Stillen SC and Invidia Gemini Exhaust ??

1slow370 · 09-03-2014, 02:05 PM

it all depends on the blower, the rotrex's don't quite switch into full on hairdryer mode like the vortechs do at high boost that is why they typically run more power without popping.

Akmcmahon · 09-03-2014, 02:24 PM

I posted this a week ago but didn't get much response. But this dyno was done at Stillen. Some things to consider as you can see in my post. 3rd gear pulls and no fan. My HP numbers seem on track considering, but my TQ numbers seem low. Did you ask what gear they were testing in? It's hot as balls in SoCal so that doesn't help. Did they use a fan at all? Everything adds up.

Did a baseline dyno today!

JWillis72 · 09-03-2014, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by nomodsjk

There is no way even with a nismo that with the stillen SC kit and their canned tune will it put down 416whp. My car has the stillen SC plus 9lb pulley and headers test pipes and the cat back exhaust and with a custom tune from r\t tuning I'm making 440 at the wheel which is exactly 50 more at the wheel over the stillen canned tune so I call bull****. Also my car is not a nismo

Not on the Stillen canned tune but 416whp is doable with a custom tune, mines 418whp with the 8lb pulley and Stillen cat back exhaust.

The canned tune sucked on my car and I don't think you will get that 416whp on Cali gas.

JWillis72 · 09-03-2014, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Akmcmahon

I posted this a week ago but didn't get much response. But this dyno was done at Stillen. Some things to consider as you can see in my post. 3rd gear pulls and no fan. My HP numbers seem on track considering, but my TQ numbers seem low. Did you ask what gear they were testing in? It's hot as balls in SoCal so that doesn't help. Did they use a fan at all? Everything adds up.

Did a baseline dyno today!

Wow, when you posted that I didn't realize it was at Stillen. Maybe they aren't changing the canned tune because of the CARB stuff you have to meet?

ANMVQ · 09-03-2014, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JWillis72

Wow, when you posted that I didn't realize it was at Stillen. Maybe they aren't changing the canned tune because of the CARB stuff you have to meet?

And 3rd gear pulls?

You WHP should be at worst 400 and QTRQ should be right around 300. 3rd gear is the wrong gear.

Team_STILLEN · 09-03-2014, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by nomodsjk

And there is no way that their cat back exhaust is going to add 30 more at the wheel over your invida! Again I call bs!

We just changed the exhaust and the car feel completely different. Why don't you come by and drive it and see. We will be dynoing tomorrow and I will post results.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JWillis72

Wow, when you posted that I didn't realize it was at Stillen. Maybe they aren't changing the canned tune because of the CARB stuff you have to meet?

We have been changing the canned tunes recently. Any supercharger kit after April 2014 has our new tunes. We had an IPL in Florida make 429 whp with a stock IPL exhaust (auto).

On Cali 91 Octane Gas 2013 G37 Coupe with STILLEN Supercharger and Exhaust. Smog legal tune on a 95 degree day.

STILLEN 370Z with STILLEN Supercharger and STILLEN Exhaust (80 degrees) 91 Octane CARB Legal Tune.

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Originally Posted by ANMVQ

And 3rd gear pulls?

You WHP should be at worst 400 and QTRQ should be right around 300. 3rd gear is the wrong gear.

These are 3rd gear pulls because 4th gets going too fast.

JWillis72 · 09-03-2014, 07:33 PM

I'm glad to hear the canned tune has changed!

JWillis72 · 09-03-2014, 07:35 PM

I'm a Stillen fan but the canned tune really let me down! Glad to see you are working on it!

zmanelite · 09-03-2014, 07:53 PM

Yeah i talked to a few tuners some of them were recomended in this thread and they were saying the new tune were way better
Hoping for some good news from you guys soon

ANMVQ · 09-03-2014, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JWillis72

I'm a Stillen fan but the canned tune really let me down! Glad to see you are working on it!

as I am also , But the canned tune I had only made 40 more WHP than my bolted tune. I'm just curious too , why did you emphasize smog legal tune ?
Just because we get a custom tune doesn't mean it's not smog legal. I got my sticker on my 412 WHP custom tune.
Get work in changing the canned tunes

nomodsjk · 09-03-2014, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by zmanelite

