Anyway back on topic, stillen must be hard at work on this supercharger, I have not heard anything from them in awhile, I wish I knew if the G3 intakes hooked up to the S/C?

point taken...

Iill look forward to GTM and Stillen solutions and answers!!!

^ why did you quote yourself? Stop talking up space in my thread. Do you even have a 370Z anyway cus it says you drive a BMW.

John

I don't think you are expecting too much, That is the way it should be and that is why we offer our GTM turn key so you can "set it and forget it " as you said .

-Our GTM Turn key solution whether TT or SC does not require a retune (maf tuning )

-Our engine management solution is done via flashing the factory ecu so basically you are getting the factory driveability just with a lot more power

Plus We are working on a good platform from the start, all those things will deliver what you are looking for and more ...All you have to do is just buy the GTM kit

Sam

STILLEN to use Eaton TVS?
 

First off, I VERY much like STILLEN's attitude of its finished when its right - the quality of the end product is missing in so many of the bolt on kits and I am glad to see STILLEN doing it right. Extremely encouraging to see you guys taking your time despite some of the competition having released their products already. Kudos (and probably a SC kit sale)!

On another thread you mentioned a possible change from the M62 to the M90 due to the new 3.7L motor but you never confirmed... I know you can't release all the details but I was wondering if you could confirm the use of a TVS style Eaton unit? I'm curious if you guys are staying with the old design or going for a real step up. If you are using a TVS, I will most def be buying a STILLEN SC kit. :eekdance:

Thanks!

~Throttle

I also like their attitude when it comes to releasing new products, including their S/C kit.

Now, I would certainly hope they will be using the Eaton TVS. It is a serious step forward.

agreed. the m62 and the m90 are horrible superchargers... i have the m62 on my balt and that bitch heat soaks like its cool. same for the m90 if you throw pullies on it

common m62? m90? even the m90 is only used on a production car making what 265 flywheel? Would have to pulley the hell out of them to get the airflow we need and they would be just like trying to use 10 heat guns for your intake charge.

m90's are perfect for V6 engines such are ours. The m112 goes on V8 engines like the Lightning and Cobra.

Heat is held in check through intercoolers/heat exchangers..

You guys really need to stick to subjects you have experience on. Everyone knows the M62 on a 350z was not properly sized, but the m90 is a good choice.

don't get me started on the m90. I do have experience with it including full custom kits and modified stock application cars. I that blower tops out at 400 without porting, and i don't think that stillen will be porting the ones it sells in the kit. Our v6 is in the flow range of larger engines and would do better with a larger blower.

Agreed.

I don't think you will see anything impressive with an M90, and even with an M112 you'll struggle to make similar power to GTM's modest TT setup. Figure the Terminator Cobra makes roughly 380 RWHP stock with an M112 at 8 PSI through a 4.6-liter DOHC 32-valve V8, and that blower on an engine pushing more air than the Z's runs out of steam approaching 500 RWHP.

I don't think any forced-induction setup on the 370Z will be worthwhile unless it will make at least 450 RWHP. Factor in the cost of parts/installation, supporting-mods, constant headache of what part will break next or tuning issues, powertrain warranty going out the door, etc...anything less, and you might as well stick with basic bolt-ons.

Wrong crowd.
 

My horsepower is bigger than yours! :tup:

Seriously, everyone that is waiting for the STILLEN SC kit to come out knows that the max horsepower gains are not going to be as high as a well done TT kit. Most of us don't want the headache of parts breaking, turbo timers, turbo lag in daily around town driving etc. What we do want is some more punch in our daily driver that comes in a well put together and thought out system.

I will give you guys this - from your angle, you are correct. The M62 is undersized and the M90 is questionable and does have heat problems when you start trying to push it. But if you are looking for some major gains, you should already know that this motor will do better with TTs than an SC so its a point that does not need to be brought up or argued.
*Beats the dead horse*

I've had both cars with SCs and TTs and for a daily driver, I prefer a SC. Heck I have an automatic trans (that is really damn cool btw) - OMG its a sports car crime! This is not, nor will ever be my super OMG ITS FAST LOOK AT ME! horsepower war platform and if you picked this as yours... you have already lost the game. So my friends, take your horsepower egos somewhere else and stop cluttering up this thread. :driving:

~Throttle

Hey all, just got a new Z, coming from the Audi TT, and I love the power but now Im wanting even more. When I had my Audi TT I just wanted under 5 secs 0 60 so thats why I went to the Z but now I want even lower but not a TT setup so I think the SC will do me great. My questions is there is no room in the engine compartment so will we have to get a new hood to accomendate (?) the SC? I really like the lines on the stock hood.

