GT Motorsports: 370Z Supercharger system development

Snakes709 · 09-10-2009, 06:43 PM

i know the pictures showed the engine out with the supercharger but is it required to drop the engine? Because if you dont need to drop the engine it shouldnt take $1000 for install...free if you can do it yourself.

SAM@GTM · 09-10-2009, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snakes709

i know the pictures showed the engine out with the supercharger but is it required to drop the engine? Because if you dont need to drop the engine it shouldnt take $1000 for install...free if you can do it yourself.

The Engine is out to make the R&D a little easier, But it would not be a requirement to preform the install.

Even our turbo kit installation does not require pulling the engine out of the car .

Sam

Togo · 09-10-2009, 07:35 PM

^I'm sure the engine is pulled because they are developing the system and it would be easier this way and less time consuming so they can get the project completed and released.

Hopefully it will be garage DIY do-able, but I know I'll be paying someone (AAM?) to install mine.

Snakes709 · 09-10-2009, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Togo

^I'm sure the engine is pulled because they are developing the system and it would be easier this way and less time consuming so they can get the project completed and released.

Hopefully it will be garage DIY do-able, but I know I'll be paying someone (AAM?) to install mine.

i understand why they pulled it out obviously. But what im saying for us when we buy the kit. The only engine i ever pulled out of a vehical is out of a Leopard C2 Tank...only took 20mins with a 5 ton crane. I dont know if it would be more time consuming for us to install the supercharger with the engine in or with it out of the car...not sure how hard it is to pull a engine out of a car.

Togo · 09-10-2009, 07:43 PM

Well I know nothing about pulling out engines so for me it would be HARD but I suppose if you are that good with a motor and stuff like this it probably isn't tooo too hard. I still suspect that it won't be necessary to pull it but it will probably be a giant PITA!

CCCLXXZ · 09-10-2009, 07:57 PM

I think y'all may be shooting low with a $5k estimate. If you purely base the cost on the supercharger and intercooler, your looking at 2,800 and about 1,000 respectively. Plus brackets, piping and accessories and profit I would say 5,999-6,500 would be fair. Don't forget about fuel and engine management either...

A company by URD makes an identical setup for the 1GR, the Toyota Tacoma, 4Runner and FJ Cruiser motor which is a 4.0L running the C38 and runs about 5,899. It does double the wheel hp from 200ish to 400ish which gives me a promising expectation from this kit.

Underdog Racing Development

Just a wild guess

Nick J.

john370z · 09-10-2009, 08:46 PM

Thanks for the link to URD performance. You are right the supercharger produces great power good torque. Check out the price breakdown:
Base $5,995.00
2 - 10 $3,895.00
11 - 20 $3,895.00
21 - 30 $3,895.00
31 - 40 $3,895.00
41 - 50 $3,895.00

51 - 60 $3,895.00
61 - 70 $3,895.00
71 - 80 $3,895.00
81 - 90 $3,895.00
91 - 100 $3,895.00
Above $3,895.00

I believe this is for the entire kit. I hope we are able to get a similar discount rather than expected to pay ultra-high retail because we are the first to be interested.

$2800 for the blower and another $1000 for the intercooler are at full retail prices. I am sure GTM is getting both for about half. The Tacoma kits that are priced above are similar to what the 370 z will need plus an intercooler and oil cooler.

I think GTM could price it uninstalled for under $6000, but will they try to recoup investment faster by charging more.

I hope not!

Sam I hope you can talk to the upper brass and get an incredible price for you fans on this and other forums. Once the word is out the volume should achieve profits far greater than over priced kits. Just my thought..
John

SAM@GTM · 09-10-2009, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by john370z

Thanks for the link to URD performance. You are right the supercharger produces great power good torque. Check out the price breakdown:
Base $5,995.00
2 - 10 $3,895.00
11 - 20 $3,895.00
21 - 30 $3,895.00
31 - 40 $3,895.00
41 - 50 $3,895.00

51 - 60 $3,895.00
61 - 70 $3,895.00
71 - 80 $3,895.00
81 - 90 $3,895.00
91 - 100 $3,895.00
Above $3,895.00

I believe this is for the entire kit. I hope we are able to get a similar discount rather than expected to pay ultra-high retail because we are the first to be interested.

