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BlackCherryZ 02-14-2010 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by VH370ZNISMO (Post 400478)
Found this on the GTM site

The Stage 3 Kit continues where the Stage 2 Kit leaves off. Included with Stage 3 is the GTM Flash, as well as the complete GTM spec 2.5" cat back,Designed for N/A/Supercharged use but suitable for mild turbo charger applications. Features full stainless steel construction with a high polished finish.And Our GTM Supercharger Turn key kit .
it has a list price for the supercharger of $5390 may not be the same kit though

GTM Motorsports*::*PERFORMANCE UPGRADES*::*STAGED POWER PACKGES*::*GTM STAGE 3

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Originally Posted by G37Sam (Post 400488)
The VQ35DE has weaker internals.


just speculations..........

on the same note, GTM increased the price for TT on 370z by about 33% when compared to 350z..........

perhaps they will raise by as much in the SC kit for 370z as well............

since it would cost about $15k to get 500 RWHP TT kit, it would not be any cheaper than $10k to get RWHP in that range....

of course, if they were to offer it at the range of SC for 350z, ppl will presumably jump at it and go "nuts." ................... i know i will.........

Zsteve 02-14-2010 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Z eliminator (Post 400437)
I got the same numbers that you did 105 and thats standard horse power, not SAE!
My base line 265 + 105 = 370 RWHP. Now with some tuning there should be
more power. 11 to 1 compression with 6 lbs = shorter engine life. 8 lbs = 400 rwhp, I would say the engine is at risk. (my stillen stage 4 , 8lbs, killed my 3.5 in my 350.)

In what way did it kill the 3.5? Hope it wont do that on the 3.7.

Zsteve 02-14-2010 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCherryZ (Post 400785)
just speculations..........

on the same note, GTM increased the price for TT on 370z by about 33% when compared to 350z..........

perhaps they will raise by as much in the SC kit for 370z as well............

since it would cost about $15k to get 500 RWHP TT kit, it would not be any cheaper than $10k to get RWHP in that range....

of course, if they were to offer it at the range of SC for 350z, ppl will presumably jump at it and go "nuts." ................... i know i will.........

Im with the lower the price and more will buy thing. At $9-10K, no way. At $5-6K yes. Maybe they need to do some R&R on here at what price it will sell to the most people.

Z eliminator 02-14-2010 01:42 PM

I broke something in #2 cylinder, lost 40 lb compression. currently installing a 4.2 gtm with wolf 850 tt.\ in the 350.
If the price is to high i will leave the 370 N/A

budakai 02-14-2010 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 400924)
Im with the lower the price and more will buy thing. At $9-10K, no way. At $5-6K yes. Maybe they need to do some R&R on here at what price it will sell to the most people.

I agree with you there.......I know GTM is working hard with the SC system but I lost some intrest in the product. If they worked faster I would have been an impulse buyer.....ahh boy

Minicobra1 02-14-2010 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by VH370ZNISMO (Post 400478)
Found this on the GTM site

The Stage 3 Kit continues where the Stage 2 Kit leaves off. Included with Stage 3 is the GTM Flash, as well as the complete GTM spec 2.5" cat back,Designed for N/A/Supercharged use but suitable for mild turbo charger applications. Features full stainless steel construction with a high polished finish.And Our GTM Supercharger Turn key kit .
it has a list price for the supercharger of $5390 may not be the same kit though

GTM Motorsports*::*PERFORMANCE UPGRADES*::*STAGED POWER PACKGES*::*GTM STAGE 3

Looks like they just bumped the price to $7390 on the website. That wouldn't be too bad if that was installed price, don't need the CBE.

Minicobra1 02-14-2010 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Z eliminator (Post 400437)
I got the same numbers that you did 105 and thats standard horse power, not SAE!
My base line 265 + 105 = 370 RWHP. Now with some tuning there should be
more power. 11 to 1 compression with 6 lbs = shorter engine life. 8 lbs = 400 rwhp, I would say the engine is at risk. (my stillen stage 4 , 8lbs, killed my 3.5 in my 350.)

How many miles b4 the engine died? and what type of miles, hard launches -1/4 mile runs, WOT everyday? that type of driving will shorten the life of an engine too :tup: I understand that anytime you add F.I. to a motor, it tends to shorten the lifespan, but driving style will have a big impact too. Was your system running anti-knock sensors?

