IP ban. You absolutely can.


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I'm going to kill the banter by saying that it's going to be damn near impossible to IP ban every shop computer, home computer, cell phone, etc. and other places/devices he has access too

TorProject, VPNs, neighbors wifi. The internet is a intricate and very OPEN place. You can't ban him from viewing this site in its entirety. If you don't want people viewing your business don't put it on the internet.

Banning IP ranges is insanely easy. This is a vbulletin board right? It's very easy to profile a single user's logins and as for TOR and VPN access, I think you are giving Sam far too much credit. I'm sure you folks know a lot more about it his sort of thing than me though. Keep thinking no action at all outweighs basic idiot-proofing precautions.

I'll head back home and let you resume the circlejerk though.

Have a good one :)


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No one thinks no action supercedes action, I think we're just realist. Sure Sam should be banned, I agree. But their is no way to keep him from lurking on the forums. And as far as giving Sam too much credit, I think you're underestimating Sam. Thieves are alot smarter then most people tend to credit them for. As far as your circle jerk comment, I'll leave that as a momentary absence of maturity.

Cheers

I would love to actually! I had a hard time trying to figure out how to make it a plug-n-play setup, but with more experience, I realized if I buy an ABS bracket and do a core exchange type of deal, or just buy them outright, I could feasibly make it plug-n-play.

Either way, I'm in my final year of school, so my Z has been in the garage lately. Got about 2k miles on it in the past 3-4 months, lol. Took it out for autoX a few times, that was great.

Regarding the GTM issue, I spoke with a lawyer about the bankruptcy. I don't think I'll have an issue. :tiphat:

Thought I'd post something quick here.

- Paid in full on the first day GTM was officially taking payment for the MHI TT (May 29, 2013) within the hour of them opening that day.

- Waited patiently for updates, didn't call them at all til about 6 months in as I was just reading the forum for updates.

- Once a year of waiting hit I decided it was way too long and I was in contact with my bank asking what could be done to dispute the purchase/charge. They were very helpful and patient with it all as well. Together we both gave GTM another 3 months to come up with something, but after calling Sam on 2 occasions during those 3 months and having him almost seemingly insist that I get my money back I decided to pull the plug.

- As of Sept 18 I got my full refund through my bank. I'm not sure who took the hit on the charge back but I am just happy to receive my money back, and cudos to the rep at the bank for helping me out a ton. FI (or Stillen) here i come!! :icon17:

- Best of luck to anybody else who is in the process of getting their money back from GTM. I was extremely lucky to have had things work out in this manner. I honestly wish I could of gotten my hands on this kit, especially after patiently waiting for so long but I guess it was never ment to be.

how did you pay GTM? direct deposit, wire transfer, credit card, or...?

Just spoke to my credit co. And they are going to refund my $ as credit (because i told them that i want the parts,but at the same time dont want to loose the$) so we wait when sam sends me the kit that $ will be his if not ever then the $ is mine. I hope i dont loose my mhi gb standings with sam. Or i guess the $ is mine.

Not sure why you still have hope on sam. I would of gotten the money back and bought an AAM/FI/BP kit already. You would also get your kit from AAM/FI/BP at record time compared to GTM.

Well am not too crazy on getting the kit cuz i still am not going to install it right away, ill let you guys on a little secret.

I am in the middle of creating titanium rods for vq37vhr and a few other power plants. Until am satisfied with the results that 20g tt kit is useless to me. So i might as well wait.

Of course if the tt kit does not get released by the end of this year, yes i will be looking in to alternative most likely FI kit.

Titanium rods? Must aware me on this. :tup:

Wowsers!

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No you must just be crazy period. That kit is vaporware along with your $$$$$ if you don't get it back while you can.


Good luck to you & remeber
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You need to understand...there is no MHI Turbo Kit and there never will be. All a scam. Get your money back asap.

Exactly this. Anyone who has hope one day they'll get a turbo kit out of this is willfully ignorant. Get your money back before they restructure and you're entitled to nothing. If you don't go get your money back at this point with this much bad news out there, you deserve the nothing you're going to end up with.

Guys, guys relax i have the $ its just in limbo for 14 days, if i get kit $ is his if not $ is mine, but i do have few month to kill anyways.

