Stillen Supercharger estimates???

jmlenz · 12-01-2009, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by kannibul

400 at the wheels is around 472 at the crank (assuming 18% drivetrain loss)

400whp actually = 488 crank hp assuming 18% loss...but whos counting?

2010 will be good for the 370! By summer we should have at least 2 supercharger kits and ~4 TT kits to choose from!

Kyle@STILLEN · 12-01-2009, 07:14 PM

LOL...Sorry! Didn't mean to disappoint anyone!

I always like to post conservatively. That way when we over deliver...You're much happier with us! LOL

imag · 12-02-2009, 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Kyle@STILLEN

LOL...Sorry! Didn't mean to disappoint anyone!

I always like to post conservatively. That way when we over deliver...You're much happier with us! LOL

Sweet! So you're saying it's good for 450 rwhp?

1slow370 · 12-04-2009, 04:27 AM

Alright simplifying my other post and a bit of follow up, I ran on over to performance shop in my area that builds supercharger kits and the news isn't good. Basically it goes something like VVEL and open throttlebodies make it impossiple to mount a rotor style supercharger on our cars (roots-tvs or twinscrew). So my bet is on seeing the Stillen centrifugal supercharger kit come May

Only way around it is some mad ecu hacks or cable throttle bodies and either way you will lose the effect of vvel reducing the engines pumping losses while cruising.

Minicobra1 · 12-04-2009, 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370

Alright simplifying my other post and a bit of follow up, I ran on over to performance shop in my area that builds supercharger kits and the news isn't good. Basically it goes something like VVEL and open throttlebodies make it impossiple to mount a rotor style supercharger on our cars (roots-tvs or twinscrew). So my bet is on seeing the Stillen centrifugal supercharger kit come May

Only way around it is some mad ecu hacks or cable throttle bodies and either way you will lose the effect of vvel reducing the engines pumping losses while cruising.

Yep, that's what I heard too.

Minicobra1 · 12-04-2009, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Kyle@STILLEN

LOL...Sorry! Didn't mean to disappoint anyone!

I always like to post conservatively. That way when we over deliver...You're much happier with us! LOL

Kyle, any Idea on a realistic release date on this. There was a post about 9 months ago that said it was coming along nicely

I don't think that is over delivering. Superchargers for the 370Z?

I know these things take time to develop, but there is obviously some problems in R&D or it's just not a priority at the moment. Either way, it would be great if you could shed some real light on the development, if it's going to be a Centrifugal or Roots style, and a realistic delivery date. Will it really be in May, or possible for sale sooner?

LiquidZ · 12-04-2009, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Minicobra1

Kyle, any Idea on a realistic release date on this. There was a post about 9 months ago that said it was coming along nicely

I don't think that is over delivering. Superchargers for the 370Z?

I know these things take time to develop, but there is obviously some problems in R&D or it's just not a priority at the moment. Either way, it would be great if you could shed some real light on the development, if it's going to be a Centrifugal or Roots style, and a realistic delivery date. Will it really be in May, or possible for sale sooner?

I'm with you. I really like Stillen's ethics on product development, however, if they keep hiding info, people are going to look at other companies for forced induction.

JB-370z · 12-04-2009, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by LiquidZ

I'm with you. I really like Stillen's ethics on product development, however, if they keep hiding info, people are going to look at other companies for forced induction.

I think your right here bud!

Kyle@STILLEN · 12-10-2009, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Minicobra1

Kyle, any Idea on a realistic release date on this. There was a post about 9 months ago that said it was coming along nicely

I don't think that is over delivering. Superchargers for the 370Z?

I know these things take time to develop, but there is obviously some problems in R&D or it's just not a priority at the moment. Either way, it would be great if you could shed some real light on the development, if it's going to be a Centrifugal or Roots style, and a realistic delivery date. Will it really be in May, or possible for sale sooner?

I assure you, there is absolutely nothing wrong with our R&D process and we have not had any delays due to this particular project.

As I have said in this thread and others, our biggest delay, was caused by the Targa Newfoundland rally car. We've actually been working on the supercharger since early 2009 or late 2008 (don't remember exactly when we started) but when the development of the GT R rally car began, we had to put some of our other projects on hold.

imag · 12-10-2009, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyle@STILLEN

I assure you, there is absolutely nothing wrong with our R&D process and we have not had any delays due to this particular project.

