* AAM Competition's 370Z Twin Turbocharger System *

ROBERT1183 · 10-21-2014, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ANMVQ

no, I will tho can't see that from work

yeah my job does that too. bastards!!!! lol its on aam competitions fb page

tonyHTX · 10-21-2014, 02:08 PM

^ I saw the video awhile back, that's how I stalked you! The only thing I'm sad about is no traditional BOV on the system. While I understand the benefits and purpose of the CRV, the BOV salute automatically adds +10 cool points to street cred. HAHA

ROBERT1183 · 10-21-2014, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyHTX

^ I saw the video awhile back, that's how I stalked you! The only thing I'm sad about is no traditional BOV on the system. While I understand the benefits and purpose of the CRV, the BOV salute automatically adds +10 cool points to street cred. HAHA

hahaha yeah I hear ya but when shifting between gears you can hear it. not so much when reving at idle

tonyHTX · 10-21-2014, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ROBERT1183

hahaha yeah I hear ya but when shifting between gears you can hear it. not so much when reving at idle

Looks like the Turbosmart Shortie Kompact Series has a Dual Port BOV (50% Atmospheric and 50% CRV) that is supposed to work with the EFRs. It looks to be taller than the CRV that comes included though so clearance may or may not be an issue. Maybe you can have a look when you get it on the lift? Or maybe Max might be able to give some insight?

Could be an option for those that want a little bit of both worlds.

ANMVQ · 10-22-2014, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by tonyHTX

Looks like the Turbosmart Shortie Kompact Series has a Dual Port BOV (50% Atmospheric and 50% CRV) that is supposed to work with the EFRs. It looks to be taller than the CRV that comes included though so clearance may or may not be an issue. Maybe you can have a look when you get it on the lift? Or maybe Max might be able to give some insight?

Could be an option for those that want a little bit of both worlds.

great BPV I had this on my Stillen SC sounded super!

FPenvy · 10-22-2014, 08:08 AM

I wonder if the gfb's BOVs most people use on the GTR's would work with this setup?

quick twist and it can be adjusted for how much recirculation or how much vent to atmosphere can be done whenever you want. ell when stopped since its a manual change lol

Patrick@AAMComp · 10-22-2014, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by tonyHTX

Looks like the Turbosmart Shortie Kompact Series has a Dual Port BOV (50% Atmospheric and 50% CRV) that is supposed to work with the EFRs. It looks to be taller than the CRV that comes included though so clearance may or may not be an issue. Maybe you can have a look when you get it on the lift? Or maybe Max might be able to give some insight?

Could be an option for those that want a little bit of both worlds.

Borg Warner actually makes a disabling cover plate that can be installed to seal off the CRV.

ROBERT1183 · 10-22-2014, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Jason@AAMComp

Borg Warner actually makes a disabling cover plate that can be installed to seal off the CRV.

Doesn't affect anything but make the blow off louder right?

Patrick@AAMComp · 10-22-2014, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ROBERT1183

Doesn't affect anything but make the blow off louder right?

The disabling cover plate seals the recirculating port and an external BOV would have to be installed. Flanges would need to be welded in for the external BOVs. The CRV is designed to keep the MAF happy and assists in keeping the turbos spooled in between gears.

Does that help?

ROBERT1183 · 10-22-2014, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Jason@AAMComp

Borg Warner actually makes a disabling cover plate that can be installed to seal off the CRV.

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Originally Posted by Jason@AAMComp

The disabling cover plate seals the recirculating port and an external BOV would have to be installed. Flanges would need to be welded in for the external BOVs. The CRV is designed to keep the MAF happy and assists in keeping the turbos spooled in between gears.

Does that help?

yes that does,

tonyHTX · 10-22-2014, 12:56 PM

^ That's why I suggested the 50/50 dual port bov. I think one can get a little bit of both worlds using it. Also seems like it would be a little less of a hassle than putting in the disabling cover and getting flanges welded on.

Jason, do you think there is not enough clearance for the dual port bov - is that why you suggest using the disabling cover?

Patrick@AAMComp · 10-22-2014, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyHTX

^ That's why I suggested the 50/50 dual port bov. I think one can get a little bit of both worlds using it. Also seems like it would be a little less of a hassle than putting in the disabling cover and getting flanges welded on.

Jason, do you think there is not enough clearance for the dual port bov - is that why you suggest using the disabling cover?

