i agree. they probably lost a TON on customers announcing so early. makes it seem like they are, well, not for real........or cant finish the job. based on their old s/c systems, i think ill be waiting for vortech.

Has anyone consitered that Stillen would do a Twin Charger system for the 370? I was looking at the TT/TS GT-R and I would think the TS would work good with the DTB's

no twin supercharges PLZ

It was a great daily driver, felt just like a V8 with all the low end torque.
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/5...1mediumzr4.jpg

Plus it sounded awesome! (if the video loads)
YouTube - 2003zatVIR

Well STILLEN didnt announce it per se, they just posted they had something in development when this thread came up.

It's a tough call for businesses, especially ones that are in such a fickle environment as cars. If businesses don't let people know they're at least working on a solution, customers will completely ignore them and some other company will steal their thunder (and profit). If businesses announce they're working on a solution but take a long time in achieving it, customers get cranky, call foul or vaporware, and the business loses customers/profit. It's a fine line, and I don't envy them having to ride it...

That said, if you're going to announce a solution is being worked on, it is generally in your best interest to give people a 10,000 foot view of the schedule and any major roadblocks you're hitting. If the product is in active development (not a sideline), you should be able to say if you're 1 month, 3 months, 6 months out from a boxed solution. I can understand being vague on pricing, but that should be announced with a +/-10% window within the last month of development... at that point, you know what all of the parts/labor cost, you're simply fine tuning.

I think they are running into some big issues and are still trying to figure them out. This would explain the closed mouth, cloak and dagger condition we are all experincing from them and not to mention the lack of even a long shot of a release date. I don't see how they can meet those goals given the low clearance of the 370 hood.

I heard from one of the Stillen sales reps that the main goal was to get the supercharger to fit under the stock hood. Second goal was to allow Stillen mods such as the Gen3 CAI to connect up to it. This was all I was told, nothing else such as power output or price.

^^^interesting. Cant imagine how in the hell the intake would be in the stock location though with a supercharger?

I guess it could if they replace the plenum with an integrated supercharger unit, like on the ZR1.

ohhh now you are getting me all excited :) but lets do more speculating - maybe it will make them spill the beans sooner :)

I highly doubt that will be the case. There is no reason to design a system with twins that would equal more tubing, more heat under the engine bay and add the cost of a second head unit, mounting bracket and supporting hardware not to mention there's no room for it!

It is much more effective to either integrate it into the manifold like the ZR1, cobras, gt500's, or cast an y pipe that makes the DTB's feed a single inlet for the supercharger

I'll buy any kind of hood for my car to fit the SC if the SC is legit :)

why would you need a Y pipe? you can solve the problem with an intercooler. One inlet and two exits.

So, hood clearance and strut bar issues? Basically the same problems as the 350Z kit? And why is this such a big deal again?

Wow that is a great idea I didnt even think about that!

C'mon, Josh. Some teaser pics won't cause more hype about the SC's output, price, etc. right? ;)

This is how rumors get started...

I heard that development is moving better than expected... I wish I knew more, but they are staying tight lipped with this one.

that is true...i heard big foot is testing the 370 with the supercharger :bowrofl:

Frankly, after looking at the collection of verified 1/4-mile times of 350Z on the other forum...I am not impressed. The only Stillen supercharged Z on the list, an '03 6-speed "Stage 2", ran a 13.22 @ 110 MPH. The rest of the supercharged cars aren't anything to rave about, either. They are running on average mid to high-12s at 110-113 MPH...hardly impressive for a sports-car nowadays, and not impressive at all considering the cost/work/headache of such extensive modification.

It seems to me that if you want a fast Z, you put up the money (and headache) of building the motor and going with a proper turbo setup, or stay content with minor bolt-ons. Staying in that middle-ground looks like nothing more than a complete waste of time.

I'll eat my words when I start to see 370Zs running 116+ MPH with a supercharger, bolt-ons, and a tune.

Not everybody wants a supercharger for the track. I want one for daily driven power thats reliable. A TT will not be good for either. And keep in mind a 600whp G37 ran a mid/low 12 second pass. Wont be easy breaking 11's, even TT'ed. And last time I checked, low 12's aint no slouch by any means. Also, understand that the VQ37 is a more responsive, higher displacement engine than the DE, that same Stg 2 kit would make more power on the 370. Also, not everybody can throw around 20 Gs which would be approximate total cost for a TT build.

^Good point, but the 370Z is such a better car, with a s/c, bolt-ons + tune, the car will def be a beast, I've been in a 350Z that had a vortech S/C + bolt-ons/tune and it was one of the fastest cars i've been in, so I def know who ever supercharges a 370Z should be more then happy with the results :)

I never mentioned anything about a track. I would never track a car with forced-induction that came NA from the factory.

