best exhaust for an S/C?

NYBladeZ · 02-06-2010, 06:37 PM

I know this is all in theory, GTM and stillen will eventually come out and give us the real info. Thus far I've installed GTM test pipes, other than the smell I love them no CEL thus far.

A lot of exhausts out there run different kinds of plumbing, we have thus far seen x-pipes, y pipes, and true duals. Which one do you think would work best for a supercharger setup? I know it would be a 2.5in but wondering what kind of plumbing you guys would run.

CrownR426 · 02-06-2010, 06:39 PM

True Duals all day baby, baby!

NYBladeZ · 02-06-2010, 06:46 PM

that means everyone who bought a system with an x pipe such as berk or a y pipe will be leaving out a few HP if they go F.I.

Togo · 02-06-2010, 07:15 PM

I'm not sure there would be much of a difference between a H,X,Y pipe design but I could very well be horribly wrong...

I figure if the difference in designs has been so minimal with NA setups then so long as pipe diameters remain 2.5, a SC shouldn't be that huge an addition to the equation and thus change the results drastically. But maybe the higher volume of gas might start to bring the mid-pipe designs into the equation more...

I guess I'd like to see the answer to this as well.. ahha

One_Quick_Z · 02-06-2010, 07:30 PM

H or X pipe will offer the best flow for a FI setup, You dont want to be narrowing down the flow route from 2-1 Y pipe.

DAN

spearfish25 · 02-06-2010, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by One_Quick_Z

H or X pipe will offer the best flow for a FI setup, You dont want to be narrowing down the flow route from 2-1 Y pipe.
DAN

On the Stillen, the diameter of the single portion of the Y is greater than the diameter of each of the inserting pipes. In terms of area, a single 3" pipe has more cross-sectional area than two 2" pipes. So flow is better with the single 3" pipe. With the Stillen design, the only factor that could potentially 'hurt' your power would be turbulence going from 2 pipes to 1 pipe and then back to 2 pipes. Hard to really quantify that effect though.

NYBladeZ · 02-06-2010, 07:56 PM

anyone know who is putting out midpipes other than HKS?

Red370 · 02-06-2010, 08:00 PM

I'm pretty sure Stillen will be building their setup with their own exhaust, standard 2.5" diameter will do. I doubt the hp difference between 2.5" setups will be noticeable. Unless its a nismo, then you might lose power

Zsteve · 02-06-2010, 10:17 PM

both SCs will work with all aftermarket CBEs out so far.

NYBladeZ · 02-06-2010, 11:58 PM

I know they will work, the question asked was what kind of plumbing would work better.

Zsteve · 02-07-2010, 12:34 AM

I think all would only differ by a few hp at the most, and after paying big bucks for the FI I dont think its worth the extra money to make up a few hp when you are already getting bug numbers from the fi.

TeamARK · 02-07-2010, 04:06 AM

Our true dual was meant for Forced Induction.

m4a1mustang · 02-07-2010, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by NYBladeZ

I know they will work, the question asked was what kind of plumbing would work better.

I think you'll be splitting hairs trying to figure out which works better. On these cars X & H pipes are mostly for sound.

Back when I had my Mustang, we had to run a crossover to balance the exhaust pulses due to the firing order of the engine. X pipes tended to make a little bit more power than H pipes, but it was only just.

370Zsteve · 02-07-2010, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by NYBladeZ

that means everyone who bought a system with an x pipe such as berk or a y pipe will be leaving out a few HP if they go F.I.

Wha? Nonsense!

m4a1mustang · 02-07-2010, 07:48 AM

Also, I have noticed you have made some anti-Y pipe comments in other threads... there really isn't anything wrong with a Y-pipe on these cars, either. As long as both pipes coming off the headers collect into a large enough single pipe at the Y, you're fine.

There are a lot of TT cars that run Y pipes into a single exit exhaust. Heck, all of the LS1 Firebirds/Camaros came from the factory with a Y pipe.