You running 91 or 93 oct? ^^^^

93 octane

nomodsjk · 09-03-2014, 10:33 PM

Also please don't get me wrong I have every performance part that stillen makes for a reason. I love my stillen set up and I'm glad to hear that the tune and the exhaust is better. Just sux that I bought probably the last kit before you changed it. I bought mine the 3rd week in April this year lol figures

ZKraken22 · 09-03-2014, 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Team_STILLEN

We just changed the exhaust and the car feel completely different. Why don't you come by and drive it and see. We will be dynoing tomorrow and I will post results.

We have been changing the canned tunes recently. Any supercharger kit after April 2014 has our new tunes. We had an IPL in Florida make 429 whp with a stock IPL exhaust (auto).

On Cali 91 Octane Gas 2013 G37 Coupe with STILLEN Supercharger and Exhaust. Smog legal tune on a 95 degree day.

STILLEN 370Z with STILLEN Supercharger and STILLEN Exhaust (80 degrees) 91 Octane CARB Legal Tune.

These are 3rd gear pulls because 4th gets going too fast.

I heard Stillen was working on the Supercharger system that will make more power. Is this what i've been hearing? A better tune?

Akmcmahon · 09-04-2014, 01:12 AM

To be clear, I'm not bashing on Stillen in my thread. I was just pointing out how they dynoed and the differences to what I'm used to seeing. Everyone there is really cool and helpful. I will definitely be going back to them. Customer service goes a long way for me and they were incredibly courteous.

I am baffled by the lack of a fan on the dyno though. Especially when the car shows heat soak, this would help reduce that and simulate a closer to real world experience. I'll probably bring it in to dyno my car with my new exhaust and HFC. Since info is lacking on the Ark Grip exhaust, figure it will help the community.

JWillis72 · 09-04-2014, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ZKraken22

I heard Stillen was working on the Supercharger system that will make more power. Is this what i've been hearing? A better tune?

No, they are working on a kit to make more power also.

09-03-2014, 02:05 PM	#16 (permalink)
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09-03-2014, 02:24 PM	#17 (permalink)
Akmcmahon Base Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: San Diego Posts: 159 Drives: 13 370Z Mag Black M6 Rep Power: 14	I posted this a week ago but didn't get much response. But this dyno was done at Stillen. Some things to consider as you can see in my post. 3rd gear pulls and no fan. My HP numbers seem on track considering, but my TQ numbers seem low. Did you ask what gear they were testing in? It's hot as balls in SoCal so that doesn't help. Did they use a fan at all? Everything adds up. Did a baseline dyno today!

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JWillis72 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Fort Myers FL Posts: 2,002 Drives: 2009 370Z yellow 7AT Rep Power: 45	I'm glad to hear the canned tune has changed!

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JWillis72 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Fort Myers FL Posts: 2,002 Drives: 2009 370Z yellow 7AT Rep Power: 45	I'm a Stillen fan but the canned tune really let me down! Glad to see you are working on it!

09-03-2014, 10:33 PM	#27 (permalink)
nomodsjk Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: martinsburg wv Posts: 2,073 Drives: 2011 370z MB/7at Rep Power: 19963	Also please don't get me wrong I have every performance part that stillen makes for a reason. I love my stillen set up and I'm glad to hear that the tune and the exhaust is better. Just sux that I bought probably the last kit before you changed it. I bought mine the 3rd week in April this year lol figures

09-04-2014, 01:12 AM	#29 (permalink)
Akmcmahon Base Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: San Diego Posts: 159 Drives: 13 370Z Mag Black M6 Rep Power: 14	To be clear, I'm not bashing on Stillen in my thread. I was just pointing out how they dynoed and the differences to what I'm used to seeing. Everyone there is really cool and helpful. I will definitely be going back to them. Customer service goes a long way for me and they were incredibly courteous. I am baffled by the lack of a fan on the dyno though. Especially when the car shows heat soak, this would help reduce that and simulate a closer to real world experience. I'll probably bring it in to dyno my car with my new exhaust and HFC. Since info is lacking on the Ark Grip exhaust, figure it will help the community.