$2800 for the blower and another $1000 for the intercooler are at full retail prices. I am sure GTM is getting both for about half. The Tacoma kits that are priced above are similar to what the 370 z will need plus an intercooler and oil cooler.

I think GTM could price it uninstalled for under $6000, but will they try to recoup investment faster by charging more.

I hope not!

Sam I hope you can talk to the upper brass and get an incredible price for you fans on this and other forums. Once the word is out the volume should achieve profits far greater than over priced kits. Just my thought..
John

I know that our price will be inline and competitive, It is really hard right now to give any accurate information but if i have to give an educated guess, i think we are going to be between 5500 to 6500 depending on what stage we are talking about

here is an example so you can get an idea, Our GTM 350ZHR turn key turbo kit has the best of everything ... garret turbos(water and oil cooled ball bearing),bar and plate intercooler,Tbolt clams and it does come complete with fuel system and ems for 7495.00

The Greddy turbo kit for the 350ZHR comes with journal bearing turbos (non ball bearing ) tube and fin intercooler no Tbolt clamps no fuel system and no ems solution for 8495.00

Get my point

Sam

racerxj17 · 09-11-2009, 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by john370z

Thanks for the link to URD performance. You are right the supercharger produces great power good torque. Check out the price breakdown:
Base $5,995.00
2 - 10 $3,895.00
11 - 20 $3,895.00
21 - 30 $3,895.00
31 - 40 $3,895.00
41 - 50 $3,895.00

51 - 60 $3,895.00
61 - 70 $3,895.00
71 - 80 $3,895.00
81 - 90 $3,895.00
91 - 100 $3,895.00
Above $3,895.00

I believe this is for the entire kit. I hope we are able to get a similar discount rather than expected to pay ultra-high retail because we are the first to be interested.

$2800 for the blower and another $1000 for the intercooler are at full retail prices. I am sure GTM is getting both for about half. The Tacoma kits that are priced above are similar to what the 370 z will need plus an intercooler and oil cooler.

I think GTM could price it uninstalled for under $6000, but will they try to recoup investment faster by charging more.

I hope not!

Sam I hope you can talk to the upper brass and get an incredible price for you fans on this and other forums. Once the word is out the volume should achieve profits far greater than over priced kits. Just my thought..
John

URD's first rotrex system was 4k, complete, ready to rock and roll. im not so sure why the huge jump in price once the TRD blower came out. I was the VERY first person to have it installed on my truck....was a decent kit. made 311 rwhp with meth on my tacoma that dynoed 192hp stock. ofcourse the TRD blower made 350rwhp on my truck with an assload more TQ....

CCCLXXZ · 09-11-2009, 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by racerxj17

URD's first rotrex system was 4k, complete, ready to rock and roll. im not so sure why the huge jump in price once the TRD blower came out. I was the VERY first person to have it installed on my truck....was a decent kit. made 311 rwhp with meth on my tacoma that dynoed 192hp stock. ofcourse the TRD blower made 350rwhp on my truck with an assload more TQ....

The reason for the jump in price was because URD was originally using a different blower and changed it over to the C38 after seeing the limitation of the first choice. The new blower was able to push the additional 100whp... Not sure on the specs on the original kit but I believe the intercooler was changed as well.

Miss my tacoma

I had a 08 Double Cab in White with a 6" Fabtech Coilover lift on 35s/20s. Ill post a pic if I hunt one down.

Nick J.

racerxj17 · 09-11-2009, 02:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CCCLXXZ

The reason for the jump in price was because URD was originally using a different blower and changed it over to the C38 after seeing the limitation of the first choice. The new blower was able to push the additional 100whp... Not sure on the specs on the original kit but I believe the intercooler was changed as well.

Miss my tacoma

I had a 08 Double Cab in White with a 6" Fabtech Coilover lift on 35s/20s. Ill post a pic if I hunt one down.

Nick J.

they were using the smaller c32 or c30 i dont remember. the intercooler was the same, but they changed the piping. even so, i dont see how that is a 2k price increase, since the blower is not 2k by itself. ill be honest, i only owned the first, and read about the new one so i cant say exactly. either way, bring on the supercharger gtm!

Snakes709 · 09-10-2009, 08:54 PM

if its any more then 6000 im just going to save abit more cash and go twin turbo..lol

m4a1mustang · 09-10-2009, 10:38 PM

I think I get your point. Pricing should be pretty good.

