So what exactly is wrong with the Stillen SC kit?

DEpointfive0 · 09-15-2013, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by brucelidat

Not saying the Stillen kit is great or anything since I don't have it, but when they say 500hp, they mean bhp so if you get 425whp, you are hitting their rating, though it seems like most don,t hit that either.

They say (at least on the phone) that all their mods/gains are measured in WHP.

ANMVQ · 09-16-2013, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0

They say (at least on the phone) that all their mods/gains are measured in WHP.

Not sure what you mean? You saying they wont make 425WHP? You are right if your saying their kit and their "box" tune, Heck I made NA 298 WHP on their tune I only made 342 WHP

UPREV tuned made 412 WHP

, Just proves their tune SUX..

MMC Racing · 09-16-2013, 07:40 AM

Every plan to get around CARB has risks. If you are going to do the out of area registration, make sure your driver's license matches. It is a red flag if it doesn't. If you get popped near your house, the chances increase that you'll get popped again by the same cop and he'll then know whatever story you told about just visiting is BS.

GTM will never have a CARB certified kit, so OP go ahead and buy the Stillen kit and get a good tune for it. Yes it wouldn't be CARB approved anymore, but no one will know.

DEpointfive0 · 09-16-2013, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ANMVQ

Not sure what you mean? You saying they wont make 425WHP? You are right if your saying their kit and their "box" tune, Heck I made NA 298 WHP on their tune I only made 342 WHP

UPREV tuned made 412 WHP

, Just proves their tune SUX..

You know what, looking over all their info again... The Stillen kit looks just fine. I think every member that has it is actually making the numbers they promise 480-510hp, and they get around 420-430WHP...
I thought they always advertised WHP numbers and gains (which they told me on the phone) but it looks like for their S/C kit, they measured WHP and HP at the flywheel

elperuano · 09-16-2013, 02:21 PM

The purpose of getting a stillen is for the CARB certification right?

You'll never make those numbers with the stillen kit.

custom tune and upgrades yes, but then it is no longer CARB certified. Risk serious fines to hope to make what other kits make with ease? To each his own I suppose.

brucelidat · 09-16-2013, 02:26 PM

a custom tune without changing any parts kills the carb certification? How would they know as long as you have the sticker?

Chuck33079 · 09-16-2013, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by brucelidat

a custom tube without changing any parts kills the carb certification? How would they know as long as you have the sticker?

Yes, changing anything from the setup that was tested technically voids the CARB certification. There is no way in hell they would know it had a custom tune, though.

brucelidat · 09-16-2013, 02:29 PM

then you're all good, just gotta get that sticker, haha

Chuck33079 · 09-16-2013, 02:30 PM

If you want to play that game, there's no way they would know you changed out injectors, pullies or tune.

ANMVQ · 09-16-2013, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Yes, changing anything from the setup that was tested technically voids the CARB certification. There is no way in hell they would know it had a custom tune, though.

An wouldnt know you changed anything, the Impeller is not visable, an if you upgrade the heat exchanger they cant say anything. That would be like "sorry sir you fail for having a larger raditor" LOL

JDMFairlady21 · 09-20-2013, 09:05 AM

As ANMVQ stated in the first page, the Stillen kit with a custom tune is not bad whatsoever. Its still a better alternative than going the n/a full bolt ons route, if you are calculating horsepower per dollar. Purely lacks for room to go close and beyond 500whp... Which EVERYONE says they want to hit, till they get their car back with the extra 100+whp. If you aren't looking to build the engine to handle more power, then this would be one of better options that we suggest to our customers.

brucelidat · 09-20-2013, 12:26 PM

Would Stillen have a problem if I asked them to change their pulleys and bypass valves to something not plastic? People seem to say those need to be upgraded as well as possibly the injectors.

ANMVQ · 09-20-2013, 01:04 PM

In all honesty if I go back FI and dont go twins low boost ( Save the auto tranny and t case) I will be going back to the Stillen Kit.

ANMVQ · 09-20-2013, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by brucelidat

Would Stillen have a problem if I asked them to change their pulleys and bypass valves to something not plastic? People seem to say those need to be upgraded as well as possibly the injectors.

I didnt even realize the pullies where plastic??? But I went with a upgraged BPV anyway.

darli328 · 09-20-2013, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MMC Racing

Every plan to get around CARB has risks. If you are going to do the out of area registration, make sure your driver's license matches. It is a red flag if it doesn't. If you get popped near your house, the chances increase that you'll get popped again by the same cop and he'll then know whatever story you told about just visiting is BS.

