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After the Subaru, I said no more heavy modding. But, this thread is starting to make me reconsider.

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Old 01-17-2010, 09:32 AM   #1 (permalink)
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After the Subaru, I said no more heavy modding. But, this thread is starting to make me reconsider.
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Old 01-17-2010, 11:26 AM   #2 (permalink)
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After the Subaru, I said no more heavy modding. But, this thread is starting to make me reconsider.
i said that same thing when i sold my cobalt, i said "well this car is 280 with just intakes, thats good enough"....yea that lastest a day or two until i seen a nitrous kit on sale..lol
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I have to say it looks like some really serious engineering and thought has gone into this kit and i'm really anxious to see the results from all this work.

Good work Stillen and thanks for all the updates.
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I have to say it looks like some really serious engineering and thought has gone into this kit and i'm really anxious to see the results from all this work.

Good work Stillen and thanks for all the updates.
I agree.
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Old 01-17-2010, 02:44 PM   #5 (permalink)
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that intake manifold is truly a work of art, design and looks, GTM is going to seriously have to impress me to sway me from this setup.
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Definitely a nice update
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The intake intercooler is a great idea, how much do you expect it to cool the air? And will a regular IC be needed too as the intake one is kinda small? I think if the intake IC cools the air pretty good then this could be a common setup down the road for FI cars.
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The intake intercooler is a great idea, how much do you expect it to cool the air? And will a regular IC be needed too as the intake one is kinda small? I think if the intake IC cools the air pretty good then this could be a common setup down the road for FI cars.
The intercooler in the intake manifold is the only intercooler. The reason its so small is because its an air to water unit. Water is continuously cycled through the intercooler to a heat exchanger mounted in the front of the vehicle by a pump. The heat exchanger in the front of the vehicle acts just like a radiator by cooling the warm water from the intake manifold. Cooled water from the heat exchanger is pumped back to the intake manifold for the cycle to begin again.

Air to water intercoolers don't need to be huge to cool effectively because water is very good at absorbing heat.
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I just hope that they dont get heat soaked and rob us of power.
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I just hope that they dont get heat soaked and rob us of power.
That's why the water is pumped into and out of the intercooler continuously. It is still possible for the intercooler to be heatsoaked, but we will have to see what Stillen says when they begin real world testing.
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That's why the water is pumped into and out of the intercooler continuously. It is still possible for the intercooler to be heatsoaked, but we will have to see what Stillen says when they begin real world testing.
This setup is almost identical to computer hardware cooling, and if the level of water in/out is efficient then there will be no issues. I have seen 100°C CPUs drop into the 50-55°C range with a medium to high water cooling system.
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This setup is almost identical to computer hardware cooling, and if the level of water in/out is efficient then there will be no issues. I have seen 100°C CPUs drop into the 50-55°C range with a medium to high water cooling system.
I remember those days. I think I'm about due for a new computer haha.
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I remember those days. I think I'm about due for a new computer haha.
Yep, I am still in them. I saw the blog post and instantly thought PC setup. Only thing that would be better would be certain types of oils, I have seen PCs setup with an oil liquid and they cool about 10°C lower but the oil is extremely expensive from what I hear.
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I just hope that they dont get heat soaked and rob us of power.
There is definitely a lot to account for when engineering an air to water intercooler system. You need to look at the volume of water, the size of the heat exchanger, the size of the intercooler, the speed of the water...There is a lot that goes into developing an adequately sized air to water intercooler system.

Fortunately we have a lot of experience with air to water intercoolers being incorporated into the intake manifold like we've done on our 350Z and our Nissan Titan. Actually, the heat exchanger that we're using out front, is larger than any heat exchanger Magnusson supercharger's uses on any of their V8 kits.

On the 350Z a few years ago we actually did a test with 9 other cars all equipped with forced induction kits. Only two of the cars were able to complete all of the laps around the track without overheating or going into limp mode. One was our car and if memory serves correctly, I think the other was the Greddy twin turbo car.

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i've driven the Greddy TT in a caged track 350z....it was overheating haha. I think it has since been fixed and stopped doing so, but its funny you mention that.
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