here is a pic of my datalog from just a minute ago very very safe tune but look at the MAF's volts at 10psi i think i have the lowest of any kit out there....


http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/...psrfftzggu.jpg

and some more proof....maf look great now time to lean it out some and get some more HP...

http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/...psghueq4i7.jpg
http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/...psem5npc8b.jpg

barely 4volt at 10psi @6000rpm sound good ;)

what size is your MAF tube ? 2.75'' or 3'' ?

3in with tall maf housings. .it only hit 4 volts a couple time mostly 3.92

just got of the phone with jon at Z1 and just sent him some logs and my map he is going to clean it up so it's not so rich...i'm pretty sure the stock clutch is about done...anyone know how much it can hold?...jon is also going to let me kno about when i can get on the dyno to...any one recommend any clutch thats not 2k...

I run this baby...

South Bend Clutch Stage 2 Drag Clutch kit 6 Paddle

Handles it just fine.

Lots of people run this one and love it. Most of the FI turbo kits are mated to these

http://specialtyz.com/shop/default/s...4-and-v36.html

I personally run the Z1 full face and lite weight flywheel and have had no issues but I'm not reaching for 600whp. I'm probably more like 475-500 whp and 450ish wftlb

This is awesome man. I need to figure out the maf situation.
I.have a southbend stage 3 quiet disk and love it. Oem feel with just a tad of chatter at really low rpms. Id buy it again.

Thanks guys I'll check into them...I get paid Tuesday and was going to build my exhaust but the clutch went alot sooner then I thought...I'll order it tuesday

How much boost r u pushing?

The specialty Z setup is legit, Tony over at F.I got me into that setup :tiphat:

I'm running the Specialty Z clutch with 6 puck disc. That thing can handle a LOT of torque and abuse. As good as this clutch is, it sucks in bumper to bumper traffic and it makes my Z sound like a cement mixer on idle. If your Z isn't a DD, I'd say go for the puck style, otherwise, get the max street disc.

Nice bro'

~Reagan

I'll check out the Specialty Z clutch. I want a 6 puck don't really care about a leg work out. Thank you for the suggestions.

Thanks

This is what I run, highly recommended.

ZSpeed Performance South Bend Complete Clutch Package Stage 3 Daily 370 G37 G35

I've been using the Z1 clutch kit (6-puck sprung + lightweight flywheel) for over a year now. No complaints and its less than a grand.

I have the same setup but full face. I like it because it keeps stock engage point on the pedal

I was on 10.5lbs. Shooting for 14 daily and 16 track.

Same here. Love it. :tup:

I could send u a set of mine if u want...

So here is a kit update. 800 miles so far been everywhere with this car.

1. Solid manifold (eeverybody says won't work) is holding great. I think I'm going to heat wrap and get a turbo blanket. But all in all is great so far.

2. 3in charge pipes with tall maf's as of Right now barely hits 4 volts with 10.5 psi which is great I hope all else company's steal my idea and make there's better.

3. Oil Is almost right at 10 quarts and has only hit 220 degrees once after a couple long highway pulls. Stays nice and cool...

4. Hits full boost at 3200rpms and comes in hard. So far so good with charge pipe route no clunking or knocks which I heard from the BP kit so I call that a plus. Ground clearance can't get any better lowered the car and nothing scraps other then my factory lip.

5. Finshed the intake from the turbo to behind the bumper and is very loud no worries about any water at all.

6. Talking with Jon at z1 about getting on the dyno to see what it puts down.

7. With every single thing I did from fuel pump to fuel return and clutch is $5647.27. And that counts tons of extra material I didn't need...

I really should become a vendor but not yet...thanks for everybody that showed support. I was nervous that there was going to be some trash talking but everybody is good people so thanks...If anybody wants to know anything our would like some help just pm me....

Idk how the heck I missed this thread but damn man, good job. Its things like this that keeps the platform moving forward instead of staying stagnant. If I'm not mistaken, this is exactly how Sasha with BP started making his kits. Started with him making his own, then someone else's. After that he started making them and selling them. Good work my man!

I actually didn't take this thread seriously and just now read through it. Boy was I wrong. Much props! Enjoy your monster!

Sasha work is top notch and he's kit is top notch and as I go I still learning but thanks and I'm glad u got to check it out not sure yet but I mite go to z nationals...

Trust me alot of people didn't take me seriously but when I pulled it out it turns heads when to the car meet Saturday night I was the only boosted z and 1 of 5 cars that was 450 or higher

Correct, and all the kits I build/have developed have been engineered from the ground up in house. Which means I (or Boosted Performance) own the design rights :)

When I started all this a few years back I had no intention on it going where it is today. I did my own build because I did not like anything on the market at the time. Everybody was using small Honda sized T3 turbos which had their low HP limits...so I am still the only manufacturer to use T4 sized turbos as far as single kits go, including this platform.

As a result more power per psi was made, and the enthusiasts started noticing...at which point I went into production as I was getting pm's almost daily. With close to 100 kits out there I am still going strong and look forward to ramping up production in the very near future.

