400whp actually = 488 crank hp assuming 18% loss...but whos counting? :rolleyes:

2010 will be good for the 370! By summer we should have at least 2 supercharger kits and ~4 TT kits to choose from!

LOL...Sorry! Didn't mean to disappoint anyone!

I always like to post conservatively. That way when we over deliver...You're much happier with us! LOL

Is it gonna be centrifugal, roots, or twin-screw? Curious about the low-end torque gains more than the peak HP numbers.

Kyle, are we going to have to wait intill May or will we be getting any new info before the year is over?

We should have information before the show in May.. but we always test things before we release information..

Sweet! So you're saying it's good for 450 rwhp?


:excited:



:shakes head:

Alright simplifying my other post and a bit of follow up, I ran on over to performance shop in my area that builds supercharger kits and the news isn't good. Basically it goes something like VVEL and open throttlebodies make it impossiple to mount a rotor style supercharger on our cars (roots-tvs or twinscrew). So my bet is on seeing the Stillen centrifugal supercharger kit come May :( Only way around it is some mad ecu hacks or cable throttle bodies and either way you will lose the effect of vvel reducing the engines pumping losses while cruising.

Kyle, any Idea on a realistic release date on this. There was a post about 9 months ago that said it was coming along nicely :confused: I don't think that is over delivering. http://www.the370z.com/forced-induct...html#post41885

I know these things take time to develop, but there is obviously some problems in R&D or it's just not a priority at the moment. Either way, it would be great if you could shed some real light on the development, if it's going to be a Centrifugal or Roots style, and a realistic delivery date. Will it really be in May, or possible for sale sooner?

Yep, that's what I heard too.

Interesting info. Centrifugal superchargers are
still a great option.

it also explains how they can say it will fit under the hood as well

I'm with you. I really like Stillen's ethics on product development, however, if they keep hiding info, people are going to look at other companies for forced induction.

:iagree:I think your right here bud!

We'll have information soon.. and part of true R&D is testing testing testing.. ensuring a kit like this is built to the standards of STILLEN and Steve Millen. Not trying to "hide info"..

:)

If your not trying to hide info Josh, why can't you just tell us the type of supercharger Stillen is trying to make? That's all alot of us want to know!

Agreed, I don't think it's going to destroy the project or hurt sales if we know it's going to be a centrifugal rather then a roots or twin screw style.

if they release after the tt kits come out they will lose sales imo,

i would infer that it would be out around the same time the tt kits are out.
:confused:

I dont think it will hurt. A TT and a SC are two different animals IMO. Those that want a SC are only looking for a modest gain in hp/tq but those that want a TT are looking for huge gains. I only want around 80 more hp/tq with a SC so that hopefully it will be more of a install and forget mod. A TT would need constant tweaking IMO. I will be waiting and watching to see how the SCs do and thier reliability and if all goes well have one in a yr after they have it all worked out and reliable. But I would like to know what type it will be now if possible.

I am hoping its not a roots type blower like the one for the 350z. I am hoping they use the TVS/rotex system or similar as it looks great on paper! HKS and GTM are using it with very impressive results. If Stillen is going this route we can definitly expect up to 450 rwhp and 375 tq. I am willing to wait and see what Stillen has to offer before I choose which way to go. I was at first all over the idea of going twin turbo with AAM but the more I talked with them the more extensive the project was going to be and the cost went from 10K to 15K really quick and I got cold feet and walked away. After taking a step back I truly feel a well designed supercharger system will more than satisfy my ND4SPD. I have been very happy with all of my Stillen mods, so much i display it proudly on my windshield, so most likely thier new supercharger will ultimatly end up under my hood.

Sorry, I did the math backwards. 400WHP + 18% = 472.

Your way,
488 - 18% = 400...

Anyhow...yeah, who's counting :icon14:

Better Steve Millen, and not Matt Millen. As any Lions fan will tell you...any that are left...lol

Stillen did a nice job on the GTR turbos, relax lads, it's frigin December. (Cali, Fla posters pls ignore :tiphat:)

I see a centrifugal here imo

I assure you, there is absolutely nothing wrong with our R&D process and we have not had any delays due to this particular project.

