GTM Stage 1 SC purchased

Sh0velMan · 10-30-2013, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Voice59

I got a question for you Sh0vel. I see you have stance coilovers, are you running camber arms with those? I just recently bought an SPC rear camber kit in preperation for getting my Stance's installed. I'm just making sure I went the right route.

I have front upper arms, I have stock arms in the rear. I run more camber than you would want to run on the street, most likely. Makes the tires wear weird.

The coilovers have almost nothing to do with alignment though. The need for aftermarket arms and whatnot is based purely on how low you want to go. The Stance units are capable of basically stock ride height (at least on my car, yours will be substantially heavier, so your mileage may vary), making the stock adjustments satisfactory (for now). I definitely sit a bit lower than stock, but I'm not slammed by any stretch.

So, in summary: It'll depend on how low you want to go as to whether or not you need aftermarket arms.

Voice59 · 10-30-2013, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

I've thought about heading out to the Texas Mile, but it seems like every year somebody wads a car up out there. I'd love to know how fast the car will go if you can just bury the throttle and not worry about cops or road conditions.

Agreed. So it looks like I'm gonna go with the CSF Radiator and those 14" fans. And I think that should be just about all the supporting mods I need for the SC. Aside from vented liners, which I imagine can be done manually and not need be purchased.

Chuck33079 · 10-30-2013, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan

So, in summary: It'll depend on how low you want to go as to whether or not you need aftermarket arms.

Maybe. I was just barely out of spec, and I was only running Eibachs. I went ahead and bought front and rear arms, and rear toe bolts. These tires cost too much to burn them up by being out of spec.

Chuck33079 · 10-30-2013, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Voice59

Aside from vented liners, which I imagine can be done manually and not need be purchased.

Yeah, poking a bunch of holes in the fender liner shoud be a pretty simple DIY.

Voice59 · 10-30-2013, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan

I have front upper arms, I have stock arms in the rear. I run more camber than you would want to run on the street, most likely. Makes the tires wear weird.

The coilovers have almost nothing to do with alignment though. The need for aftermarket arms and whatnot is based purely on how low you want to go. The Stance units are capable of basically stock ride height (at least on my car, yours will be substantially heavier, so your mileage may vary), making the stock adjustments satisfactory (for now). I definitely sit a bit lower than stock, but I'm not slammed by any stretch.

So, in summary: It'll depend on how low you want to go as to whether or not you need aftermarket arms.

I'm looking at eliminating wheel gap. Maybe not completely, but definitely not where I'm at right now. Just doesn't look good.

Voice59 · 10-30-2013, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

the CSF with fan is still much, much cheaper than the GTM.

I'm weighing it out. Thicker radiator means better cooling..correct? So 30mm is better than 14. So if the CSF radiator is 30mm plus a fan that'd be the "ideal" set up. What if I got GTM's 70mm? Would that be good enough to not get the fan? I'm just looking at options. In my mind less moving parts is less chance for error (of any kind). Unless even with that size of a radiator (not tracking the car) it'd be pointless without the fans.

Thoughts?

Chuck33079 · 10-30-2013, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Voice59

I'm weighing it out. Thicker radiator means better cooling..correct? So 30mm is better than 14. So if the CSF radiator is 30mm plus a fan that'd be the "ideal" set up. What if I got GTM's 70mm? Would that be good enough to not get the fan? I'm just looking at options. In my mind less moving parts is less chance for error (of any kind). Unless even with that size of a radiator (not tracking the car) it'd be pointless without the fans.

Thoughts?

From my understanding, the GTM radiator doesn't work with the stock fans.

Tigger · 10-30-2013, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Voice59

I'm weighing it out. Thicker radiator means better cooling..correct? So 30mm is better than 14. So if the CSF radiator is 30mm plus a fan that'd be the "ideal" set up. What if I got GTM's 70mm? Would that be good enough to not get the fan? I'm just looking at options. In my mind less moving parts is less chance for error (of any kind). Unless even with that size of a radiator (not tracking the car) it'd be pointless without the fans.

Thoughts?

If I were going FI right now I would personally do the biggest radiator I could fit. And are you talking about ditching a radiator fan altogether in exchange for a bigger radiator? I hope not! lol. But if you are talking about having an extra smaller fan, then yes, I'd still go for it. They don't just quit working like that. Like anything that is FI in the aftermarket, you always have to pay more attention to the car and watch for things that are failing on a regular basis.

Chuck33079 · 10-30-2013, 07:04 PM

If I had it to do again, I'd get the upgraded fans at the same time I did the radiator. I'd most likely still go with CSF.

Voice59 · 10-30-2013, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

If I had it to do again, I'd get the upgraded fans at the same time I did the radiator. I'd most likely still go with CSF.

Yeah, that's the route I'm taking.

SPOHN · 10-30-2013, 07:31 PM

CSF is more than enough. Mine has always worked great. If it did need more assistance then I will go to the GTM fan and shroud upgrade.

SS_Firehawk · 10-30-2013, 07:56 PM

Stock fans work with the GTM radiator, but you need a new shroud.

Voice59 · 03-29-2014, 07:41 AM

Well, finally got the SC kit in. It's missing a couple parts, which should be sent later. I'm on deployment so hopefully my girlfriend will handle the installation side of it.

steveg78 · 04-02-2014, 01:38 AM

5 months to get the kit?

COSMO · 04-02-2014, 02:29 AM

And probably another 5 months to get the others parts... Good luck..

10-30-2013, 07:04 PM	#84 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29538	If I had it to do again, I'd get the upgraded fans at the same time I did the radiator. I'd most likely still go with CSF. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

10-30-2013, 07:31 PM	#86 (permalink)
SPOHN A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Covington, GA Age: 45 Posts: 14,844 Drives: Waiting on next Z Rep Power: 221	CSF is more than enough. Mine has always worked great. If it did need more assistance then I will go to the GTM fan and shroud upgrade. __________________

10-30-2013, 07:56 PM	#87 (permalink)
SS_Firehawk Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,142 Drives: 13' Magma Red Nismo Rep Power: 7334	Stock fans work with the GTM radiator, but you need a new shroud. __________________ Old Car:GTM TSC'd 550whp / 410lbft tq @ 11.88PSI New Car: Under Construction

03-29-2014, 07:41 AM	#88 (permalink)
Voice59 Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Va Beach, Virginia Posts: 1,418 Drives: 2009 Nissan 370z Rep Power: 15	Well, finally got the SC kit in. It's missing a couple parts, which should be sent later. I'm on deployment so hopefully my girlfriend will handle the installation side of it. Jasonle and SS_Firehawk like this.

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