urethane pieces that bolt into those slots with an exact fit, then make some sort of tubing that attaches to the back of the pieces and directs the air right at the filters of the G3. I'll be happy to do independent testing for you. (I know, big surprise, right?) The nice thing about this idea is that there's no need to cut into the fascia, no need for new fascia, doesn't spoil the look of the stock fascia, etc., etc. And I bet it'd be relatively inexpensive too.

I'd be happy to bring this up in next new products meeting.. thanks for the suggestion..

wstar · 06-08-2009, 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewlyIMPORTed

how much do those mines pieces cost?

Quote:

Originally Posted by >135I

I want to say something around $500

From what I was able to Google up, the Mine's air scoops are going to cost us about $1K, which seems silly for two tiny little ducts.

I'm all for a cheaper solution that uses the fangs, although others are also looking at using those same holes for front brake ducting too.

drisko · 06-08-2009, 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh@STILLEN

I'd be happy to bring this up in next new products meeting.. thanks for the suggestion..

I would be interested in an intake kit that utilizes those holes as well. I have a feeling there would be a lot of power to be gained.

Do you think it would be possible to design an intake where the bumper would not have to be removed to change the air filter?

ChadBlondiau · 06-08-2009, 01:38 AM

Just buy short ram

semtex · 06-08-2009, 08:25 AM

I've been thinking about this some more. The only potential downside to bringing in air from the fangs is that it might soak up heat from asphalt. That's why they don't design these things to draw air from low to the ground to begin with -- at a certain point you'll draw in heat rising from the surface and that'd be counter-productive. This is where R&D comes into play to figure out if the fang openings are too low to the ground.

m4a1mustang · 06-08-2009, 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by semtex

I've been thinking about this some more. The only potential downside to bringing in air from the fangs is that it might soak up heat from asphalt. That's why they don't design these things to draw air from low to the ground to begin with -- at a certain point you'll draw in heat rising from the surface and that'd be counter-productive. This is where R&D comes into play to figure out if the fang openings are too low to the ground.

I don't think this will really be an issue. Corvettes are notorious bottom-feeders.

06-06-2009, 03:34 PM	#1 (permalink)
NewlyIMPORTed A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Kennesaw, GA Posts: 1,109 Drives: 11 STI Sedan Rep Power: 17	Stillen g3 intake so i decided to bite the bullet and buy the ultra long tube intake for my 370 with my graduation money. well i was a little upset that i just compulsively went to forged and ordered it. so i get it back and after the bogging from the ecu reseting i didn't really notice a change. well i drove it the next day and i def noticed the change it took a day to break in but the torque and sound diff. is huge. so i thought i would share my experience for those contemplating the idea. well worth the the 549 without install. and thanks to forged for helping me out.

06-07-2009, 12:05 AM	#8 (permalink)
>135I Enthusiast Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Radcliff, KY Age: 41 Posts: 409 Drives: 2003 Cobra Rep Power: 16	I want to say something around $500 __________________ I will miss my Z. I hope she goes to a good home.

06-08-2009, 08:25 AM	#14 (permalink)
semtex A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Behind enemy lines Age: 53 Posts: 5,995 Drives: People to drink Rep Power: 32	I've been thinking about this some more. The only potential downside to bringing in air from the fangs is that it might soak up heat from asphalt. That's why they don't design these things to draw air from low to the ground to begin with -- at a certain point you'll draw in heat rising from the surface and that'd be counter-productive. This is where R&D comes into play to figure out if the fang openings are too low to the ground. __________________ "There are no small accidents on this circuit." -- Ayrton Senna 316.8whp & 248 ft/lbs (Dyno Dynamics) \| 319whp & 256 ft/lbs (DynoJet) (04/23/10) Stillen G3 CAI, CBE, Pulley / F.I. LTH / GTSpec Ladder Brace / Setrab Oil Cooler / UpRev-tuned by Forged Perf.

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06-06-2009, 04:02 PM	#2 (permalink)
Josh@STILLEN The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Costa Mesa, CA Posts: 1,197 Drives: 2004 G35 Coupe 6MT Rep Power: 533	Even on the dyno it requires a good 7-8 full runs to get the ECU adapted to the intake, so additional driving would have that same reaction. Does need a little time with the ECU to get to full potential. I'm glad you're enjoying the extra HP.. sound is killer right around 5500rpm's isn't it?

06-06-2009, 04:11 PM	#3 (permalink)
NewlyIMPORTed A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Kennesaw, GA Posts: 1,109 Drives: 11 STI Sedan Rep Power: 17	yeah like at first i didnt notice anything and then out of the blue my car was totally different i never would have expected this much from an intake but Stillen really did an awesome job with this and i plan on using Stillen for all my modifications to come.

06-06-2009, 10:22 PM	#4 (permalink)
CBRich A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SC Posts: 2,464 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 544	So Josh, with all that 370zdotcom said about fresh air really helping these intakes is there a possibility that you guys may present some sort of vent kit for the front bumper in the future? Or do you have suggestions on this?

06-06-2009, 10:42 PM	#5 (permalink)
Josh@STILLEN The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Costa Mesa, CA Posts: 1,197 Drives: 2004 G35 Coupe 6MT Rep Power: 533	The dyno results that have come out of technosquare are definitely different from results we've seen, and by the numerous others on this site, so it's hard for me to speak directly regarding that article. Fresh air is fresh air, and obviously the cooler the air the increased benefit for an air intake system. We rely on testing to determine results, and we have not tested the benefits directly relating the air intake and vented bumpers. There is a good chance we would not develop this type of product, and here is the reasoning: 1. We could develop a urethane piece that would work great by altering the factory fascia, requiring cutting and altering.. but for a lot of people, making such a significant change to their factory fascia would be a turnoff, and would require at least some proficiency of a body/paint shop to make sure cutting and installation were successful. 2. We could design a complete fascia with built in air passages for this reason, but a complete fascia brings the price way up, and the rest of the design would need to be one that was popular. Creating a urethane mold is an extremely expensive process, but one that nets the highest quality part, and volume sold is the only thing to bring that balance back. Anything is possible, and we're open to what you the owners are looking for..

06-06-2009, 11:12 PM	#6 (permalink)
CBRich A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SC Posts: 2,464 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 544	Mines seems to have the perfect idea but $$$

06-06-2009, 11:14 PM	#7 (permalink)
NewlyIMPORTed A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Kennesaw, GA Posts: 1,109 Drives: 11 STI Sedan Rep Power: 17	how much do those mines pieces cost?

06-08-2009, 01:38 AM	#13 (permalink)
ChadBlondiau Base Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: NOLA Posts: 34 Drives: Base m/t fk synro Rep Power: 15	Just buy short ram