Heck..this is my view right now:

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...psnbjquuxt.jpg

I kinda feel like u just tried to take a shot at me...

Sorry, not at all. If anybody has the skills that you have, and is capable of building a kit of any kind for themselves, by all means, all the power to ya.

All I am saying is that I did not take somebody else's design and tried to make my own brand of it, and tried to sell to others. There has been a number of DIY guys that have built their own mid-month kit on the 350z's. Heck they have contacted me directly and asked for some specifics....and I was more than happy to help.

We are all enthusiasts here who share the same love for modifying these cars...and I as one of these enthusiasts would never discourage that type of stuff.

What you did is great, and I congratulate you on making it all work. I wish you luck on the dyno and hope to see similar results to those that my customers have shared with the community.

First off thanks...and I will say this alot of people have ask me to sell this kit. Which is a very big commitment. But as my kit is off your idea of a mid mount. it's very different and I will say this I did the anti surge housing by accident back in December. When I talked to u and was going to going to buy ur manifold and u stopped talking to me ( not a shot at you as I know ur busy) but in reality and I have evidence that I did it be for you (once again not a shot at you). The same goes for the charge pipe route do to the fact I have a intake for my turbo. Once again I give you props and I admit I went off your idea of a mid mount. But I did your V2 be for you did and I have evidence to show proof and I'm not mad cuz ur making money off it.. so if decide to sell it I will become a sponsor and do so. But I'm not here to start a war I'm here to show my work and the price I did it for...sasha ur the man hands down but don't say I built off your kit and made it my own when I did things be4 you..Once again I'm am not planning as of now to sell my kit...


Ps. I guess you copied jtran
I copied you
And every twin turbo kit copied greddy... is that pretty much it.... how does it work....

The SP (anti surge cover) was implemented on the BT twin scroll kit mid February of 2013 on my own car, a 350Z:

http://my350z.com/forum/forced-induc...from-bp-9.html

Just sayn'n.:)

As for the reference to the JTran kit, which is a twin scroll kit, I did not copy it.

Compare the manifold pipe routing of that kit to my:

Jtran Studios Presents turbo kits (fabrication thread) - Page 2 - MY350Z.COM Forums

The turbo location is shared, but the primary and very important design difference is the equal length primaries on the BP manifolds, which separates the two kits. They also made the passenger side primary go over top of the transmission, which again is very different from a design point of view.

As far as the whole "mid-mount" turbo stuff goes...the term wasn't even around till I started with the very first kit (which was a true mid-mount since it was right in the middle of the car) on my own 350z back in 2009 :).

I think you are taking offense where offense shouldn't be taken. Sasha is saying that rather than try to make a kit based off of an existing design, he decided to go another route and design his kit based off of his preferences. He looked at the issues with the existing turbo kits on the 350z, and tried to rectify those by building one that didn't have those issues, and by building something that was more DIY friendly. At the time twin turbo kits dominated the market and we all know how to install those lol. They aren't something that your average enthusiast is willing to install by themselves. I don't think he is talking down or taking shots at you. I could be wrong though. I'm not trying to speak for the man lol.

Also if I remember correctly, JTrans kit was made after Boosted Performances.

And again I say buy all means it's u and yes you did it first on 350z and I was the first one that did it on a 370z just saying...and yes I went with ur style of manifold but I changed the fact I'm not going to run a flex pipe so I don't run it all the weight on one side of my headers (yes I know about thermal expanson). I went with my charge pipe the way you did but I did be4 u released your version 2 by about 4 months and my manifold and turbo can charge pipe seats about a inch higher there yours as my kit the sub frame is the lowest point of the car. My charge pipe and turbo don't make knocking noises like ur kit does(3 of ur customers have pm and said publicly) my kit runs a intake off the turbo to behind the bumper. So because I built the same style manifold as you
(equal length primaries)I'm copied you. But I ran anti surge housing first (on the 370z) ran the charge piping first (on the 370z) and 3in charge pipes I copied you....I built ur V2 kit be4 you thought about it...so I guess we share the same style manifold but mine is solid. As for the term mid mount I'm glad u made. Cuz it was it was a great idea. And once I give you props and I'm not trying to start a war but as for the 370z goes I did it my style I know you did somethings on the 350z but that's a different car. Last time I checked I we r on the370z.com and I own a 370z so I think I'm good...I well be releasing this kit once the R&D is done and I talk to AK and being sponsor of this great forum and I well beat your price by 1500 dollars and add a fuel return....as far as people thinking I copied every aspect. There is a million ways to skin a cat I did it this way. I'm sorry I copied a version of ur kit that your that you didn't have out yet...congrats to you being the King of mid mount turbos....but I'm not going away anytime soon..

Maybe I did I'm not sure but I busted my *** on this for someone to say it's there and I copied it when the version I made was just an idea to him. I never said I made the kit off just my idea and I gave props to BP from the beginning I think I made key changes and went a different route (be4 he released his version 2) and made it better. But it's whatever i said 100 times I'm not trying to start a war. I want to show what i did and I pretty sure I started with just a bunch of metal and fabricated everything with my hands. I have never seen his kit in person. I know I'm the new guy and no one is going to side with me but that's fine I didn't make it where I did in the army worrying about what people think of me. I'm sorry BP if I over reacted to the situation at hand and/or copied your idea's. This thread is about my build so from now on I won't be responding to any other post of the topic off MY build.

