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VSS370z 04-09-2014 06:06 PM

Opinion of Building Motor for TT
 
Well lets open another stupid thread about building motor. I will have a shop installing my F.I. TT in 2 weeks and they suggested i build the motor as well. I only have 26,200 miles N/A but i have really beat the **** out of my car in those miles. I have read pretty much everything in this forum about the possible limits of the stock motor and what is needed and to keep in check to run properly with a twin turbo and bla bla bla. Here is were i want you guys opinion. They quote it me:
Labor include TT install and build engine
K1 Connecting Rods
Wiseco Pistons
OEM Engine Gasket Kit
OEM Rod Bearings
OEM Cyl Head Bolts
Plus tuning and a few other things done to the motor
Everything above for $6,900. They also quote it me $3,200 just for TT install and tunning if i want to go that route. For now i am just looking for around 475-500whp and at those power levels building is not necessary but damn the prices have got me thinking plus having peace of mind is not that bad either. What do you guys think?

TerribleONE 04-09-2014 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by VSS370z (Post 2775268)
Well lets open another stupid thread about building motor. I will have a shop installing my F.I. TT in 2 weeks and they suggested i build the motor as well. I only have 26,200 miles N/A but i have really beat the **** out of my car in those miles. I have read pretty much everything in this forum about the possible limits of the stock motor and what is needed and to keep in check to run properly with a twin turbo and bla bla bla. Here is were i want you guys opinion. They quote it me:
Labor include TT install and build engine
K1 Connecting Rods
Wiseco Pistons
OEM Engine Gasket Kit
OEM Rod Bearings
OEM Cyl Head Bolts
Plus tuning and a few other things done to the motor
Everything above for $6,900. They also quote it me $3,200 just for TT install and tunning if i want to go that route. For now i am just looking for around 475-500whp and at those power levels building is not necessary but damn the prices have got me thinking plus having peace of mind is not that bad either. What do you guys think?

If it's not gonna hurt you financially I say go for it.

jwick 04-09-2014 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 2775271)
If it's not gonna hurt you financially I say go for it.

:iagree:

If you pop it later you'll be paying labor again to pull the motor.

VSS370z 04-09-2014 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwick (Post 2775273)
:iagree:

If you pop it later you'll be paying labor again to pull the motor.

Thats exactly what they told me. That is why i am thinking of doing everything now even if its seems pointless building the motor for the power levels i am looking for.

TerribleONE 04-09-2014 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by VSS370z (Post 2775292)
Thats exactly what they told me. That is why i am thinking of doing everything now even if its seems pointless building the motor for the power levels i am looking for.

Your going to want to turn the boost up.. Trust me :driving:

On top of that, you will be able to beat it up all day long at 500whp with no worries at all.

theDreamer 04-09-2014 06:39 PM

My first reaction is the shop is trying to sell you something you do not need, even if you have beaten on the motor. Before jumping the gun you can have the engine checked out, compression test, inspect all the plugs and get a camera inside, etc.

I agree, the cost seems like a good deal and hard to pass up, but what reputation does this shop have for building VQ motors (or any motors)? Do you plan to take this car around a track a bunch or drag racing?

VSS370z 04-09-2014 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 2775300)
My first reaction is the shop is trying to sell you something you do not need, even if you have beaten on the motor. Before jumping the gun you can have the engine checked out, compression test, inspect all the plugs and get a camera inside, etc.

I agree, the cost seems like a good deal and hard to pass up, but what reputation does this shop have for building VQ motors (or any motors)? Do you plan to take this car around a track a bunch or drag racing?

I agree with you dreamer. The shop is the most recognize here in Puerto Rico for building motors for the GT-R and everything nissan including the VQ motors and they build and tune european cars as well. Plus in my opinion they have the best uprev tuner in the island. I may drag race ones or twice but i am not that crazy of a fan, i just tend to beat on the car at every oportunity i can get as it is that is why i have been contemplating on building the motor now cause i have a feeling i will pop it at some point.

Rusty 04-09-2014 07:08 PM

OP. If you decide on the built motor. Go with ARP fasteners too, and a clutch set-up to handle the power. ;)

VSS370z 04-09-2014 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 2775361)
OP. If you decide on the built motor. Go with ARP fasteners too, and a clutch set-up to handle the power. ;)

Thanks for the suggestion :tiphat: Already running with the specialty Z max street clutch and limited slip differential and whiteline bushings. I will probably take The Dreamer suggestion but thanks a lot to all of you guys for your guys. Still accepting opinions :happydance:

TopgunZ 04-09-2014 08:44 PM

Walk in with some nice bearings, studs, and have them use those instead.

Hell yeah! Id take a built bottom end for $4k. Especially since they are charging that much for the install. If you want to do it in the future it will cost twice that at least.

theDreamer 04-09-2014 08:49 PM

Knowing the shop is good a engine builds makes it sound like a better deal.
I would still advise to just check over the engine before jumping in completely, and also check on what other items will need to go along with the engine build. Like adding a TT kit to the 370z it is more than just the kit, you have other items that will need to be paired with it to get full advantage of the motor.

ZKraken22 04-09-2014 09:44 PM

I think $6,900 is to much. Maybe for what the parts they are using that's a good price. But I've seen good shops offer 6k

Rusty 04-09-2014 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ZKraken22 (Post 2775554)
I think $6,900 is to much. Maybe for what the parts they are using that's a good price. But I've seen good shops offer 6k

Remember where he is at. So one price is good in one location, might be high in another, or low too. ;)

VSS370z 04-09-2014 10:09 PM

Thanks guys really appreciate the input, planning on doing just the twin turbo,supporting mods and obviously have a good conservative tune and just run it like i stole it, what the heck!

elperuano 04-09-2014 10:52 PM

Make sure to get a bigger turbo since ur going built. You won't be limited by the stock block no more, so you'll be able to see some real nice numbers!


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