SAM@GTM · 09-10-2009, 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I think I get your point. Pricing should be pretty good.

B1nks · 09-10-2009, 10:53 PM

I would love to have a supercharger for this car but the GTM turbocharged setups are just sooooooooooo sick that it would be hard to decide. <3 GTM's previous work.

09-10-2009, 07:57 PM	#6 (permalink)
CCCLXXZ Base Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chicago Suburbs Posts: 164 Drives: T/S/MB/6 370z Rep Power: 403	I think y'all may be shooting low with a $5k estimate. If you purely base the cost on the supercharger and intercooler, your looking at 2,800 and about 1,000 respectively. Plus brackets, piping and accessories and profit I would say 5,999-6,500 would be fair. Don't forget about fuel and engine management either... A company by URD makes an identical setup for the 1GR, the Toyota Tacoma, 4Runner and FJ Cruiser motor which is a 4.0L running the C38 and runs about 5,899. It does double the wheel hp from 200ish to 400ish which gives me a promising expectation from this kit. Underdog Racing Development Just a wild guess Nick J. __________________ Mods - Maxim Works Exhaust Manifold, FI HFC, Mines Y-Pipe, Saclam Silencer

09-10-2009, 08:46 PM	#7 (permalink)
john370z Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: new mexico Posts: 141 Drives: 2007 335i coupe Rep Power: 285	Thanks for the link to URD performance. You are right the supercharger produces great power good torque. Check out the price breakdown: Base $5,995.00 2 - 10 $3,895.00 11 - 20 $3,895.00 21 - 30 $3,895.00 31 - 40 $3,895.00 41 - 50 $3,895.00 51 - 60 $3,895.00 61 - 70 $3,895.00 71 - 80 $3,895.00 81 - 90 $3,895.00 91 - 100 $3,895.00 Above $3,895.00 I believe this is for the entire kit. I hope we are able to get a similar discount rather than expected to pay ultra-high retail because we are the first to be interested. $2800 for the blower and another $1000 for the intercooler are at full retail prices. I am sure GTM is getting both for about half. The Tacoma kits that are priced above are similar to what the 370 z will need plus an intercooler and oil cooler. I think GTM could price it uninstalled for under $6000, but will they try to recoup investment faster by charging more. I hope not! Sam I hope you can talk to the upper brass and get an incredible price for you fans on this and other forums. Once the word is out the volume should achieve profits far greater than over priced kits. Just my thought.. John __________________ 2009 370Z, Had Berk HFC and un-installed them cuz too noisy!, Stillen CBE, 10mm rear wheel spacer, K&N drop in filters. Blower to come...

09-10-2009, 10:38 PM	#13 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6964	I think I get your point. Pricing should be pretty good. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

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09-10-2009, 06:43 PM	#1 (permalink)
Snakes709 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Edmonton Posts: 1,205 Drives: 2011 Evo-X GSR Rep Power: 19	i know the pictures showed the engine out with the supercharger but is it required to drop the engine? Because if you dont need to drop the engine it shouldnt take $1000 for install...free if you can do it yourself.

09-10-2009, 07:35 PM	#3 (permalink)
Togo A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: E. Northport, NY Posts: 7,597 Drives: Stuff Rep Power: 659	^I'm sure the engine is pulled because they are developing the system and it would be easier this way and less time consuming so they can get the project completed and released. Hopefully it will be garage DIY do-able, but I know I'll be paying someone (AAM?) to install mine.

09-10-2009, 07:43 PM	#5 (permalink)
Togo A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: E. Northport, NY Posts: 7,597 Drives: Stuff Rep Power: 659	Well I know nothing about pulling out engines so for me it would be HARD but I suppose if you are that good with a motor and stuff like this it probably isn't tooo too hard. I still suspect that it won't be necessary to pull it but it will probably be a giant PITA!

09-10-2009, 08:54 PM	#12 (permalink)
Snakes709 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Edmonton Posts: 1,205 Drives: 2011 Evo-X GSR Rep Power: 19	if its any more then 6000 im just going to save abit more cash and go twin turbo..lol

09-10-2009, 10:53 PM	#15 (permalink)
B1nks Track Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Houston,Tx Posts: 721 Drives: 2009 370Z Base 6MT Rep Power: 509	I would love to have a supercharger for this car but the GTM turbocharged setups are just sooooooooooo sick that it would be hard to decide. <3 GTM's previous work.