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budakai 02-16-2010 04:33 PM

Your right....I am just nervious to get it now...that's all...I guess time will tell. I don't want to be the first one to get it that's for sure.

shumby 02-16-2010 04:44 PM

i will have no problem being the first.

RCZ 02-16-2010 04:45 PM

its beyond me how impatient and annoying some people can be. give it a break we know we're all waiting.

kdoske 02-16-2010 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shumby (Post 404207)
i will have no problem being the first.

+1

Z eliminator 02-16-2010 06:07 PM

the first one is coming to Ontario Canada

CBRich 02-16-2010 06:10 PM

Two days? Yep, they gave up completely. Probably threw away all the parts and maybe even the car.

shumby 02-16-2010 06:17 PM

ya and i still hate you for geting the first one.

IvoryG 02-16-2010 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 404208)
its beyond me how impatient and annoying some people can be. give it a break we know we're all waiting.

I couldn't agree more. It's amazing.

JSD-ZX 02-16-2010 07:33 PM

Impatient is one thing, but I wonder what percentage of the complainers will actually buy. Willing to bet when the price isn't unrealistically low for that same group the thread is going to be flooded with negativity.

1slow370 02-16-2010 07:54 PM

Awww dammit you mean it's not gonna cost 4999 installed?

Z eliminator 02-16-2010 07:54 PM

The price is what scares me for im sure its only going to make 95 rwhp on my 7 AT at 6 psig.= 355 to 360 rwhp, At 8 it will be close to 390. it will need a tranny cooler, oil cooler and a shift kit + torque converter. Sam has asured me that 8 lbs is no problem for the engine.

budakai 02-16-2010 08:12 PM

[QUOTE=RCZ;404208]its beyond me how impatient and annoying some people can be. give it a break we know we're all waiting.[/QUOTE

:wtf2:

Z eliminator 02-16-2010 09:12 PM

Its offical,
to put an end to all the wonderful discussion of the GTM SC, I just go off the phone with Sam and ordered the stage 3 kit with the race oil cooler and a tranney cooler. I trust Sam, that it will be shipped shortly when it is totally tested and tuned, I went for the stage 3 as it can be easily changed to a stage 2 if required, We taked about tuning maps and everthing that was relevent to the SC. The target is 10.lbs boost which should make close to 410 to 420 rwhp. It will have berk cats, stillen exhaust,and stillen headers on the car. Its a 370 z sport 7 AT.with 4.08 gears.
To my good friend " shumby " i will post the dyno and email them to you when i have it running.

THE FIRST ONE IS GOING TO CANADA.

Its a done deal.

Z Eliminator

11's here we come in the 1/4 mile.
Soon to be a stock GTR's worst nightmare in the 1/4 mile.

StillenZ 02-16-2010 09:39 PM

lol...u for real?.. I'm pumped

LiquidZ 02-16-2010 10:08 PM

shhh... Sam is viewing the thread now...

StillenZ 02-16-2010 10:19 PM

lol... 10 people patiently waiting... but I don't see Sam anymore lol

edit: sorry 12... forgot about the 2 guests

Z eliminator 02-17-2010 07:15 AM

Yes it's for real.
Stillen Z , have you dynoed your car?

MMC Racing 02-17-2010 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z eliminator (Post 404541)

11's here we come in the 1/4 mile.
Soon to be a stock GTR's worst nightmare in the 1/4 mile.

No such thing.. GT-R's come from the factory with Cobb Access Ports and full exhausts.. :tiphat:

puckshaw 02-17-2010 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z eliminator (Post 404541)
Its offical,
to put an end to all the wonderful discussion of the GTM SC, I just go off the phone with Sam and ordered the stage 3 kit with the race oil cooler and a tranney cooler. I trust Sam, that it will be shipped shortly when it is totally tested and tuned, I went for the stage 3 as it can be easily changed to a stage 2 if required, We taked about tuning maps and everthing that was relevent to the SC. The target is 10.lbs boost which should make close to 410 to 420 rwhp. It will have berk cats, stillen exhaust,and stillen headers on the car. Its a 370 z sport 7 AT.with 4.08 gears.
To my good friend " shumby " i will post the dyno and email them to you when i have it running.

THE FIRST ONE IS GOING TO CANADA.

Its a done deal.

Z Eliminator

11's here we come in the 1/4 mile.
Soon to be a stock GTR's worst nightmare in the 1/4 mile.

Price? :stirthepot:

Zsteve 02-17-2010 09:08 AM

So 410-420 for stage 3 (which is the race stage?), what hp will be stage 2 ? And Im assuming stage 2 is the carb legal one?

jmlenz 02-17-2010 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z eliminator (Post 404541)
Its offical,
to put an end to all the wonderful discussion of the GTM SC, I just go off the phone with Sam and ordered the stage 3 kit with the race oil cooler and a tranney cooler. I trust Sam, that it will be shipped shortly when it is totally tested and tuned, I went for the stage 3 as it can be easily changed to a stage 2 if required, We taked about tuning maps and everthing that was relevent to the SC. The target is 10.lbs boost which should make close to 410 to 420 rwhp. It will have berk cats, stillen exhaust,and stillen headers on the car. Its a 370 z sport 7 AT.with 4.08 gears.
To my good friend " shumby " i will post the dyno and email them to you when i have it running.

