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Buddy Revell 10-22-2009 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyle@STILLEN (Post 247962)
Just thought I'd jump in here and offer a little update.

I was walking through the shop last week and I saw an interesting site. The supercharger development car was running! The hood was closed! and I could see our engineers inside with their laptops! That's right folks, our supercharger is nearing completion! Shouldn't be much longer now!

Oh and for the record, we are working with a very reputable electronic tuning company to do all of our tuning directly through the ECU. No more piggyback? Could be!

Stock hood closes AND no reliance on a piggyback? Hell, yeah!!:tup: Is this going to be shown at SEMA? Hope so!

Snakes709 10-23-2009 08:44 AM

so will the tvs r1320 hook up to the 370z? is that what they are using. I had a tvs r1320 for my cobalt and loved it. Sold it to my buddy when i got rid of the balt....if he sells the supercharger i might buy it back *assuming thats what stillin is using)...or just buy the R1900

Kyle@STILLEN 10-23-2009 10:53 AM

We actually will not be sending our car to SEMA this year. We only got the car a couple of months ago and our main priority is/was new product development and testing. We did not want to cut into R&D's time with the car to prepare it for the show. We do have a few of our other vehicle's that will be shown at SEMA but the 370 will not be one of them. While SEMA is going on the car will be getting the new body kit and more testing and development of the supercharger system.

Also, yes, there will be an intercooler option for our Stage II kit. As far as clearance with the trans. and oil coolers, it is our goal to make them all fit together but before we sign off completely on that we will need to do some testing. We want to do some endurance testing to make sure that there is sufficient airflow and everything works well together. Keep in mind that all of these coolers do mount in front of the radiator.

By the way...As soon as our kit is complete we will be submitting the paperwork to CARB to get our testing dates. I've already been working with a few testing facilities to get quotes on some of our other products that we're going to be getting CARB approval on.

NewYorkJon34 10-23-2009 01:04 PM

Hey Kyle, what's going to happen to people who bought the G3 Intakes, any connectivity? If not then I'm glad I waited ;) plus I think an intercooler is a Must!

Unicorn_blood 10-23-2009 03:03 PM

I hope that reputable tuning company is none other than UpRev!

Red370 10-23-2009 04:47 PM

Cobb has been able to do great things for alot of cars with the accessport, wouldnt mind that being a part of the setup, that way you can fine tune it with each additional mod.

Buddy Revell 10-23-2009 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyle@STILLEN (Post 249220)
We actually will not be sending our car to SEMA this year. We only got the car a couple of months ago and our main priority is/was new product development and testing. We did not want to cut into R&D's time with the car to prepare it for the show. We do have a few of our other vehicle's that will be shown at SEMA but the 370 will not be one of them. While SEMA is going on the car will be getting the new body kit and more testing and development of the supercharger system.

Also, yes, there will be an intercooler option for our Stage II kit. As far as clearance with the trans. and oil coolers, it is our goal to make them all fit together but before we sign off completely on that we will need to do some testing. We want to do some endurance testing to make sure that there is sufficient airflow and everything works well together. Keep in mind that all of these coolers do mount in front of the radiator.

By the way...As soon as our kit is complete we will be submitting the paperwork to CARB to get our testing dates. I've already been working with a few testing facilities to get quotes on some of our other products that we're going to be getting CARB approval on.

Thanks for the info, Kyle. So how soon will the G37 version of this SC follow?:tup:

NeverBoneStck 10-23-2009 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddy Revell (Post 249774)
Thanks for the info, Kyle. So how soon will the G37 version of this SC follow?:tup:

Please make one for the G37 ....:inoutroflpuke:

john370z 10-24-2009 09:08 AM

Getting very excited. I am at high altitude and could use FI to get the power back and then some...I am sure Stillen will pull through with a great kit, just hope that the price is in line.
John

Kyle@STILLEN 10-26-2009 11:16 AM

The G37 and the 370Z are sitting right next to each other and they are being developed side by side. We will most definitely have an offering for both vehicle's.

Throttle 10-26-2009 07:15 PM

Thanks for the Update
 
Thanks for the update Kyle. Although, I must admit, no hood modification makes me a little nervous. I hope the end product is a welcome suprise ;)

Make them work more! No vacation! What weekends!? We want to see it! :stirthepot: lol

~Throttle

shabarivas 10-26-2009 07:30 PM

lol agreed!

Equinox 10-26-2009 08:15 PM

No hood mod because I'm sure it's a centrifugal supercharger set off to the side of the engine like another alternator in the belt accesories. Not a big blower sitting on the intake manifold.. or did I miss something?

