Header mod or no?

NissanZ34 · 09-30-2021, 10:25 AM

I currently have HFC, Greddy GT Evo catback, Z1 2.5" intakes & a tune and my output is 300whp 264 wtq. I find my car to be on the loud side while I do not get bothered by law enforcement yet for that matter, although I got used to the drone and noise inside the cabin. I'm looking for more power but I can't justify going forced induction since I rather keep that kind of money for a brand new muscle car for 2022 or 2023. I would like your input on what could be done to increase the power while not getting raspy or obnoxious loud. The car is mainly used for spirited driving and casual street racing.

Spartan 1771 · 09-30-2021, 10:47 AM

You could go with the following:
1. Dewala air intake guide
2. Three inch intakes, but you'll need a retune
3. Port and polish your throttle bodies
4. Upgrade your throttle bodies with the Daytona throttle bodies, but you'll need a retune
5. Swap out your upper intake manifold to a Motordyne or Z1 model, or have yours ported and polished
6. Port and polish your lower intake manifold or upgrade to a Z1 model
7. Light weight / under drive pulley (I know there are mixed opinions on this, but it is an option)
8. Consider a better cat-back set up
9. Delete the HFCs and get test pipes (you'll increase rasp)
10. Upgrade the cams, but that's expensive and labor intensive.
11. Like you said, you can upgrade the headers, but your drone and rasp may increase. I can't speak to this because I haven't upgraded them........... yet.

I can't think of anything else right now, but if I come up with anything, I'll respond with it.

Spartan 1771 · 09-30-2021, 11:13 AM

You can always go with e85, but the gains won't be nearly as high as a FI engine with it, but it is an option. If my memory serves me correctly, I think people have gotten around a 25-30 hp gain with this on a N/A 370Z.

Chuck33079 · 09-30-2021, 11:37 AM

You'd be better off spending the money re-gearing the rear end over spending thousands of dollars to get 25-30 whp.

2011 Nismo#91 · 10-01-2021, 05:48 AM

Who Used or Is Using Nitrous on the 370z

Only way I can see being the same noise level and not messing with the internals.

husam2012 · 10-01-2021, 11:17 AM

Honestly any more mods past what you have aren't worth it. I wouldn't spend more money on anything but injectors to run E85 if you have that available locally. You can probably make 320whp on E85 with a good tune w/ your current mods. Going from 320whp to 350whp will cost you as much as FI and it will still be slow.

Quicksilvers · 10-05-2021, 08:54 AM

Staying naturally aspirated will cost you a small fortune and is not worth to most. I would not do anything else past what you have done to your Z already. Save up for forced induction and go that route if you really want more. Nitrous oxide is one of the best bangs for the buck and can be safe to use. I would go with nitrous kit on your Z!

Quicksilvers · 10-05-2021, 08:57 AM

A lot of us ask ourselves this same question at one time or another.

Tractionless · 10-09-2021, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spartan 1771

You could go with the following:
1. Dewala air intake guide

Wish I would have seen this a couple of months ago when going CAI. The intake temps. are exactly the same as my well insulated under hood open filter elements and don't cool off any faster when in motion.

Wonder if it can be done without removing the bumper cover.............again.

Considering my '10 Base bumper cover radiator inlet slats are deleted, it seems it may fit through the opening.

axmea? · 11-01-2021, 12:53 AM

If you already have HFC, no sense in spending $ on headers. You will not gain much from where you are. You can do it and and convince yourself there is a difference. Ya, that's just you justifying the spend. Go with gearing instead......4.08 and re tune. You will enjoy this better.

spoolin03 · 11-12-2021, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quicksilvers

Staying naturally aspirated will cost you a small fortune and is not worth to most. I would not do anything else past what you have done to your Z already. Save up for forced induction and go that route if you really want more. Nitrous oxide is one of the best bangs for the buck and can be safe to use. I would go with nitrous kit on your Z!

that sounds like a quitter mentality

I thought the same until I did the common mods (HFC, intake/exhaust, tune) AND bigger rear end (gears) and it's definitely worth it! Shut up with your generalizing suggestions!

spoolin03 · 11-12-2021, 01:10 PM

With bolt ons and tune + gear, the 370z is easily a 12 second car which isn't slow.

SteveVQ · 11-12-2021, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by husam2012

Honestly any more mods past what you have aren't worth it. I wouldn't spend more money on anything but injectors to run E85 if you have that available locally. You can probably make 320whp on E85 with a good tune w/ your current mods. Going from 320whp to 350whp will cost you as much as FI and it will still be slow.

Interesting, I'm NOT on e85 and its on UpRev making... look at my sig.
I'm not even looking at E85 options until I go boosted.

If I add the M370 intake mani and retune on Ecutek, 335+whp should be doable with my Tuner.. again, without E85.

spoolin03 · 11-14-2021, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveVQ

Interesting, I'm NOT on e85 and its on UpRev making... look at my sig.
I'm not even looking at E85 options until I go boosted.

If I add the M370 intake mani and retune on Ecutek, 335+whp should be doable with my Tuner.. again, without E85.

It's because you guys already have the good gas (93? 95?)

Over here in california, we have watered down gas. So E85 will be felt more for us

SteveVQ · 11-15-2021, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spoolin03

It's because you guys already have the good gas (93? 95?)

Over here in california, we have watered down gas. So E85 will be felt more for us

Yeah, good point that's true. Cali has 91oct so I guess in Cali upgrading to E85 would be beneficial.

93oct here btw.