Yeah i know mhi kits are bs, but i was promised v3 garret tt, wich is more appealing. Yeah i know its a lie, personally i don't give a F.

I will have that $ in 14 days. Ill post followups.

Sam does not have garret kits available either.. waiting on cast parts from china still.

Reflections on GTM over the years
 

GTM isn't sending anyone a turbo kit. Period. Anyone who thinks they're getting a single bolt from Sam is delusional. Get out and get on the list for another shop's kit.

Do we think the reason he's still waiting on the cast parts is that whoever cast the parts is waiting on final payment? :rofl2:

can anyone advise me on how to get a refund if I did a wire transfer?

Consult a lawyer ......

Listen my Z brother. I think you should try an get your money back now so when the end of the year comes and your current build is over you're ready for the next phase and not waiting. Just imagine how excited you're going to be to put a turbo kit on that built block. Get your money back and order the AAM/FI kit so when your block is finished being built you already have a turbo it waiting to be installed because it's waiting in your garage. Also you still have the option to go GTM route if you want and it's available. But what I'm saying you shouldn't let someone else hold your money get your money back and if Sam holds true to his kit then send the money back again. I think getting your money back is smarter and puts you in a better position. Sam must have offered you a good price if your still waiting.

Never ever pay anybody you don't trust online with wire transfer dude, even vendors. Alawys use credit card or paypal so you get some insurance on your money.

The quality of the kits from AAM/FI/BP are far better than what GTM has offered. I seriously would go with one of them just because of that.

If you are looking for something that isn't pricy but still has quality then consider BP. Granted that you should not go cheap, BP is still a cheaper and great option because it comes with everything you need.

Before I bought my BP kit, I priced out the MHI including supporting mods, 3" downpipe, oil cooler and the price ended being very similar to BP's kit. Then you add in installation cost. If you are doing it yourself then price between the two isn't much. But if you are having a mechanic do it, BP will be far cheaper.

In then end, it is still your money so burn it in a lava pit if you want. LOL

Just remember, 99% of people here are here to inform you and give you guidance if you want.

Geez. Sam screwed me out of 20k. I paid in full for turbo kit and installation and a couple other stuff since I lived pretty close to them. I also had him do a stage 4 transmission job on my G37. He had my car for about 8 months. After about 7 months of no turbo, I told him I wanted out of it. When I finally got my car back he claimed he had installed the turbo kit and told me about it before I said I no longer wanted it. My refund was about $700. He claimed he had to charge me for the installation and removal of the turbo kit, plus the transmission job. Im sure there was never any turbo kit installed, and the transmission never worked. Still waiting on those $700. Anything I can do?

How many more are out there that we don't know about. One day the threat of criminal charges will no longer keep justice in it's holster and hell will be unleashed. May ditches fill with the decomposing corpses of unethical business men. :usa:

I just spent this last weekend at GTM. I met with SAM and the tech actively working on my car. They are actively working on customer cars, putting together everyone's kits to be shipped, working on people's refunds and working to get things right.

I am not saying this as a fanboy or because of any affiliation...

I am saying this as that was what was obvious as fact while I was in the shop... People's names were on boxes with packing lists on them, there were whiteboards with projects on them and what was supposed to happen, Sam had a list of bills and refunds with checklists next to them... It appears they are working to make things right.

For those saying GTM is going bankrupt and we should all abandon ship... This is not the case... GTM as a business is not going anywhere. Were there bad decisions being made? Yes, and Sam is working to rectify the situation and learn from the mistakes.

For those upset about the MHI kit... To be honest Sam should not have opened the GB until after all the dev work was completed... I saw atleast 6+ sets of cast turbo manifold revisions! From talking to Sam a revision and recast could take up to 3 months... In that aspect alone I saw atleast at a minimum 1.5 years worth of revisions from R&D... The same went for the V3 turbo manifolds... I do not believe the kit was ready for the GB and it is definitely a business lesson GTM learned. For those awaiting refunds for this GB you will get your money... I asked Sam on this specific subject and he said they are working on getting refunds out slowly but surely.

The mood in the shop was more towards "let's get it done" attitude.