DropTheGloves 10-27-2009 08:46 AM

Definitely looking forward to seeing what kind of numbers the supercharger will be putting out. I would of also been interested in a supercharger for the G37, but I am a sedan kinda guy for the Infiniti, and well, after seeing speculated pictures of the 2010 G37 Sedan front end, I can say for certain, I am not a fan of it, and would rather get something else. Hopefully it's not what people are claiming it is ( g25 in asia )

Buddy Revell 10-27-2009 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Kyle@STILLEN (Post 252813)
The G37 and the 370Z are sitting right next to each other and they are being developed side by side. We will most definitely have an offering for both vehicle's.

Great news, Kyle. Thanks! :tup:

Red370 10-27-2009 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Equinox (Post 253610)
No hood mod because I'm sure it's a centrifugal supercharger set off to the side of the engine like another alternator in the belt accesories. Not a big blower sitting on the intake manifold.. or did I miss something?

What i've seen done to increase clearance under the hood, is the development of a smaller intake plenum designed specifically for the blower to fit under the stock hood, which could be the case here. I'd much rather have a screw style blower than a centrifugal because I plan on drifting the car and would need that much needed low end torque!

RCZ 10-27-2009 04:57 PM

Hmm...I hope its not a centrifugal....

LiquidZ 10-27-2009 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 254970)
Hmm...I hope its not a centrifugal....

I am with you there.

1slow370 10-27-2009 07:34 PM

being that the "manifold is a work of art" It could still be a screw or roots. The twin throttle manifold is prety big so if they completly did away with it they MAY have been able to fit a blower in there.

NewYorkJon34 10-27-2009 07:39 PM

I'm guessing this "work of art" is going to cost us additional $$$ ;)

1slow370 10-28-2009 01:41 AM

well hell at least they didn't just say it didn't have enough room and send us packin

Kyle@STILLEN 10-29-2009 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by NewYorkJon34 (Post 255264)
I'm guessing this "work of art" is going to cost us additional $$$ ;)

It depends on how you look at it. The intake manifold is necessary in order to complete the installation, so whether it was a work of art or just something slapped together that would "do the job" it was going to be a part of the kit no matter what. Our guys just spent some extra time in making it look really nice.

Silo 10-29-2009 11:31 AM

Kyle, can you confirm what supercharger type you are using? Screw or centrifugal?

kannibul 10-29-2009 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Kyle@STILLEN (Post 257588)
It depends on how you look at it. The intake manifold is necessary in order to complete the installation, so whether it was a work of art or just something slapped together that would "do the job" it was going to be a part of the kit no matter what. Our guys just spent some extra time in making it look really nice.

So, any confirmation on the type and location of the blower?

RCZ 10-29-2009 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Silo (Post 257589)
Kyle, can you confirm what supercharger type you are using? Screw or centrifugal?

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Originally Posted by kannibul (Post 257590)
So, any confirmation on the type and location of the blower?

Are you guys twins? You just asked the same question...worded similarly....at the same minute...thats amazing.

And you joined the same month...

kannibul 10-29-2009 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 257774)
Are you guys twins? You just asked the same question...worded similarly....at the same minute...thats amazing.

And you joined the same month...

And I took German in highschool. I don't remember much of it...

Silo 10-29-2009 03:40 PM

Cheers lost twin on the other side of the ocean! ;)

Now Kyle, give us twins and the other folks some info please...

Kyle@STILLEN 10-29-2009 03:58 PM

Sorry guys,

We don't like to give out much information until we are 100% ready to launch the product. There are many reasons for this but here are some of the primary reasons.

1) Things change...Right now we're in the prototype stages and very few parts are 100% locked down. We have a solid foundation and we feel like we are going in the right direction but if we find that something needs to be changed during our testing then there was no point in even talking about it to begin with. If we start saying what we're using and something changes then it only confuses the people who are late to the discussion. We have all seen threads (especially 12 page long threads ;)) where information gets lost or confused or misinterpreted later in the thread.

2) Protection...We are very proud of our engineering and we have had numerous people rip off our designs. We like to keep our investments and our engineering in house rather than give it to the world before we bring it to market.

6MT 10-29-2009 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyle@STILLEN (Post 258009)
Sorry guys,

We don't like to give out much information until we are 100% ready to launch the product. There are many reasons for this but here are some of the primary reasons.

1) Things change...Right now we're in the prototype stages and very few parts are 100% locked down. We have a solid foundation and we feel like we are going in the right direction but if we find that something needs to be changed during our testing then there was no point in even talking about it to begin with. If we start saying what we're using and something changes then it only confuses the people who are late to the discussion. We have all seen threads (especially 12 page long threads ;)) where information gets lost or confused or misinterpreted later in the thread.