02-06-2010, 06:37 PM	#1 (permalink)
NYBladeZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: New York Posts: 2,158 Drives: Lotus Exige S Rep Power: 20	best exhaust for an S/C? I know this is all in theory, GTM and stillen will eventually come out and give us the real info. Thus far I've installed GTM test pipes, other than the smell I love them no CEL thus far. A lot of exhausts out there run different kinds of plumbing, we have thus far seen x-pipes, y pipes, and true duals. Which one do you think would work best for a supercharger setup? I know it would be a 2.5in but wondering what kind of plumbing you guys would run. __________________ 2009 Carbon Fiber/Red 370z aka Trish: Sports Package, Meisterschaft full catback, Fast Intentions Longtube Headers, Injen Long Tube Intakes, UpRev Tune: Sold 2008 Lotus Exige S Club Racer aka Bella, always leaves me smiling

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NYBladeZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: New York Posts: 2,158 Drives: Lotus Exige S Rep Power: 20	that means everyone who bought a system with an x pipe such as berk or a y pipe will be leaving out a few HP if they go F.I. __________________ 2009 Carbon Fiber/Red 370z aka Trish: Sports Package, Meisterschaft full catback, Fast Intentions Longtube Headers, Injen Long Tube Intakes, UpRev Tune: Sold 2008 Lotus Exige S Club Racer aka Bella, always leaves me smiling

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Togo A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: E. Northport, NY Posts: 7,597 Drives: Stuff Rep Power: 656	I'm not sure there would be much of a difference between a H,X,Y pipe design but I could very well be horribly wrong... I figure if the difference in designs has been so minimal with NA setups then so long as pipe diameters remain 2.5, a SC shouldn't be that huge an addition to the equation and thus change the results drastically. But maybe the higher volume of gas might start to bring the mid-pipe designs into the equation more... I guess I'd like to see the answer to this as well.. ahha __________________ This will decimate all after you put about fifteen grand in it or more, and if we have to, overnight parts from Japan. Joe Clem and Koeppel Nissan

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One_Quick_Z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Seneca Il Posts: 1,374 Drives: 10 Civic EX Sedan Rep Power: 218	H or X pipe will offer the best flow for a FI setup, You dont want to be narrowing down the flow route from 2-1 Y pipe. DAN __________________ -My BRZ with exhaust will decimate all if we overnight parts from Japan- 10 Civic EX Sedan- Current Daily

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NYBladeZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: New York Posts: 2,158 Drives: Lotus Exige S Rep Power: 20	anyone know who is putting out midpipes other than HKS? __________________ 2009 Carbon Fiber/Red 370z aka Trish: Sports Package, Meisterschaft full catback, Fast Intentions Longtube Headers, Injen Long Tube Intakes, UpRev Tune: Sold 2008 Lotus Exige S Club Racer aka Bella, always leaves me smiling

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Red370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kaiserslautern, Germany Posts: 4,391 Drives: your mom to church Rep Power: 295	I'm pretty sure Stillen will be building their setup with their own exhaust, standard 2.5" diameter will do. I doubt the hp difference between 2.5" setups will be noticeable. Unless its a nismo, then you might lose power __________________ 2011 Mustang 5.0 \| 3.55's \| Lethal Performance off road H-Pipe \| Magnaflow Muffler Delete \| JLT CAI/Bama tuned 417whp/ 404 ft/lbs

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Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: TX Posts: 3,298 Drives: the 2 balled club Rep Power: 21	both SCs will work with all aftermarket CBEs out so far. __________________ 2010 LS3 C6 Silver coupe corvette

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NYBladeZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: New York Posts: 2,158 Drives: Lotus Exige S Rep Power: 20	I know they will work, the question asked was what kind of plumbing would work better. __________________ 2009 Carbon Fiber/Red 370z aka Trish: Sports Package, Meisterschaft full catback, Fast Intentions Longtube Headers, Injen Long Tube Intakes, UpRev Tune: Sold 2008 Lotus Exige S Club Racer aka Bella, always leaves me smiling

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Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: TX Posts: 3,298 Drives: the 2 balled club Rep Power: 21	I think all would only differ by a few hp at the most, and after paying big bucks for the FI I dont think its worth the extra money to make up a few hp when you are already getting bug numbers from the fi. __________________ 2010 LS3 C6 Silver coupe corvette

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m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	Also, I have noticed you have made some anti-Y pipe comments in other threads... there really isn't anything wrong with a Y-pipe on these cars, either. As long as both pipes coming off the headers collect into a large enough single pipe at the Y, you're fine. There are a lot of TT cars that run Y pipes into a single exit exhaust. Heck, all of the LS1 Firebirds/Camaros came from the factory with a Y pipe. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

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