Nissan 370Z Forum  

Opinion of Building Motor for TT

I would also keep in mind reliability , more power more issues..

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z Tech Area > Engine & Drivetrain > Forced Induction


Like Tree35Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-10-2014, 07:57 AM   #1 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
COSMO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: FL
Posts: 1,816
Drives: 2012 Touring GTM TT
Rep Power: 20
COSMO has a reputation beyond reputeCOSMO has a reputation beyond reputeCOSMO has a reputation beyond reputeCOSMO has a reputation beyond reputeCOSMO has a reputation beyond reputeCOSMO has a reputation beyond reputeCOSMO has a reputation beyond reputeCOSMO has a reputation beyond reputeCOSMO has a reputation beyond reputeCOSMO has a reputation beyond reputeCOSMO has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I would also keep in mind reliability , more power more issues..
VSS370z likes this.
COSMO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2014, 08:47 AM   #2 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
VSS370z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Puerto Rico
Posts: 380
Drives: 09 Nissan 370z CY M6
Rep Power: 14
VSS370z has a spectacular aura aboutVSS370z has a spectacular aura aboutVSS370z has a spectacular aura about
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by COSMO View Post
I would also keep in mind reliability , more power more issues..
Still contemplating which route to take. Thank for your thoughts on this Cosmo
COSMO likes this.
VSS370z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2014, 03:21 PM   #3 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
VSS370z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Puerto Rico
Posts: 380
Drives: 09 Nissan 370z CY M6
Rep Power: 14
VSS370z has a spectacular aura aboutVSS370z has a spectacular aura aboutVSS370z has a spectacular aura about
Default

Ok guys is it really necessary to replace the OEM parts i mention on the first page if i build the motor with just 26,200 miles on it? Obviously that question would be better answer by checking the engine first like The Dreamer mention but i still think is pointless, just a thought.
VSS370z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2014, 03:26 PM   #4 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Southwest FL
Posts: 1,374
Drives: G37S
Rep Power: 29
elperuano has a reputation beyond reputeelperuano has a reputation beyond reputeelperuano has a reputation beyond reputeelperuano has a reputation beyond reputeelperuano has a reputation beyond reputeelperuano has a reputation beyond reputeelperuano has a reputation beyond reputeelperuano has a reputation beyond reputeelperuano has a reputation beyond reputeelperuano has a reputation beyond reputeelperuano has a reputation beyond repute
Default

You're adding boost to a NA car. Just be careful and keep boost low if you're that worried.
VSS370z likes this.
elperuano is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2014, 04:47 PM   #5 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Chicago
Posts: 3,669
Drives: 370
Rep Power: 974724
phunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond repute
Default

If you are just going to run around with 500rwhp, than you have a better chance at reliability with the stock engine than you do a built one. You also have a far, far greater chance of being able to enjoy your car anytime soon if you stick with the stock engine.

Building the engine in a 370z is adding too much potential for human error or mistakes to justify attempting it for power levels that have been proven reliable in well tuned and well put together cars with the stock engine. We have seen very few engine failures in this community and I am not certain if we have even seen one that was strictly from "too much power".

Having been in the VQ Z scene since it started, I can say that it is not uncommon for the heavier projects to sort of fade away into the darkness. Shops fly past deadlines, engine assembly problems haunt and the car is in the shop more than its on the road, etc etc etc. The engine and the electronics in these cars are more complex than most shops are used to, and the information is few and far between.

The only well paved path with these cars is a 450-600rwhp stock engine setup. Anything past there, and you are risking serious trouble unless you are a highly qualified DIY'er or have the utmost confidence in your shop/tuner.
__________________
Charles @ CJ Motorsports : Website | Facebook | Instagram | YouTube
Home of the 9 second, stock longblock, stock drivetrain 6MT 370z. 9.91 @ 142mph

Last edited by phunk; 04-10-2014 at 04:51 PM.
phunk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2014, 05:19 PM   #6 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
VSS370z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Puerto Rico
Posts: 380
Drives: 09 Nissan 370z CY M6
Rep Power: 14
VSS370z has a spectacular aura aboutVSS370z has a spectacular aura aboutVSS370z has a spectacular aura about
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by phunk View Post
If you are just going to run around with 500rwhp, than you have a better chance at reliability with the stock engine than you do a built one. You also have a far, far greater chance of being able to enjoy your car anytime soon if you stick with the stock engine.

Building the engine in a 370z is adding too much potential for human error or mistakes to justify attempting it for power levels that have been proven reliable in well tuned and well put together cars with the stock engine. We have seen very few engine failures in this community and I am not certain if we have even seen one that was strictly from "too much power".

Having been in the VQ Z scene since it started, I can say that it is not uncommon for the heavier projects to sort of fade away into the darkness. Shops fly past deadlines, engine assembly problems haunt and the car is in the shop more than its on the road, etc etc etc. The engine and the electronics in these cars are more complex than most shops are used to, and the information is few and far between.