2) Protection...We are very proud of our engineering and we have had numerous people rip off our designs. We like to keep our investments and our engineering in house rather than give it to the world before we bring it to market.

:iagree:

Silo 10-29-2009 04:47 PM

Kyle, how are the chances that the STILLEN 370Z supercharger will be downward compatible (or adopted) to the VQ35HR engine?

Kyle@STILLEN 10-29-2009 06:49 PM

We are definitely keeping the 07-08 350's in mind when we develop this kit and we are hoping that it will be compatible but at this time I have absolutely no information on whether or not it fits. All I know is that our engineer's are keeping it in mind but I personally have not seen anything.

LiquidZ 10-29-2009 06:55 PM

I really need to find something else to follow on these forums. This wait is killing me.

Kyle@STILLEN 10-29-2009 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by LiquidZ (Post 258314)
I really need to find something else to follow on these forums. This wait is killing me.

Perhaps the Penske Coil over discussion?

Or the discussion on our front lip/splitter?

LOL!

Go to the men's adult section...That should keep you occupied for a little while!

LiquidZ 10-29-2009 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyle@STILLEN (Post 258318)
Perhaps the Penske Coil over discussion?

Or the discussion on our front lip/splitter?

LOL!

Go to the men's adult section...That should keep you occupied for a little while!

Can you discuss horsepower goals and/or stages?

1slow370 10-30-2009 06:53 AM

They can't discuss anything because they don't work like GTM. We should all stop asking questions and instead go back to doing what we were and ramble for pages about what we want the kit to do. Ecu tune, screw compressor, ease of install/maintenance (this had better be easier than installing those god damn headers, and i better not need the torch to make it fit right). Also a plus would be making the inter cooler area of the manifold come apart so that at a future time a larger and more efficient core could be installed with a higher hood. Or the ability to pour ice in the water system (big reservoir with large lid). Or get crazy and add meth injection to the stage 4 kit. I know you won't do most of that but hey throws some ideas on the table.

kannibul 10-30-2009 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 258909)
They can't discuss anything because they don't work like GTM. We should all stop asking questions and instead go back to doing what we were and ramble for pages about what we want the kit to do. Ecu tune, screw compressor, ease of install/maintenance (this had better be easier than installing those god damn headers, and i better not need the torch to make it fit right). Also a plus would be making the inter cooler area of the manifold come apart so that at a future time a larger and more efficient core could be installed with a higher hood. Or the ability to pour ice in the water system (big reservoir with large lid). Or get crazy and add meth injection to the stage 4 kit. I know you won't do most of that but hey throws some ideas on the table.

I don't understand the secrecy, it doesn't help them at all. If anything, it'd be productive because there are a lot of people on here that want certain products, and are quite knowledgable. Instead they are assuming they know what's best for the 370z market.

I don't doubt that Stillen will make a quality product, but, if they come out with, say, a centrifugal supercharger, well, good luck...I'll wait for someone who's doing a roots/twin-screw type that has immediate low-end gains...or, go to a turbo where I'll get more power...

Even then, with a 7AT, I don't know how much farther I'll push it...if I go past bolt-ons.

G3 intake, F.I. Cat Back, and likely their longtube headers...and that'd probably be it until someone does forced induction on a 7AT. (G37 or 370Z)

LiquidZ 10-30-2009 11:45 AM

I am keeping my fingers crossed for a TVS unit.

The performance of those blowers is remarkable.

Zsteve 10-30-2009 08:04 PM

Can you guys tell us what PSI range it will be running on?

Zsteve 10-30-2009 08:12 PM

Wouldnt the centrifugal be better for our cars as it continues to build as the rpms increase? I think we have pretty good TQ off the line as is without having to worry about spinning the wheels. I came from a small turbo that had tons of low end TQ (300lbs for a car under 3K pounds) and it was great but kinda petered out in the upper rpms, wouldnt that happen with the roots/twin screw or would those give low and high end power?

What might help us 7AT guys is to have launch control, anyone know if that is available for us?

Mike 10-30-2009 09:49 PM

I can only offer this. I had a stage 3 stollen on my 350 and installed two vortech systems on friends cars for them. I greatly preffered the stillens response over the centri. Then, when I got my C6, I did a vortech on that, and at Spring Mountain Corvette school, I drove a callaway roots style. On the vette, the centri felt better. The 370 has more low end than the 350, but I still think the roots will be a better option. Especially if they go with a TVS


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