GTM will never have a CARB certified kit, so OP go ahead and buy the Stillen kit and get a good tune for it. Yes it wouldn't be CARB approved anymore, but no one will know.

Some of us are still hoping for a GTM CARB approved kit, but I fear you're right...

09-16-2013, 07:40 AM	#18 (permalink)
MMC Racing Track Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: San Diego Posts: 661 Drives: 2015 GT-R Rep Power: 16	Every plan to get around CARB has risks. If you are going to do the out of area registration, make sure your driver's license matches. It is a red flag if it doesn't. If you get popped near your house, the chances increase that you'll get popped again by the same cop and he'll then know whatever story you told about just visiting is BS. GTM will never have a CARB certified kit, so OP go ahead and buy the Stillen kit and get a good tune for it. Yes it wouldn't be CARB approved anymore, but no one will know. __________________ 2014 F150 Raptor, 2014 Mazda 3, 2015 Nissan GT-R

09-16-2013, 02:26 PM	#21 (permalink)
brucelidat A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: temple city, ca Posts: 2,432 Drives: 2011 370z 7AT GM Sp Rep Power: 30	a custom tune without changing any parts kills the carb certification? How would they know as long as you have the sticker? __________________ Works Emotion CR Ultimate - FI CBE w/ 18" resonators - Ecutek - eibach sways - Quaife - FI LTH w/race cats - kw v3 - spl - Topgunz SC - 488whp 398trq Last edited by brucelidat; 09-16-2013 at 02:28 PM.

09-16-2013, 02:29 PM	#23 (permalink)
brucelidat A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: temple city, ca Posts: 2,432 Drives: 2011 370z 7AT GM Sp Rep Power: 30	then you're all good, just gotta get that sticker, haha fuct likes this. __________________ Works Emotion CR Ultimate - FI CBE w/ 18" resonators - Ecutek - eibach sways - Quaife - FI LTH w/race cats - kw v3 - spl - Topgunz SC - 488whp 398trq

09-16-2013, 02:30 PM	#24 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29538	If you want to play that game, there's no way they would know you changed out injectors, pullies or tune. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

09-20-2013, 09:05 AM	#26 (permalink)
JDMFairlady21 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: LI, NY Posts: 347 Drives: 03 Z33 TT Redline Rep Power: 15	As ANMVQ stated in the first page, the Stillen kit with a custom tune is not bad whatsoever. Its still a better alternative than going the n/a full bolt ons route, if you are calculating horsepower per dollar. Purely lacks for room to go close and beyond 500whp... Which EVERYONE says they want to hit, till they get their car back with the extra 100+whp. If you aren't looking to build the engine to handle more power, then this would be one of better options that we suggest to our customers. __________________ http://i48.tinypic.com/2h6t15w.jpg Real Auto Dynamics 516.442.7155 \| alex@realautodynamics.com www.facebook.com/RealAutoDynamics

09-16-2013, 02:21 PM	#20 (permalink)
elperuano A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Southwest FL Posts: 1,374 Drives: G37S Rep Power: 28	The purpose of getting a stillen is for the CARB certification right? You'll never make those numbers with the stillen kit. custom tune and upgrades yes, but then it is no longer CARB certified. Risk serious fines to hope to make what other kits make with ease? To each his own I suppose.

09-20-2013, 12:26 PM	#27 (permalink)
brucelidat A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: temple city, ca Posts: 2,432 Drives: 2011 370z 7AT GM Sp Rep Power: 30	Would Stillen have a problem if I asked them to change their pulleys and bypass valves to something not plastic? People seem to say those need to be upgraded as well as possibly the injectors. __________________ Works Emotion CR Ultimate - FI CBE w/ 18" resonators - Ecutek - eibach sways - Quaife - FI LTH w/race cats - kw v3 - spl - Topgunz SC - 488whp 398trq

09-20-2013, 01:04 PM	#28 (permalink)
ANMVQ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Framingham MA Posts: 2,732 Drives: 2014 Q50 AWD Rep Power: 19	In all honesty if I go back FI and dont go twins low boost ( Save the auto tranny and t case) I will be going back to the Stillen Kit. __________________ 14 Q50 AWD, ARK, ECUTEK (SEB), Takda,

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