As I have said in this thread and others, our biggest delay, was caused by the Targa Newfoundland rally car. We've actually been working on the supercharger since early 2009 or late 2008 (don't remember exactly when we started) but when the development of the GT R rally car began, we had to put some of our other projects on hold.

I'm sure the slow sales of the Z didn't help our priority any either...

I think around 97% of all the 370'z produced for this model year, shipped to the US, have sold?

(this going off sales threads in general discussion, but I may be remembering the numbers incorrectly)

Even then, in this economy, performance cars generally don't do very well, and drop off horribly in favor of cheaper...

To be completely honest, I don't think that was a big factor. I do know that the supercharger will also fit the G37 and there is a very good possibility that it will fit the 07-08 Z's as well. So the lack of new car sales on the Z weren't a huge factor. When we design our kits we try to make them fit multiple vehicle's. This helps everyone by allowing us to ammortize the cost of the R&D over a larger number of potential sales which in turn lowers the customer's retail price.

At the end of the day, Steve just wanted to go play in Newfoundland with his GT R and it had to be ready by September LMAO!!!

On a serious note though, we are planning on sitting down at the beginning of next week to discuss what information we can release. We all agree that it's about time that we offer some more details on the kit as we are pretty far along in the development process. I just need to ask the Manager's what they're comfortable talking about.

I'm dyin' to hear some numbers!!!!!

Nice - thanks for doing that.

And I can understand wanting to play with the GT R in Newfoundland :rolleyes:

That may be true, but they drastically cut back production. They were hoping to sell 40K Zs this year IIRC...

if they go with a tvs im going to be kinda pissed off. I bought the Harrop TVS 1320 for my cobalt, worked awesome, but i ended up selling it 2 months after i got it so i could get a 370z..lol

They've already gone with it so lets just see which centrifugal unit they give us (there better be at least two).

I am glad Stillen can't fit the roots style blower. Plus I love the sound of the TVS Centrifugal blower, it sounds like a huge turbo minus the bllow off sounds. I refuse to change out the hood to accomodate the blower. I personally did not like the available choices. Twin chargers would be sweet but it cost as much as TT setup. It will be interesting to see how they and GTM run the piping from dual intakes to the Intercooler and to the compressor.

I personally think the Vortech V-5 blower would be ideal here, on the 4th Gen Eclipse GT V6's, they were making 430whp from 230, thats insane, check the link. If they can make 200whp on a 3.8L V6, I hope we can make at least 430whp.

http://www.rippmods.com/v/vspfiles/p...SDSV6-2-2T.jpg

2006 2007 Mitsubishi Eclipse GT RIPP Supercharger Kit Stage 2 V5 G-Trim & Boost Cooler

TVS is not a centrifugal supercharger.
Its a new roots design from
Eaton.

Does anyone really know what they are working with? I mean, I just want to know what extra stuff I am going to have to budget for. I really have to work out my path ahead of time. Once I pick up the Z, my "fun" money will be drstically different. If I wait until after I pick up my Z to purchase upgrades and such, I will have to save for 3-6 months to comfortably afford bolt-ons and ???? for F/I solution. Maybe it will be better in the long run, that way I get the most out of my warranty before I start voiding things.

By the way, one thing that we can confirm right now is that no aftermarket intake will fit the supercharger. We were hoping to design the kit so that it would be possible but we have come to the conclusion that there is just no way to accomodate an aftermarket intake.

The kit will come COMPLETE meaning it will come with an intake. It just won't work with the factory intake or any aftermarket intake. One will be provided with the kit.

So i spent $700 on stillen intakes for nothing? well sir that is pretty ghey

If you planned on going with FI, the better choice would to have not bought an aftermarket CAI.

Kyle, thank you for the information. This officially puts the G3 + S/C question to rest.

yeah it is ghey that you spent 700 on a stillen intake when i bought my G3 for less than 500