Zguy 02-14-2010 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Minicobra1 (Post 401148)
Looks like they just bumped the price to $7390 on the website. That wouldn't be too bad if that was installed price, don't need the CBE.

I think anything over 7k is going to kill their sales... you can TT for a little more... The supercharger was supposed to be the cheapER FI solution.... Im sure to most a 1-2k difference isnt cheaper....

rackley 02-14-2010 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Zguy (Post 401160)
I think anything over 7k is going to kill their sales... you can TT for a little more... The supercharger was supposed to be the cheapER FI solution.... Im sure to most a 1-2k difference isnt cheaper....

Read the page people. $7390 includes the stage 2. Minus the stage 2 option is $5390.

Togo 02-14-2010 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Zguy (Post 401160)
I think anything over 7k is going to kill their sales... you can TT for a little more... The supercharger was supposed to be the cheapER FI solution.... Im sure to most a 1-2k difference isnt cheaper....

Well that depends on what's included.. that price of 7300 had an exhaust included in it which the TT kits don't ever include so thats an extra 1.5k ontop of the TT kit cost.

TT kits cost 15K on average so it seems. I don't think this kit will cost anywhere near TT costs even with the upgraded clutch and exhaust options.

Zguy 02-14-2010 03:50 PM

Anyone that would pay 15k for a TT kit is either 1 an idiot or 2 an idiot.... They werent even that much for the 350z... I can guarantee that same 15k TT kit costs about 3500 to 4500 in parts at the very most..... I can see a decent markup but robbing someone blind because its a new car is just wrong....

Togo 02-14-2010 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Zguy (Post 401178)
Anyone that would pay 15k for a TT kit is either 1 an idiot or 2 an idiot.... They werent even that much for the 350z... I can guarantee that same 15k TT kit costs about 3500 to 4500 in parts at the very most..... I can see a decent markup but robbing someone blind because its a new car is just wrong....

Gotta pay to play..:happydance:

theDreamer 02-14-2010 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Zguy (Post 401178)
Anyone that would pay 15k for a TT kit is either 1 an idiot or 2 an idiot.... They werent even that much for the 350z... I can guarantee that same 15k TT kit costs about 3500 to 4500 in parts at the very most..... I can see a decent markup but robbing someone blind because its a new car is just wrong....

The reason people are paying 15k for a TT setup is because to run a a good/solid TT setup you should upgrade the exhaust, oil cooler, etc. Most kits are being sold for about 10k, but it is highly recommend you pick up some supporting items to help.

Togo 02-14-2010 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 401182)
The reason people are paying 15k for a TT setup is because to run a a good/solid TT setup you should upgrade the exhaust, oil cooler, etc. Most kits are being sold for about 10k, but it is highly recommend you pick up some supporting items to help.

Exactly Dreamer. People forget about labor and support mods. You might also want an electronic boost controller with those TT kits, heavy duty clutch, gauges.

LiquidZ 02-14-2010 04:02 PM

No point in arguing about prices people. Nothing is official.

Togo 02-14-2010 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by LiquidZ (Post 401192)
No point in arguing about prices people. Nothing is official.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...1/catfight.gif

LiquidZ 02-14-2010 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Togo (Post 401194)

:icon18: I love that emoticon.

Togo 02-14-2010 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by LiquidZ (Post 401196)
:icon18: I love that emoticon.

haha me too! :tup:

Zguy 02-14-2010 04:14 PM

I completely agree with the supporting mods no doubt whatsoever... I was just talking about the base price of the kit. I usually buy the supporting mods first then afterwards the main dish :)

Togo 02-14-2010 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Zguy (Post 401213)
I completely agree with the supporting mods no doubt whatsoever... I was just talking about the base price of the kit. I usually buy the supporting mods first then afterwards the main dish :)

Ahh yeah i meant 15K for a full setup.. i wrote kit but meant the full schbang. 15K base price would be pretty redonkulous though

Buddy Revell 02-14-2010 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by LiquidZ (Post 401192)
No point in arguing about prices people. Nothing is official.

Gotta entertain ourselves some way while waiting for dynos, prices, and press releases come out, LOL!

