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would you see an issue with running this with AAM's short tails? Not all that interested in replacing the entire CBE. More into the weight reduction/looks/sounds.

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Old 06-27-2012, 01:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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would you see an issue with running this with AAM's short tails?

Not all that interested in replacing the entire CBE. More into the weight reduction/looks/sounds.
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Yes, you're right, getting 8hp from an exhaust modification is absurdle impossbly, it's all a big conspiracy. You can't make more than 300WHP on a VHR, all dynos are fake, all modifincations actually lose power, etc. etc.
Never said the 8hp was suspicious, just the 40+ rwhp over a stock 370Z (~275-280rwhp SAE) on a dynojet with two exhaust mods and the restrictive can muffler. That and the unusual torque curve compared to typical VHR dynos (and your attitude..) lol

So what was your OEM dyno in SAE?
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Never said the 8hp was suspicious, just the 40+ rwhp over a stock 370Z (~275-280rwhp SAE) on a dynojet with two exhaust mods and the restrictive can muffler.
Stock I made 292WHP SAE in ~70F weather. Keep in mind manual transmission makes ~10hp more than AT to the wheels. Also I have non-sport package, so my brakes, wheels and tires are all smaller and lighter, ironically giving it more power to the wheels than sport.

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That and the unusual torque curve compared to typical VHR dynos (and your attitude..) lol
What about the torque curve do you think is strange that it doesn't match other VHRs?

My attitude is that no matter how many dyno charts and information you provide, someone on the internet is gonna argue that "something smells fishy", "i call BS", "it's fake" or that I somehow have the only 3270Z that didn't come with a VHR engine or whatever the hell you are saying and it gets old.

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So what was your OEM dyno in SAE?
My header thread here has stock vs header+tune dynos, but they were done months apart so the temp difference was about 20degrees. That's all the data I got and something people will just have to deal with.

I've seen now that the ambient air temperature does make a big difference on these cars. SAE and STD correction factors are designed to account for that difference, but the engine power output fluctuates beyond what those equations account for. Looking back, if the header before/after dynos had been done on the same day, the graphs would probably show a lot less gains. Still even if the gains were only say 20HP instead of 32HP, I would be perfectly happy with that.

The "before y-pipe" dyno from this thread was the same mod configuration as my "after headers" dyno in the other thread but the days/temps were different(80-85F for y-pipe runs vs 70F for after header run) so it was already about 9HP lower from that.

I originally posted STD corrected charts in the first post of the header thread. But since everyone cried foul I posted SAE version here: First mod: PPE Headers... +35WHP

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Stock I made 292WHP SAE in ~70F weather. Keep in mind manual transmission makes ~10hp more than AT to the wheels. Also I have non-sport package, so my brakes, wheels and tires are all smaller and lighter, ironically giving it more power to the wheels than sport.
There's actually no evidence to support that... I can show you numerous drf's where they make the same power on this car, presumably due to the locking trans.

What was the actual cf? The mild weather definitely helped a bit too.

Anyway, regardless, the PPE's netted you a solid 20+ whp (or ~7-8%) , which is substantially better than test pipes alone (and that was all that I was trying to determine... )

EDIT: Okay, that CF was pretty high... SAE you would have been in the expected ball park. Either way -- really great gains with the PPE headers -- congrats!
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would you see an issue with running this with AAM's short tails?

Not all that interested in replacing the entire CBE. More into the weight reduction/looks/sounds.
Seeing as they're completely different sections, probably not. If anything, this might result in some rasp, purely due to the resonance of a larger diameter of piping. I haven't seen anyone yet combine the short tails and any other mod other than TPs, which can be very raspy at normal cruising power.

I am also looking into doing test pipes along with the expanded y-pipe, but I'm extremely worried about the sound. The short tails can get annoying if I'm floating around 3k for whatever reason. It should produce pretty good gains though, since replacing the cats and changing the Y pipe pretty much converts the entire thing to straight piping. Headers would be the next step, although at that point, the sound would probably just end up being terrible in every way: loud, raspy, and with lots of drone. Sell everything off and get a CBE at that point, just for your own sanity.
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