Z Steve,
A roots style will probably require some type of hood modification for clearance. STILLEN will most likey be using a roots sytle similar to what they used on the 350Z. That was an Eaton M62, hopefully they are using a new Eaton TVS style R1320 or an R1900 for the 370Z.

A centrifugal style won't require any hood modification. However, due to the dual side intake, a centrifugal style requires a little more hardware than you might think. GTM has a SC kit like this for the 370Z already. You may also want to check the thread about the Vortec SC as well.

~Throttle

sounds good I will have to read up on the GTM one and if Stillen can keep the hood lines then that might be so bad. I really do like the hood and roof lines as they add character to the car.

I picked my car up from Vortech on Friday, (they had it for over a week doing R&D) looks like they abandoned the idea of going centrifugal due to lack of space under the hood. :-(
They did mention the possibility of a twin screw mount, since they build them for other platforms. Only issue is the hood will have to be changed or modified. I'll be in touch with them about dropping the car off for the twin screw if/when they decide to move forward on it.

Keep pushing them to do it! :tup:

Thanks for all the info, Minicobra. Does Vortech want to know if 370Z owners would be willing to get a different hood like with the Stillen 350Z supercharger? Perhaps another poll is in order.

wasnt this a stillen supercharger thread? havnt looked in this thread in a while but it appears Stillen is still not giving anything up huh?

Looks like Stillen's going for a different approach than GTM and keeping it hush hush, I guess.

They don't want to release and hype up their stuff until it is completely finished and well tested. Its a different approach, thats all. It will be done when its done and I'm sure they are eager to get the kit out to us. Be patient, they will let us know as soon as its done and ready. Lots of research and planning going into this kit and they have their resources behind it. Be patient folks, its on its way.

+1...

I think Stillen got burned with the 350Z in releasing the kit first?

Either way, I think it's amazing that we have a couple of manufacturers on this forum that are contributing to various forms of forced induction.

GTM with their turbo kit...very appealing to jump on it now and have something no one else has, but, patience can sometimes be a good thing...

umm people already have the TT kit installed and running. I think Sebastian from palm beach had his first.

Sorry, I was speaking from a local(ish) standpoint...and being the (or among the) first is cool because you're breaking the ice for others to follow, but, you're also the first to have issues.

:)

if this supercharger is using eatons TVS.... i will buy asap

Different approaches, but props to both Stillen and GTM for developing forced induction options for the VQ37. Same with Greddy.

Just thought I'd jump in here and offer a little update.

I was walking through the shop last week and I saw an interesting site. The supercharger development car was running! The hood was closed! and I could see our engineers inside with their laptops! That's right folks, our supercharger is nearing completion! Shouldn't be much longer now!

Oh and for the record, we are working with a very reputable electronic tuning company to do all of our tuning directly through the ECU. No more piggyback? Could be!

Moaaarrrr!!

Thanks for the update. Hopefully more are on the way soon.

NIce, sounds great that the hood was closed....hummm. Does that mean you don't have to purchase another hood?

OMG, i love you kyle.

good to know!!

how about a teaser pic?

Our #1 goal on this project was to keep the entire package under the hood! So yes, you will be able to keep your factory hood.

Sorry, I can't do that right now. We're kind of keeping a tight lid on our exact supercharger of choice. I can say that it is a very reputable company and the kit is coming together beautifully. I think you will all be very impressed when it is completed. The intake manifold alone is a true work of art.

Screw the supercharger, I want to see the manifold :D

sounds like theres going to be 2 S/C systems on display at SEMA

ok, now your making me giddy like a schoolboy..:happydance:

Now thats what I want to hear, I get to keep my hood without mods to it. Are you including a intercooler or can it be an option? Is it a root or cintrifugal? And is ther room for the oil and trans coolers?

It looks like this thread is coming back to life ;) I can't wait to see all the goodies at Sema '09