All in all: I went to check on my car and to get my extra parts and bring them home. I sat down with Sam and asked him many questions. I had Sam show me what was going on in the shop and I made observations while looking for my parts boxes and sorting through what stayed and what I took home. There was no evidence that GTM was in trouble at the shop.

I hope this unbiased update will give some of you better insight to what is going on.

Mike

When you were there did he mention my 4.2 stroker motor with the stage 3 heads ? I spoke to him thursday and he says that he making progress on it.


Z

Uhhh call a lawer dude.

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Yes your motor is being worked on. I saw they were making progress on it but I don't know how far along they were.

Mike

You didn't go in with ear plugs in.. You let him speak..

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One of these things is not like the other.

And who would really trust Sam to tell a customer the depth of their financial woes? How does someone listen to all of that without a boulder-sized grain of salt?

I am not sure what you saw while you were there in regard to things owed to others, but it does make sense that they are trying to make good (as much as possible) with the community. I never liked the way things sounded when I talked to them back in 2010. I don't think anything has change between then and now, other than they got hung up trying to make a quick run of something that needed more work (just like some of their other offerings).

I am sure that they will make good with you, since you talk good about them AND you have spent a lot of money while they used your platform to develop things.

Any way you want to see this, it shows the true colors of this company and it's business practices. That is why I chose to stay away 4 years ago.

Rob

Once a crook always a crook. I hope he does get shut down after the things he put people through. IMO, theres nothing he could possibly do to ever earn my business again. Sounds like he filled your ears with a ton of bs I'm sure bullitt5897...

lawyer up NOW, thats a load of crap.

it's good you are getting your car finished (I hope you really do for your sake), but pretty sure any of the current members wouldn't send any $$ their way for anything. Any new members asking about parts will get sent to the various train wreck threads, pretty sure they are screwed forum wise until next generation Z and most of us are not around anymore. (again not sure how much work came from the forums, would assume a fair bit)

They had a really good thing going with the group buy, but that's completely ruined their rep. Lots of people got completely screwed over and the people who didn't get screwed over, were all the other people saying that we were going to get screwed over lol

To those that think I am cheerleading... I am not. Sam and I have a complex relationship and if you ask him I am a pain in the a$$! However, as a former business owner I know the right questions to ask and when to call bs. This trip was solely about my car and my project. I asked and inquired and dug into these items because it means something to the community... Does it benefit me to come forward? NO! Actually it does the opposite! Sam holds his cards close to his chest. I have learned how to work with Sam and how to get the information I needed.

So to recap I was not fed b.s. I pulled information from Sam as well as other sources to validate. I also was physically in the building and walking through the operations. This is something about 70+% of you cannot claim...

so yes take what I say with a grain of salt but also know I have dealt with Sam more than probably half of the members of the forums combined... No offense taken here by me and I would be just as skeptical as many of you are. But remember I am an OG here and I have always been very straight with people and members...

This story does not make sense...

Can you go into more detail of what happened? From what you have posted it sounds as the following happened:

You bought a TT kit and extras (what extras? This could impact your install)
You bought a transmission upgrade

You sent your car in for installation of the TT kit, upgrade of your transmission and installation of extra parts.

After 7 months you were unsatisfied with the progress and requested the car be returned to you.

(There is a gap as to what happened next as apparent in your post quoted above)

From your post I am deducting that Sam uninstalled the kit and transmission and returned you the car.

Based off what you posted Sam only charged you for the initial tear down and install amount of $700... This is the amount you claim he did not refund you and kept. This is completely legitimate as you bought a product and service then cancelled after work began... Most companies would have charged a restocking fee if you bought parts from them. This is the same thing. Now a TT kit install will cost you north of $2k+ Not to mention the install of the upgraded transmission so a $700 fee is a bargain... They could have kept more if they were greedy. I have known shops to keep all the install costs just to penalize the customer.

With all that said: there are a lot of gaps in this story and in order for you to get correct advice or answers you may want to be complete in your story...

I am curious how this really played out... And how Sam took 20k from you... I don't think he actually took 20k from you but rather you are upset over A $700 dispute... Am I correct in my thinking?

He's saying his refund was $700, so he lost $19,300