Togo 02-14-2010 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddy Revell (Post 401411)
Gotta entertain ourselves some way while waiting for dynos, prices, and press releases come out, LOL!

I was having hte same issue.. check out this thread for entertainment purposes..

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...estions-3.html

B1nks 02-14-2010 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Togo (Post 401415)
I was having hte same issue.. check out this thread for entertainment purposes..

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...estions-3.html


:roflpuke2: at that post you started ! :stirthepot:

Togo 02-14-2010 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by B1nks (Post 401628)
:roflpuke2: at that post you started ! :stirthepot:

Lol AK let me have my fun for just a little over an hour..:roflpuke2:

it fixed my boredom though.. ahhah


Still have this one though..http://myg37.com/forums/g37-coupe/20...stay-away.html

Zguy 02-14-2010 08:39 PM

lol

kdoske 02-14-2010 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Togo (Post 401415)
I was having hte same issue.. check out this thread for entertainment purposes..

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...estions-3.html

hahahah, yeah I knew it was some weird sh!t

JB-370z 02-15-2010 06:41 PM

This thread has died, I think people have given up in some sort of aspect. I guess TT it is for me.

Zguy 02-15-2010 07:55 PM

I dunno.....

budakai 02-15-2010 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JB-370z (Post 402916)
This thread has died, I think people have given up in some sort of aspect. I guess TT it is for me.

I agree, they must be running into alot of problems. I'll play it safe with you and go TT.

puckshaw 02-15-2010 08:40 PM

:rofl2: Are you guys serious? I can't believe how impatient some of you are. There are bound to be some hurdles in bringing a kit like this to market. Hang in there and I'm sure it'll be worth it.

Minicobra1 02-15-2010 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by budakai (Post 403025)
I agree, they must be running into alot of problems. I'll play it safe with you and go TT.

LoL. Sam just posted on Saturday, said he had some problems with a leaky intercooler, I'm sure he prob took Sunday off, so it's only Monday.
I"m still in :tup:

Red370 02-15-2010 08:48 PM

I must say though, I'm curious why the TT kits came to market sooner than the supercharger systems, TT's are much more mechanical intensive builds...

theDreamer 02-15-2010 08:51 PM

TT kits sale, big numbers (big price tag).
Plus I think with the design of the 3.7 it made the SC setups a bit tougher to design a good, solid, powerful setup and added some R&D time.

LiquidZ 02-15-2010 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 403065)
I must say though, I'm curious why the TT kits came to market sooner than the supercharger systems, TT's are much more mechanical intensive builds...

I feel twin turbos are far more appealing to the import market than supercharger kits, hence why they seem to appear first.

Coming from the domestic market, supercharger kits were always the first on the market.

JB-370z 02-15-2010 09:51 PM

....... What - Ev

fstrnldr 02-15-2010 10:37 PM

Twin turbo kit came out sooner because they had all ready done it on the G37 over a year before the Z34 chassis debuted. As far as the SC having problems, i would guess some of you guys aren't used to seeing the info as it becomes available. usually the companies just wait until the product is ready to sell before giving ANY info on it.

B1nks 02-15-2010 10:39 PM

Yeah that and the dual throttle body had people scratching their heads for a while to figure out a way to do the SC setup.

jmlenz 02-15-2010 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JB-370z (Post 402916)
This thread has died, I think people have given up in some sort of aspect. I guess TT it is for me.

^^^ are you guys f'ing serious!?!?!? Keep your panties on fellas! Sam doesnt post in 48hrs (over a holiday weekend no less!) and you monkeys say the thread has died, there must be problems with the S/C, blah blah :bowrofl:

It's a monumental R&D undertaking to put something like this SC to market (1st may I add) so take it easy, be patient, and the let the pros do their job. We should be fortunate that GTM has told us ANYTHING prior to the official release.

Brazilbro 02-15-2010 11:24 PM

:iagree: 3 day weekend.. I dont plan on anything untill friday.

terrycs 02-16-2010 02:59 PM

New builds always take a lot longer than expected. It took them about 8 months to get their TT into my G sedan even though they already had it running on their G coupe.

Fitting a SC is a lot more complicated. In addition to plumbing and other stuff, new brackets need to be designed and machined. A TT "just" requires plumbing.;)


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