Stillen vs. Smoky: your take on intakes

370Zsteve · 03-28-2010, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by TurboFC3C

Hell, I'll ask the man myself.

We will be interviewing Smoky next week (through a translator).
With that being said, are there any particular questions you want asked?
-keep it professional

I will do my best to ask him about his thoughts on other aspects of the Z as well, just let me know what you guys have!
--David--
David@maydaygarage.com

If this is true, ask him to reveal his secret intake design. Good luck!

G Fo12ce · 03-28-2010, 10:01 AM

Thanks again to the OP for doing the test.

I just wanted to throw out some points since I used to work around this stuff. I bounced this test off a few friends and these are some thoughts I wanted to share.

First: In terms of air temp, why do some seem to forget we have ducting through the core support to direct cooler air toward the filters (in terms of a short ram). People seem to forget that when they get going about how a CAI takes in cooler air, it may not be as big a difference on this car versus most others that don't have these ducts.

Second: It's unfortunate that they were not plotting Air Fuel Ratios on the dyno. After seeing this and talking to some people I think the air temp is less relevant versus what the design of the intake does to the AFR. Lean means more power. If you design your intake to push the AFR as lean as you can go and still be safe, your intake will make better peak numbers on the dyno. Pipe diameters, pipe length, filter restrictiveness, AFM placement all have an effect.

I think the intake that favorably suited this cars fueling requirement for the mods that it had won the shoot out.

LaSeeno · 03-30-2010, 10:32 AM

Am I blind or is this thread not very informative?

Zsteve · 03-30-2010, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by LaSeeno

Am I blind or is this thread not very informative?

I think its the pricing thats blinding you, it blinded me when I saw their pricing. Not to mention, damn near gave me a heart attack.

semtex · 03-30-2010, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve

I think its the pricing thats blinding you, it blinded me when I saw their pricing. Not to mention, damn near gave me a heart attack.

I must've missed it. How much are these intakes?

Modshack · 03-30-2010, 12:14 PM

[QUOTE=Baker-Jackson Nissan;465635]

Quote:

Originally Posted by semtex

I must've missed it. How much are these intakes?

Stilllen X2

FuszNissan · 03-30-2010, 12:16 PM

[QUOTE=Modshack;472744]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baker-Jackson Nissan

Stilllen X2

semtex · 03-30-2010, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Modshack

Stilllen X2

I see . . . well I guess that's fair. I mean, don't forget to take into account the added cost of the Turbonators that are stuffed into the intake pipes.

(Just kidding around, of course)

efuseakay · 03-31-2010, 10:35 PM

[QUOTE=Modshack;472744]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baker-Jackson Nissan

Stilllen X2

Quad intakes!

Zsteve · 03-30-2010, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by semtex

I must've missed it. How much are these intakes?

I have seen $1100 on some sites.

Red370 · 03-30-2010, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve

I have seen $1100 on some sites.

Me after seeing that price:

View Poll Results: Which intake do you think will come out on top?
Stillen G3	73	47.40%
Top Secret	48	31.17%
They will be essentially equal in HP gain.	33	21.43%
Voters: 154. You may not vote on this poll

03-28-2010, 10:01 AM	#2 (permalink)
G Fo12ce Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Socal Posts: 996 Drives: Sold! Rep Power: 52	Thanks again to the OP for doing the test. I just wanted to throw out some points since I used to work around this stuff. I bounced this test off a few friends and these are some thoughts I wanted to share. First: In terms of air temp, why do some seem to forget we have ducting through the core support to direct cooler air toward the filters (in terms of a short ram). People seem to forget that when they get going about how a CAI takes in cooler air, it may not be as big a difference on this car versus most others that don't have these ducts. Second: It's unfortunate that they were not plotting Air Fuel Ratios on the dyno. After seeing this and talking to some people I think the air temp is less relevant versus what the design of the intake does to the AFR. Lean means more power. If you design your intake to push the AFR as lean as you can go and still be safe, your intake will make better peak numbers on the dyno. Pipe diameters, pipe length, filter restrictiveness, AFM placement all have an effect. I think the intake that favorably suited this cars fueling requirement for the mods that it had won the shoot out. __________________ Nismo Suspension: New Owners Check Here! Last edited by G Fo12ce; 03-28-2010 at 10:03 AM.

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LaSeeno Base Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Mars Posts: 129 Drives: NA Rep Power: 17	Am I blind or is this thread not very informative?