Stillen Supercharger estimates???

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I wasn't going to start a cali fight here but could you look a person in the eye and honestly say that C.A.R.B regulations are good for the automotive aftermarket and that you in no way didn't wish that you didn't have to find someway around the LAW in order to customize your vehicle the way you want? When the law keeps you from doing something you want to do that doesn't directly endanger others(Co2 isn't going to jump out and knife a baby especially when the airlines and power plants produce an amount that makes the performance car market simple a political buffalo) I'm sorry but I and the rest of America call that ghey and an impingement of my FREEDOMS.
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People said the same thing when smog stuff came on the market. However, go to a big city in the US and compare the air to a big city in China. Yeah, you're right - this looks like a pretty sweet way to live:

http://employees.oneonta.edu/allenth...TracyAllen.JPG

I, for one, am glad we can actually see the sun here. We work around the smog stuff and lose a few horsepower, but cars are still faster today than they ever have been.

And you people on the freedom high horse have obviously never heard of the Tragedy of the Commons (Tragedy of the commons - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia), which shows how everyone will exploit personal benefit to the detriment of all (including, in the end, themselves). The *only* solution to the tragedy of the commons is some form of group regulation. Personally, I don't like governments, but they have their place (like, say, fire departments). And one of those places is governance of the commons. Since your decision to dump crap into the air, rivers, and oceans affects me, I want us all to agree on a standard we want our air, rivers, and oceans to live up to, and implement appropriate regulations. In a highly populated state, those regulations will need to be more restrictive than a place with lower population density.

I know my opinion is unpopular with childish blowhards like Beck and Limbaugh, who want you to think that all regulations are scary and that evil taxes are bad (unless they want to steal our money to fight pointless wars) - but regulations and taxes are how we have air that is breathable, clean water to drink, and yes, roads to drive on (damned commie interstate highway system, stealing money from people who don't even drive!).

That same regurgitated Ayn Randian BS will tell you that everyone else is out to get you, forgetting all the good you get from public commons. Your ability to make a good living: that comes from regulation. The fact that if your house catches on fire, someone will come to put it out: regulation. The fact that you are defended and allowed to spout absurdity on a message board: that comes from regulation too. Laws can be freedom-creating as well as freedom-impinging, and we need to stand up as Americans and say that a better world is good for all of us, and that it doesn't mean communism.

So I'm sorry that California laws have hampered your ability to get pretty toys - I don't see them hampering that ability by much. And since you're using Ghey as a derogative, I'll let you in on a little secret: if you want to support freedom, then why not support other people's right to marry whomever the h-ll they want without draconian Christian mythology about Sodom and Gomorrah determining who can bugger who and in what orifice.

I guess I'm a hippie commie because I don't want to live in a wasteland where people screw each other over at every turn to get some two-bit trinket.

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NewYorkJon34

Please get back on topic, and stop hijacking my thread, thanks

TARDCORE

I thought it was. I was just wondering since I figured stillen probably has had this project in dev since the Z was released. I just wondered the time frame diff between the 350 and 370.

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CBRich

Don't think he was speaking at you Tardcore. To stay on topic Stillen posted on their blog here that the open house was postponed until May partly due to the 370Z supercharger not being ready. It will instead happen in May and they hope to unveil the system then.

NewYorkJon34

Ya, I was not talking about you tardcore, sry if you thought I was. I had a feeling this this wasn't being unveiled intill around April oh well, I hope stillen leaks some info from time to time leading up to May.

StillenZ

Wow, so I finally catch up with all of the posts that I want to read, get to this point on the post and I'm hearing April and May ... I kept thinking I would get to the end of November on the posts and tah-dah... how disappointing.

Kyle@STILLEN

Hey Guys,

Couple quick things. Really the only thing that drastically changes between the CARB and non-CARB legality is that we have to run a few extra tests during our tuning time. Also, the maximum amount of boost that we can take the kit to and still get through CARB testing is below the safety limit for the stock motor. So even if we did want to put on a smaller pulley and crank out more power, we're starting to get into unsafe levels of boost anyways. If you wanted to build yourself an engine and go from there, having a custom cut pulley really should be no extra expense. Also, we are hoping to include a very nice surprise that will make those of you East coasters who don't need to worry about CARB happy.

Like I said, we wanted to have this kit out a month or two ago but unfortunately due to some other projects including SEMA show, the Targa Newfoundland Rally in the GT R and the introduction of the carbon ceramic brakes for the GT R, we had some delays.

Please keep in mind that this engine is unlike anything else on the market. Working with the dual throttle bodies and limited space (less space on the Z's and G's than on the 350's and G35's, the engineering is having to get pretty tricky. It's all coming along very well and we're optimistic that we'll have a release party soon! LOL.

Thank you very much for your patience and support! I promise you, you will not be disappointed when we release this. Would you rather us hurry up and rush out a crap product or make sure that everything is perfect before release?

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Seems to be the thing I hear the most.

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Buddy Revell

Great to hear, Kyle. Thanks for the update!

One_Quick_Z

Good to hear the progress!



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kannibul

My question will continue to be, will the installation of this kit be exclusive to 6MT owners?

I don't want my 7AT to blow itself up...at least, not before someone comes out with upgrades for it...

CBRich

Until someone actually blows up a 7AT it may be hard to know what it can or can not handle.

Kyle@STILLEN

This is pretty much the true statement...

Will the kit bolt up to the 7AT? Yes, we will design the kit to work with both automatic and manual vehicle's. However, as far as reliability we won't know until we try it.

I don't have any concerns at this time though. The transmissions on the 350's and G's held up well to the power of the supercharger's. It wasn't until you started getting over the 400+ RWHP number that we started seeing issues with the auto trans.

imag

I take that to mean you won't be at 400 RWHP. *sigh*

Thanks for the updates though!

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