Which is why I'm not fixated on E.T. as it is relatively meaningless to me. What does matter however is trap-speed, where the data is equally as unimpressive.

I agree that not everyone has $20K+ to throw at a proper turbo setup, and even if they do...I'm sure they have more sense than to spend that much on engine-modifications when they could have bought a faster car to begin with (LOL...like one just as fast as the end-product in bone-stock trim, for less than G37/370 MSRP + $20K). Still, going forced-induction, even with a kit marketed as "relaible" which only nets you an extra <80 RWHP makes little sense to me. From what I've seen thus far, the gains from SC setups do not warrant the cost when you compare it a bolt-on car.

to each their own I guess, but 450whp to me is solid, reliable, daily driven power. I dont require much more. Now, should I want more, a smaller pulley, meth injection, tune, etc, 550-600whp is easily doable. Good power gains at half the cost. No lag, just balls out demonic juice with the stomp of a foot. BRING ON THE SUPERCHARGER JOSH!!!!!

this thread must just make the folks over at Stillen crack up, more power to you all...

Lol true ^ I'm just glad they are even on these boards, it's def cool to get to talk to the people that make these parts

I'd rather have a 450whp reliable car with a flatter torque curve I can use than a dyno/highway queen. 600whp for 500rpm is not faster than 450whp for 3k RPM. Nor is it as drivable, nor is it as predictable and it will be slower getting up to speed (lag/traction issues)....granted it will come back after 3rd gear and kill the 450whp car on top end, but how usable is that...

:iagree:

very usable! im a big fan of turbos, but a supercharger could do this car well. alot of ppl were very disappointed with the stillen stage 3/4 supercharger kit for the 350. this engine seems to respond to mods completely differently, so im hoping it does well. and stillen has great quality and customer service. i think more than half of us on here that have modded have at least one stillen part.

fwiw the g37 that ran 12.x DID NOT have 600whp - that was the racegas tune

Hey Guys,

We are definitely working on this. Without question the announcement of the release of this kit was in no way an official announcement from STILLEN. Some random guy who is in no way affiliated with STILLEN had posted up that they were going to be running a STILLEN supercharger on a One Lap of America 370Z and that made everyone think we were hiding something when really, we had only just begun development.

We then had to push development back a little bit because of the GT-R race car. We had a very tight deadline to build, test, and prepare that car for the rally and unfortunately, other projects got pushed to the side until we could complete the GT-R. But, now the GT-R is finished, it's out of sight out of mind and we're full throttle again on the forced induction solution for the VQ37.

Like Josh said, it's great to see all of the positive feedback and all of the interest/demand. We won't disapoint you with this kit and I'm sure you will all love it!

I beg of you on my knees to go twinscrew if it's still early development. Oh and pressure haltech into making a platinum pro ecu as well. Also a 500+ stage 4 for those of us in the 47 contiguous states that don't have San Fransisco in them and don't know what an exhaust probe looks like or does.

Frankly, I could not care less about CARB exemption. It would be nice if they would have an "unrestricted" version of thir products without having to hold back and cater to CARB requirements while maintaing the Stillen reliability/warranty.

For what it's worth, I'm 20 miles south of San Francisco and even have views of it from my property. Ask me if I care about smog-tests and/or CARB.

exactly what I'm sayin man. They need to make a "Stage Balls Out" or a "Stage FTMFW" Personally if I owned a mod company there would be a regular and a "Bubba's gonna bend that Camaro over and make it his B***H! kit"

It is called a pulley change..

the pulley change on the last stillen kit got you 450hp not what i would call a real stage 4

Lots of peeps don't want the hassle of finding and paying a shady smog place to pass them, though.

or, a blower change if you followed the last S/C kit. blower was undersized for anything more than 350rwhp.

It has absolutely nothing to do with paying off a "shady smog place."

C'mon, now...just try to imagine how many highly modified late-model cars there are driving around the LA or Bay Area. From Supras and Evos to Corvettes and Vipers...do you really think these cammed, straight-piped, upgraded-turbo cars are all returned back to stock for a smog-test? On that note, do you really think the only people who drive modded cars are the ones with "hook ups" at "shady smog places" and everyone else is SOL?

No.

LOL, of course heavily modded cars aren't returned to stock every time they have a smog check. Who ever said they did? Most with heavily modded cars have a hook-up at a smog shop and pay them extra under the table to pass them. Several people I know do. If you're saying that it's cheap and easy to do this, that's fine for you, however, I guarantee that there are many that simply don't wanna deal with this.

The beauty of NY... hook up the OBDII, so long as you haven't thrown a CEL recently, you pass. :D