As I have said in this thread and others, our biggest delay, was caused by the Targa Newfoundland rally car. We've actually been working on the supercharger since early 2009 or late 2008 (don't remember exactly when we started) but when the development of the GT R rally car began, we had to put some of our other projects on hold.

I'm sure the slow sales of the Z didn't help our priority any either...

kannibul · 12-10-2009, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by imag

I'm sure the slow sales of the Z didn't help our priority any either...

I think around 97% of all the 370'z produced for this model year, shipped to the US, have sold?

(this going off sales threads in general discussion, but I may be remembering the numbers incorrectly)

Even then, in this economy, performance cars generally don't do very well, and drop off horribly in favor of cheaper...

imag · 12-10-2009, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by kannibul

I think around 97% of all the 370'z produced for this model year, shipped to the US, have sold?

That may be true, but they drastically cut back production. They were hoping to sell 40K Zs this year IIRC...

Kyle@STILLEN · 12-10-2009, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by imag

I'm sure the slow sales of the Z didn't help our priority any either...

To be completely honest, I don't think that was a big factor. I do know that the supercharger will also fit the G37 and there is a very good possibility that it will fit the 07-08 Z's as well. So the lack of new car sales on the Z weren't a huge factor. When we design our kits we try to make them fit multiple vehicle's. This helps everyone by allowing us to ammortize the cost of the R&D over a larger number of potential sales which in turn lowers the customer's retail price.

At the end of the day, Steve just wanted to go play in Newfoundland with his GT R and it had to be ready by September LMAO!!!

On a serious note though, we are planning on sitting down at the beginning of next week to discuss what information we can release. We all agree that it's about time that we offer some more details on the kit as we are pretty far along in the development process. I just need to ask the Manager's what they're comfortable talking about.

imag · 12-10-2009, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyle@STILLEN

To be completely honest, I don't think that was a big factor. I do know that the supercharger will also fit the G37 and there is a very good possibility that it will fit the 07-08 Z's as well. So the lack of new car sales on the Z weren't a huge factor. When we design our kits we try to make them fit multiple vehicle's. This helps everyone by allowing us to ammortize the cost of the R&D over a larger number of potential sales which in turn lowers the customer's retail price.

At the end of the day, Steve just wanted to go play in Newfoundland with his GT R and it had to be ready by September LMAO!!!

On a serious note though, we are planning on sitting down at the beginning of next week to discuss what information we can release. We all agree that it's about time that we offer some more details on the kit as we are pretty far along in the development process. I just need to ask the Manager's what they're comfortable talking about.

Nice - thanks for doing that.

And I can understand wanting to play with the GT R in Newfoundland

Buddy Revell · 12-11-2009, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyle@STILLEN

To be completely honest, I don't think that was a big factor. I do know that the supercharger will also fit the G37 and there is a very good possibility that it will fit the 07-08 Z's as well. So the lack of new car sales on the Z weren't a huge factor. When we design our kits we try to make them fit multiple vehicle's. This helps everyone by allowing us to ammortize the cost of the R&D over a larger number of potential sales which in turn lowers the customer's retail price.

At the end of the day, Steve just wanted to go play in Newfoundland with his GT R and it had to be ready by September LMAO!!!

On a serious note though, we are planning on sitting down at the beginning of next week to discuss what information we can release. We all agree that it's about time that we offer some more details on the kit as we are pretty far along in the development process. I just need to ask the Manager's what they're comfortable talking about.

It fits the G37? Hell yeah! Can't wait to hear more details about the kit.

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Kyle@STILLEN The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Newport Beach Posts: 626 Drives: Toyota Tundra Rep Power: 308	LOL...Sorry! Didn't mean to disappoint anyone! I always like to post conservatively. That way when we over deliver...You're much happier with us! LOL

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1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7252	Alright simplifying my other post and a bit of follow up, I ran on over to performance shop in my area that builds supercharger kits and the news isn't good. Basically it goes something like VVEL and open throttlebodies make it impossiple to mount a rotor style supercharger on our cars (roots-tvs or twinscrew). So my bet is on seeing the Stillen centrifugal supercharger kit come May Only way around it is some mad ecu hacks or cable throttle bodies and either way you will lose the effect of vvel reducing the engines pumping losses while cruising.