The only well paved path with these cars is a 450-600rwhp stock engine setup. Anything past there, and you are risking serious trouble unless you are a highly qualified DIY'er or have the utmost confidence in your shop/tuner.
Thanks Charles for the good info. I'll do that just install the kit,get a good tune and have fun. Do like your fuel system kit, been thinking of adding it to my build.
VSS370z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2014, 06:33 PM   #7 (permalink)
Track Member
 
Super Werty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: AZ
Posts: 668
Drives: '13 Sport
Rep Power: 14
Super Werty is just really niceSuper Werty is just really niceSuper Werty is just really niceSuper Werty is just really niceSuper Werty is just really nice
Send a message via ICQ to Super Werty
Default

completely agree with phunk. building engines requires someone highly reliable..which usually ends up being harder than it sounds

Fast Intentions should build engines for customers..
Nixlimited and VSS370z like this.
__________________
The Build
Super Werty is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-10-2014, 06:39 PM   #8 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
VSS370z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Puerto Rico
Posts: 380
Drives: 09 Nissan 370z CY M6
Rep Power: 14
VSS370z has a spectacular aura aboutVSS370z has a spectacular aura aboutVSS370z has a spectacular aura about
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Super Werty View Post
completely agree with phunk. building engines requires someone highly reliable..which usually ends up being harder than it sounds

Fast Intentions should build engines for customers..
That should be standard!
VSS370z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2014, 07:08 AM   #9 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: California
Posts: 57
Drives: 2012 G37 IPL 7AT TT
Rep Power: 14
Wattles is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Super Werty View Post
completely agree with phunk. building engines requires someone highly reliable..which usually ends up being harder than it
Agree +1 here too!!
__________________
2012 G37 IPL 7AT | GTM Stage 1 Long Block | GTM Stage 1 Garett TT | Blitz SBC typeR Boost Controller | GTM Stage 4 Transmission | Tial BOV | Fast Intentions exhaust | GTM 8qt Oil Pan | 583whp/484trq @ 13psi
Wattles is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2014, 04:32 PM   #10 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
VSS370z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Puerto Rico
Posts: 380
Drives: 09 Nissan 370z CY M6
Rep Power: 14
VSS370z has a spectacular aura aboutVSS370z has a spectacular aura aboutVSS370z has a spectacular aura about
Default

Ok just a simple question, where the heck can i get ARP main studs from a vendor? I google it and all i get are the L19 head studs but no main studs. I only found them on GTM website which sucks for obvious reasons
VSS370z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2014, 07:11 PM   #11 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Chicago
Posts: 3,669
Drives: 370
Rep Power: 974724
phunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond repute
Default

A real good policy is to never build the motor that is in the car. Always get a core, and once the built engine is 100% ready to swap in... only then take the car apart. That is how you avoid downtime and/or miserable owners. Delays will always pop up. If the car is sitting on jack stands during all this... forget it! aint nobody got time for that.
gbrettin, Eagle and VSS370z like this.
__________________
Charles @ CJ Motorsports : Website | Facebook | Instagram | YouTube
Home of the 9 second, stock longblock, stock drivetrain 6MT 370z. 9.91 @ 142mph
phunk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2014, 07:17 PM   #12 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Southwest FL
Posts: 1,374
Drives: G37S
Rep Power: 29
elperuano has a reputation beyond reputeelperuano has a reputation beyond reputeelperuano has a reputation beyond reputeelperuano has a reputation beyond reputeelperuano has a reputation beyond reputeelperuano has a reputation beyond reputeelperuano has a reputation beyond reputeelperuano has a reputation beyond reputeelperuano has a reputation beyond reputeelperuano has a reputation beyond reputeelperuano has a reputation beyond repute
Default

There are delays, then there is a gtm kinda delay.
elperuano is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2014, 09:12 PM   #13 (permalink)
Base Member
 
KeVoH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Puerto Rico
Posts: 239
Drives: 11 Nissan 370Z SP M6
Rep Power: 14
KeVoH will become famous soon enough
Default

Greetings from PR!, i want a ride!!! hahah best of luck man
VSS370z likes this.
__________________
|| Stillen Gen.3 || Fast Intentions CBE || Brembo BBK || Motordyne M370 || Tommy Kaira || EVO-R Fog Light || Carbon Signal Add-on Spoiler || GTR Start Button || Carbon Element Cooling Plate and Compartments || Powder Coated Sport Rays
KeVoH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2014, 09:21 PM   #14 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
VSS370z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Puerto Rico
Posts: 380
Drives: 09 Nissan 370z CY M6
Rep Power: 14
VSS370z has a spectacular aura aboutVSS370z has a spectacular aura aboutVSS370z has a spectacular aura about
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by KeVoH View Post
Greetings from PR!, i want a ride!!! hahah best of luck man
Greetings from PR fellow z owner
VSS370z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2014, 11:31 PM   #15 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Chicago
Posts: 3,669
Drives: 370
Rep Power: 974724
phunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond reputephunk has a reputation beyond repute
Default

2007-2008 Nissan 350zARP VQ35 L19 Head & Main Stud Kit

^^ For HR. I believe the same are used for VHR... can anyone confirm? Ive never built a HR.
__________________
Charles @ CJ Motorsports : Website | Facebook | Instagram | YouTube
Home of the 9 second, stock longblock, stock drivetrain 6MT 370z. 9.91 @ 142mph
phunk is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Building up the engine AlexRaymond19 Engine & Drivetrain 21 07-18-2013 07:25 PM
Another car I'm building... TypeOne Other Vehicles 23 05-09-2011 11:04 AM
Building everything from scratch armensti Audio & Video 8 02-02-2010 09:45 PM
Places to building speakers labskaus Audio & Video 6 03-09-2009 05:47 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:47 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2