As you can see there isn't a lot of room to work with. Without having something like the Kompact Shortie on hand to test fit, we really can't tell at this time.

We do know the disabling kit will fit for those looking to go with BOVs.

kayha12 · 10-22-2014, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyHTX

^ That's why I suggested the 50/50 dual port bov. I think one can get a little bit of both worlds using it. Also seems like it would be a little less of a hassle than putting in the disabling cover and getting flanges welded on.

Jason, do you think there is not enough clearance for the dual port bov - is that why you suggest using the disabling cover?

There might be some confusion here. The turbos AAM use have essentially a "built in" blow off valve for better lack of term. In order to run a traditional blow off valve, you would have to first disable/block the pre-existing one on the BW turbos, at which you can cut the intecooler piping, weld a BOV flange on, and mount whatever BOV you want to go with from there.

Sort of like turbos that have internal wastegatee. In order to go external, you first need to disable the internal gate, by some bracket, or welding it shut, then you figure out where to mount your external, mount it, and so forth, you get the idea.

tonyHTX · 10-22-2014, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by kayha12

There might be some confusion here. The turbos AAM use have essentially a "built in" blow off valve for better lack of term. In order to run a traditional blow off valve, you would have to first disable/block the pre-existing one on the BW turbos, at which you can cut the intecooler piping, weld a BOV flange on, and mount whatever BOV you want to go with from there.

Sort of like turbos that have internal wastegatee. In order to go external, you first need to disable the internal gate, by some bracket, or welding it shut, then you figure out where to mount your external, mount it, and so forth, you get the idea.

Oh no confusion, per the description the Kompact Shortie I am talking about says:

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Originally Posted by http://www.turbosmartusa.com/product/kompact-dual-port-shortie

Turbosmart Shortie Kompact Series valves have been specifically designed to suit BorgWarner EFR and KKK turbos.

Designed as a bolt-on replacement of the factory valve on all BorgWarner EFR, KKK and Ecoboost turbos, the Kompact Shortie Dual Port provides better boost response and greater boost handling capability.

The main difference is that the Kompact Shortie can be set to 100% CRV or 50% CRV and 50% atmospheric.

I kind of think it won't fit seeing Jason's picture though - the disabling cover and cutting/welding flanges on may be the way to go.

aamc@AAMComp · 10-23-2014, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by tonyHTX

Looks like the Turbosmart Shortie Kompact Series has a Dual Port BOV (50% Atmospheric and 50% CRV) that is supposed to work with the EFRs. It looks to be taller than the CRV that comes included though so clearance may or may not be an issue. Maybe you can have a look when you get it on the lift? Or maybe Max might be able to give some insight?

Could be an option for those that want a little bit of both worlds.

Just to clear a few things up on this as I don't want there to be any confusion.

There is no way that fit, at least i'm 95% sure it would not. As shown in Jason's picture (thanks Jason) space is limited and it would be too long/tall.

If you wanted to utilize a traditional BOV you would need to install the BorgWarner block off plate (previously mentioned) and could then install any BOV of your choice (hopefully something of high quality) in the upper intercooler piping.

Most of what I just said was previously mentioned but I just wanted to make sure there was no confusion on this topic.

I can try to get some audio of the integrated BorgWarner CRV so you can hear what it sounds like. It's definitely noticeable but not to the audible level of a traditional BOV.

10-21-2014, 02:08 PM	#257 (permalink)
tonyHTX Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Houston Posts: 254 Drives: Race, Repair, Repeat Rep Power: 4638	^ I saw the video awhile back, that's how I stalked you! The only thing I'm sad about is no traditional BOV on the system. While I understand the benefits and purpose of the CRV, the BOV salute automatically adds +10 cool points to street cred. HAHA __________________ 2007 G37S [VQ37HR] Sedan 6MT - Fast Intentions Stage 3 TT - @ttv36 #tptoons

10-22-2014, 12:56 PM	#266 (permalink)
tonyHTX Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Houston Posts: 254 Drives: Race, Repair, Repeat Rep Power: 4638	^ That's why I suggested the 50/50 dual port bov. I think one can get a little bit of both worlds using it. Also seems like it would be a little less of a hassle than putting in the disabling cover and getting flanges welded on. Jason, do you think there is not enough clearance for the dual port bov - is that why you suggest using the disabling cover? __________________ 2007 G37S [VQ37HR] Sedan 6MT - Fast Intentions Stage 3 TT - @ttv36 #tptoons

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