In the words of Nelly... It's getting hot in hurrrrrrr :stirthepot:

Hmmm...didn't know about all these apparent problems with my kit.

As far as I know, one customer had an issue with the driver side manifold pipe being very close to the under side of the transmission. I gave him some advice on what he could do, and if that doesn't work he can send the manifold back for repair..at no cost to him of course. I stand behind all my products.

The OEM header bolt holes are about 1/16" larger (diameter) than the studs/bolts, so it is possible that even OEM headers don't sit in the exact same location on each car. It all depends on how they were installed at the factory...and I have seen this myself. That 1/16" can drastically change the placement of the turbo once the manifold bolts up. As a result the manifold has to have a +/- on the clearance tolerances...but of course this type of knowledge comes from years of experience on this particular platform. This means that there is always a small chance that any piece of any kit may be closer to something on the car than the manufacturer intended. There is some free advice for you.

There was another that had the IC pipe issue, but as far as I know that was resolved by adjusting the couplers a bit.

As for $1,500 cheaper...I'd love to see it. If I was to send all my stuff to China and get it build there....I still don't think I would be able to sell the kit for $5,700 ($1,500 less than it is now, as you have suggested) because at the end of the day, it would essentially be a loss.

I am sorry but it is clear that you have never put a complete kit together, and understand the actual cost/time/effort necessary to do so. No offence, but you have to go through the whole process before you start throwing out statements and $ figures like that. Also, remember that I have no overhead AT ALL. No employees, no sales people, no rental space, no extra bills and the price is what it is because it is not cheap to put one of these kits together.

All the little stuff adds up in a hurry. fitting, taps, drill bits, oil lines, thermostat, zip ties, oil filter, oil pan spacer, scavenge pump relay harness, fuel pump relay harness, manual printing, vacuum lines, argon gas (especially when you back purge the pipes like I do), cutting discs...ect.

EDIT: As I am putting these manifold together here I was thinking....if you can build these and sell them for $1,500 less than me, I think we can do business. I will buy them all from you at that price....provided the quality meets my specs of course.

Haha I'm not "siding" with anyone. Everyone who has posted here has given you handclaps. I do congratulate you for your efforts. Better than me, otherwise I wouldn't have a BP kit. I'd have a Dragonbreath kit haha. But Im not a welder nor do I have the time to learn or design a kit, that's why I did go with a BP kit. I have followed BP since his user name was BoostedProbe on the 350z forums lol. I was sold back then.

Back on topic, you mentioned Z Nationals. I plan on attending. If you go im sure I'll meet you there. When are you planning on getting tuned?

I will be there as well, would love to meet all of you guys.

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We should all have shirts made with our usernames on it so we know who everyone is lol.

1. $1500.00 cheaper is easy i spent $5600 on mine and thats the BB turbo, fuel return,1000cc, 750cc injectors, clutch and enough stainless steel and aluminum that i built 5 different manifold and 2 complete sets of charge pipes. so i'm 150% sure i can build it for less. i can post a price list if you would like cuz yes i have every price from my build. as far as everything that is on the car right now nothing extra you can drop the price another 1k.

2. for you statment saying i have never put a complete kit together. i kno i have seen ur name at the bottom of my thread pretty offen and my kit is complete and driving (just waiting on a dyno time from Z1)and for understand the actual cost/time/effort necessary to build yes i do cuz i built it. working 80hrs a week going to feild for 30days at a time i'm a E-6 in the ARMY you can look up how much i make it's not much thats y i didnt buy any other kits and i could do it for cheaper. my kit is built its here if you would like i can post a video everyday i drive to work and run the hell out of it. but it's not made up. ur acting like my car is not running the streets and i'm prtty sure i designed cahrge pipes that have posted the lowest maf readings yet on a z at 10.5psi..i'm not a rookie at building cars. i can show tons of cars i have built this was my first custom turbo kit...

3. Yes stuff adds up i know...but it's not that bad when plan out something so long and add in extra cost that's the reason i spared a extra 1k for the build that i really didnt need to. and i went thru 2 tall tanks of argon and yes i back purged my welds to.

4. like i said i can show what ever you want price list. where i buy it from i'll give to you. i work with companys and they work with me...I'm not dumb stupid somethimes but not dumb. so if u want to keep this war going thats fine but dont get up set...i have all the proof behind everything i did and the price....and i just made a deal with Real Street performance i can lower the price a lil more...do what you want but my kit is here and if no one buys it i dont care....I built my kit with my Hands and i'm proud of what i did. hate me if you want I dont care.

I love his work to and have followed him for a long time...i dont have a problem with him. If i go i would love to meet up i have a lil crew of about 5 370z and 3 350z i plan to role with. as for dyno waiting on jon to call me monday to try and get there around the 15th.

it would be nice to meet some people from the forums


ya

BP i would love to work with you But i'm pretty sure that was sarcastic...