* AAM Competition's 370Z Twin Turbocharger System *

ANMVQ · 09-12-2014, 02:16 PM

Can I stop reading this thread, LOL I want this so bad its not funny. Great work Max !!

COSMO · 09-12-2014, 02:39 PM

Why isn't aam doing any dyno's and willing to show something rather than trying to hype it up.

theDreamer · 09-12-2014, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MaxPowered

Hey everyone - it's about time for some updates don't you think?

We have some results from one of our first R & D cars, a 2014 Nismo 370Z.
No need for any introductions, I'll just come out with the dyno chart and dyno video. Please let me know if you have any questions. As we continue through this last phase of our R & D we are preparing for our official release which means presale information will be released shortly.

AAMC 370Z Twin Turbo System - YouTube
(sorry for the cell phone video quality)

I did want to point out that at the time this dyno was done we were running at 12psi. The Turbocharger systems will be shipping with a target of 8-9 psi and target wheel HP numbers should be closer to the 480-540 range. This turbocharger system is very capable of larger numbers as you can see in the video, but we strongly suggest to install some supporting modifications before dialing the boost up any more than the 8-9psi we are initially targeting.

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Originally Posted by COSMO

Why isn't aam doing any dyno's and willing to show something rather than trying to hype it up.

^Dyno graph and video
Also, this is car number 1, they said more will be done over the next few weeks to be added to the finished cars.

COSMO · 09-13-2014, 06:25 PM

Can't wait to see an independent dyno..

FPenvy · 09-15-2014, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by COSMO

Can't wait to see an independent dyno..

1slow370 · 09-15-2014, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

I am actually taking cosmo's side on this, they even admitted that the graph they posted is inflated compared to the final kit.

FPenvy · 09-15-2014, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370

I am actually taking cosmo's side on this, they even admitted that the graph they posted is inflated compared to the final kit.

thats based on ths psi they ran here vs them not wanting to blow peoples engines......*cough*cosmo*cough*......and shipping the kit to only run using around 8-9psi as stated in max's post. yes then you would be correct in "inflated numbers"

meerly all i was saying is that at 12psi on 93 octane it puped out over 600whp is awesome. and yes not everyone will use 12psi or higher BUT the fact that this kit did that out of the box is the important point to remember.

1slow370 · 09-15-2014, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

thats based on ths psi they ran here vs them not wanting to blow peoples engines......*cough*cosmo*cough*......and shipping the kit to only run using around 8-9psi as stated in max's post. yes then you would be correct in "inflated numbers"

meerly all i was saying is that at 12psi on 93 octane it puped out over 600whp is awesome. and yes not everyone will use 12psi or higher BUT the fact that this kit did that out of the box is the important point to remember.

yes that is what i meant when they said "we did this dyno with 12 psi so the numbers are higher than the kits we are going to ship, you need extra supporting mods to do this(paraphrased)" that is my definition of inflated numbers. Now this next part is just an opinion but if you want to sell a turbo kit priced up in the 10k club it had better be capable of doing 600whp out the box.

Edit: also cosmo's car blew up cuz he can't read japanese and hooked his boost controller up wrong.

Aviator44 · 09-15-2014, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370

I am actually taking cosmo's side on this, they even admitted that the graph they posted is inflated compared to the final kit.

The graph shows that the kit was able to produce 600+ rwhp on stock internals and pump gas if set at high boost. It is up to the individual on whether or not they choose to run their car at the factory set 8-9 range, or increase boost to 12+. To achieve a reasonable ratio between performance and reliability it makes sense that they would ship the kits at a "safe" boost level.

ROBERT1183 · 09-15-2014, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by cosmo

can't wait to see an independent dyno..

will be picking mine up hopefully next week. Will let you guys know

1slow370 · 09-15-2014, 07:26 PM

Ok going on your lines of thinking here, an important question would be was the 600hp dyno done on the same wastegate spring as the final kit? and what is the minimum boost you will be able to run on this kit for valet and girlfriend's driving my car tunes?

Aviator44 · 09-15-2014, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370

Ok going on your lines of thinking here, an important question would be was the 600hp dyno done on the same wastegate spring as the final kit? and what is the minimum boost you will be able to run on this kit for valet and girlfriend's driving my car tunes?

The EFR6758 has an adjustable integrated wastegate. There are three different wastegates it can run. The range of adjustability depends on which wastegate is installed. The ranges are as follows:

Low boost: 4psi-14.7psi
Medium boost: 9psi-20psi
High boost: 16psi-32psi

I do not know which wastegate they are shipping with the kits. Even the lowest boost wastegate is capable of producing the hp results posted earlier though. Max can answer your question better than I can but I hope this helps.

aamc@AAMComp · 09-17-2014, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Aviator44

The EFR6758 has an adjustable integrated wastegate. There are three different wastegates it can run. The range of adjustability depends on which wastegate is installed. The ranges are as follows:

Low boost: 4psi-14.7psi
Medium boost: 9psi-20psi
High boost: 16psi-32psi

I do not know which wastegate they are shipping with the kits. Even the lowest boost wastegate is capable of producing the hp results posted earlier though. Max can answer your question better than I can but I hope this helps.

Thanks Aviator44!

FPenvy · 09-16-2014, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370

Ok going on your lines of thinking here, an important question would be was the 600hp dyno done on the same wastegate spring as the final kit? and what is the minimum boost you will be able to run on this kit for valet and girlfriend's driving my car tunes?

i highlghted your first problem.......

aamc@AAMComp · 09-17-2014, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370

Ok going on your lines of thinking here, an important question would be was the 600hp dyno done on the same wastegate spring as the final kit? and what is the minimum boost you will be able to run on this kit for valet and girlfriend's driving my car tunes?

Great question! Although I don't believe I would let any Valet drive my turbocharged Z (used to be a valet myself way back in the day) - I would give them the extra $10 to park it up front so they can drool over it instead of taking 1/8" of rubber off my tires.

The BorgWarner EFR Turbochargers we use come with the medium boost actuator which we then take off and replace with the low boost actuators.

To answer your question, the White Nismo which was seen in the dyno video/graph utilized the very same low boost actuator which are included in the turbocharger system.

Regarding minimum boost - we just had a 350Z leave yesterday with the same AAM Competition BorgWarner Turbocharger System (aside from 350Z vs. 370Z differences) set to 5psi. We set it a bit lower because it was an automatic with close to 100k miles on the engine. I will also add that he drove 10+ hours home right after picking up the vehicle - not a bad durability test right off the bat!

Aviator44's numbers on boost limitations are right on point( I am also re verifying with BW), but theoretically speaking each of those actuators should be able to support up to 50% more boost than the numbers dictate.
Edit: Here is the boost actuator limitations chart from BorgWarner:

For customer who want to run a much higher boost, we will have both the medium and high boost actuators available but for the majority of all applications the low boost actuators should suffice.

good questions!

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