THE FIRST ONE IS GOING TO CANADA.

Its a done deal.

Z Eliminator

11's here we come in the 1/4 mile.
Soon to be a stock GTR's worst nightmare in the 1/4 mile.

Wow, someone let the cat out of the bag! I have so many questions for you:stirthepot: Sooo...for the record the 'Stage 3' kit should make 410-420whp @10psi? Thats with HFCs and CBE. On what fuel type? What are the details of Stage 1, 2, etc? Have you been prohibited to talk about price?

RCZ 02-17-2010 01:35 PM

10lbs? really that much? Much less cfm than from the tt I guess.

kdoske 02-17-2010 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 405248)
10lbs? really that much? Much less cfm than from the tt I guess.

that and probably the SC is robbing power to make power.

modme 02-17-2010 02:15 PM

TT for the win!

Togo 02-17-2010 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 404208)
its beyond me how impatient and annoying some people can be. give it a break we know we're all waiting.

:iagree:

2theextreme 02-17-2010 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Togo (Post 405299)
:iagree:

Togo...stop rushing me! :roflpuke2:

Togo 02-17-2010 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2theextreme (Post 405300)
Togo...stop rushing me! :roflpuke2:

:bowrofl::p

Buddy Revell 02-17-2010 04:06 PM

I guess this is a wake-up call for those people who had this "boost is boost" attitude and expected the same power output from a single SC as from a twin-turbo system.

StillenZ 02-17-2010 04:21 PM

Z eliminator - I haven't had my car dynoed yet!! I'm sure I'm running lean as hell but who knows... I was planning on waiting until I made my decision on F.I. and just doing the tune when I do the install.... I need more power though! and SOON!

LOL... can't believe how many people are constantly viewing this thread.

shumby 02-17-2010 04:22 PM

cannot wait for your e-mail z eliminator.

shumby 02-17-2010 04:24 PM

oh but i still hate you. but it is the good type of hate. E-mail me price details too if you are allowed. I got to call Sam in march to see if I can book a install date for end of may first of june. who are you getting to install yours?

kdoske 02-17-2010 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buddy Revell (Post 405433)
I guess this is a wake-up call for those people who had this "boost is boost" attitude and expected the same power output from a single SC as from a twin-turbo system.


I think it has been generally known in this thread that if you want over 450rwhp then go TT. I just wish a Whipple SC could fit under the hood of our Z's. I would love more torque through the entire rpm range rather then 2k and up, which is probably what will be seen with this SC.

This is still a good kit, its cheaper then a TT, will require less maintenance keeping boost, and will start producing boost sooner then the TT. I say if you need over 400-450rwhp then go TT, otherwise go supercharger.

Z eliminator 02-17-2010 04:48 PM

Shumby

PM sent.

Zsteve 02-17-2010 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kdoske (Post 405256)
that and probably the SC is robbing power to make power.

Nature of the beast with SCs I guess.

shumby 02-17-2010 04:54 PM

thanks for the PM's Z

G37Sam 02-17-2010 06:39 PM

WOW! It takes a stage 3 to put down 420whp?

What happened to the initial released estimations, I remember reading numbers in the 600+

RCZ 02-17-2010 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buddy Revell (Post 405433)
I guess this is a wake-up call for those people who had this "boost is boost" attitude and expected the same power output from a single SC as from a twin-turbo system.

It just might be. Could you explain how 5psi manifold pressure aka cyl pressure is different whether its a turbo creating the pressure or a sc creating the pressure?

I am a little confused as to how the same amount of PSI makes more power depending on what is creating that pressure. I always knew that bigger turbos had to work less because they flow more, therefore they can force MORE air into the same space more easily. Thats why a bigger turbo will have a much easier time making 40psi than a tiny one which would have to spin itself into kingdom come to generate 40psi.

However, that hardly explains anything. So please someone explain to me how "boost isnt boost".

Quote:

Originally Posted by G37Sam (Post 405628)
WOW! It takes a stage 3 to put down 420whp?

What happened to the initial released estimations, I remember reading numbers in the 600+

420whp is almost 100% power increase over stock. Can we stop throwing numbers around? There's no backing to these claims. 420whp on some dynos is 350whp on other dynos too. I'm not too thrilled about someone other than the mfg coming out with some real numbers.

Are we to take these numbers seriously GTM? Its funny when numbers are released by a customer before the manufacturer.

NISSNISS370Z 02-17-2010 07:09 PM

Subscribed...fo sho

shumby 02-17-2010 07:13 PM

z eliminator did not say theses were GTM's numbers he is only speculating and said as much in his post.

G37Sam 02-17-2010 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 405669)
It just might be. Could you explain how 5psi manifold pressure aka cyl pressure is different whether its a turbo creating the pressure or a sc creating the pressure?

I am a little confused as to how the same amount of PSI makes more power depending on what is creating that pressure. I always knew that bigger turbos had to work less because they flow more, therefore they can force MORE air into the same space more easily. Thats why a bigger turbo will have a much easier time making 40psi than a tiny one which would have to spin itself into kingdom come to generate 40psi.

However, that hardly explains anything. So please someone explain to me how "boost isnt boost".

You could have two compressors blowing air at the same pressure but one could be flowing twice as much air as the other.. the one flowing more air will obviously see higher hp numbers.


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