09-30-2021, 10:25 AM	#1 (permalink)
NissanZ34 Base Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Canada Posts: 92 Drives: 2010 370z 6MT Rep Power: 5	Header mod or no? I currently have HFC, Greddy GT Evo catback, Z1 2.5" intakes & a tune and my output is 300whp 264 wtq. I find my car to be on the loud side while I do not get bothered by law enforcement yet for that matter, although I got used to the drone and noise inside the cabin. I'm looking for more power but I can't justify going forced induction since I rather keep that kind of money for a brand new muscle car for 2022 or 2023. I would like your input on what could be done to increase the power while not getting raspy or obnoxious loud. The car is mainly used for spirited driving and casual street racing.

09-30-2021, 10:47 AM	#2 (permalink)
Spartan 1771 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Western Maryland Posts: 1,280 Drives: Wife crazy & 09 370Z Rep Power: 105453	You could go with the following: 1. Dewala air intake guide 2. Three inch intakes, but you'll need a retune 3. Port and polish your throttle bodies 4. Upgrade your throttle bodies with the Daytona throttle bodies, but you'll need a retune 5. Swap out your upper intake manifold to a Motordyne or Z1 model, or have yours ported and polished 6. Port and polish your lower intake manifold or upgrade to a Z1 model 7. Light weight / under drive pulley (I know there are mixed opinions on this, but it is an option) 8. Consider a better cat-back set up 9. Delete the HFCs and get test pipes (you'll increase rasp) 10. Upgrade the cams, but that's expensive and labor intensive. 11. Like you said, you can upgrade the headers, but your drone and rasp may increase. I can't speak to this because I haven't upgraded them........... yet. I can't think of anything else right now, but if I come up with anything, I'll respond with it. ZontheRocks, Ricky249 and SeeThruHead like this. __________________ ~Rob -DD Air Guide, Stillen G3 CAIs, 63mm Throttle Bodies, Motordyne M370, Berk HFCs, FI TDX CBE (non-res, CF), Sprint booster v3, Ecutek Dyno Tuned, and the list goes on... Last edited by Spartan 1771; 09-30-2021 at 01:39 PM.

09-30-2021, 11:13 AM	#3 (permalink)
Spartan 1771 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Western Maryland Posts: 1,280 Drives: Wife crazy & 09 370Z Rep Power: 105453	You can always go with e85, but the gains won't be nearly as high as a FI engine with it, but it is an option. If my memory serves me correctly, I think people have gotten around a 25-30 hp gain with this on a N/A 370Z. __________________ ~Rob -DD Air Guide, Stillen G3 CAIs, 63mm Throttle Bodies, Motordyne M370, Berk HFCs, FI TDX CBE (non-res, CF), Sprint booster v3, Ecutek Dyno Tuned, and the list goes on...

09-30-2021, 11:37 AM	#4 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29538	You'd be better off spending the money re-gearing the rear end over spending thousands of dollars to get 25-30 whp. Streetlife, Spartan 1771, 2011 Nismo#91 and 9 others like this. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

10-01-2021, 05:48 AM	#5 (permalink)
2011 Nismo#91 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: NJ Posts: 2,381 Drives: slowly Rep Power: 33858	Who Used or Is Using Nitrous on the 370z Only way I can see being the same noise level and not messing with the internals. krazynismo likes this. __________________ GTR TT 493Whp/431lbft, Ecutek, Southbend 6puck,Quaife, RPM RollBar 4Point, R888R, JRZ RSPro F(10R/10C) R(10R/6C) 1000f500r inlbs+150inlbs Tender, SPL everywhere.Full Specs

10-01-2021, 11:17 AM	#6 (permalink)
husam2012 Track Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Michigan Posts: 542 Drives: 370Z Nismo Rep Power: 9469	Honestly any more mods past what you have aren't worth it. I wouldn't spend more money on anything but injectors to run E85 if you have that available locally. You can probably make 320whp on E85 with a good tune w/ your current mods. Going from 320whp to 350whp will cost you as much as FI and it will still be slow. JARblue, Rusty, krazynismo and 1 others like this. __________________ Creator of the GTR TT Conversion Kit, NA Record Holder (401WHP) Ecutek Master Tuner (VQ37, VR30, VR38, B58, S55, S58) BTWTuning

10-05-2021, 08:54 AM	#7 (permalink)
Quicksilvers A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2017 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 2,039 Drives: 2017 370z Rep Power: 25462	Staying naturally aspirated will cost you a small fortune and is not worth to most. I would not do anything else past what you have done to your Z already. Save up for forced induction and go that route if you really want more. Nitrous oxide is one of the best bangs for the buck and can be safe to use. I would go with nitrous kit on your Z! __________________ Mr. Clean

11-01-2021, 12:53 AM	#10 (permalink)
axmea? A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: SoCal Posts: 6,233 Drives: WELL ZED PW 6MT Rep Power: 53241	If you already have HFC, no sense in spending $ on headers. You will not gain much from where you are. You can do it and and convince yourself there is a difference. Ya, that's just you justifying the spend. Go with gearing instead......4.08 and re tune. You will enjoy this better. JARblue likes this. __________________ >MyZ's Album< NISMO Convert/ECUTEK/Takeda CAI/F.I. HFC NR CB Carbon/F.I. 34 Row Oil Cooler/4.08 Final Drive /Powertrix+Swifts/Hotchkis/SPL/Whiteline/TWM/Zoom Engineering/EVO-R/AeroJacket Vented CF Fenders + CF Spoiler/Avant Garde-WORK/NST/Morimoto Halo/STi Clear Lenses/Carbon Signal Automotive/RJM Performance/ZSpeed Clutch Flywheel CSC delete

11-12-2021, 01:10 PM	#12 (permalink)
spoolin03 Base Member Join Date: Jul 2021 Location: . Posts: 52 Drives: . Rep Power: 6713	With bolt ons and tune + gear, the 370z is easily a 12 second car which isn't slow.

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