Stillen Supercharger estimates???

6MT · 10-29-2009, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyle@STILLEN

Sorry guys,

We don't like to give out much information until we are 100% ready to launch the product. There are many reasons for this but here are some of the primary reasons.

1) Things change...Right now we're in the prototype stages and very few parts are 100% locked down. We have a solid foundation and we feel like we are going in the right direction but if we find that something needs to be changed during our testing then there was no point in even talking about it to begin with. If we start saying what we're using and something changes then it only confuses the people who are late to the discussion. We have all seen threads (especially 12 page long threads

) where information gets lost or confused or misinterpreted later in the thread.

2) Protection...We are very proud of our engineering and we have had numerous people rip off our designs. We like to keep our investments and our engineering in house rather than give it to the world before we bring it to market.

Silo · 10-29-2009, 04:47 PM

Kyle, how are the chances that the STILLEN 370Z supercharger will be downward compatible (or adopted) to the VQ35HR engine?

Kyle@STILLEN · 10-29-2009, 06:49 PM

We are definitely keeping the 07-08 350's in mind when we develop this kit and we are hoping that it will be compatible but at this time I have absolutely no information on whether or not it fits. All I know is that our engineer's are keeping it in mind but I personally have not seen anything.

LiquidZ · 10-29-2009, 06:55 PM

I really need to find something else to follow on these forums. This wait is killing me.

Kyle@STILLEN · 10-29-2009, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by LiquidZ

I really need to find something else to follow on these forums. This wait is killing me.

Perhaps the Penske Coil over discussion?

Or the discussion on our front lip/splitter?

LOL!

Go to the men's adult section...That should keep you occupied for a little while!

LiquidZ · 10-29-2009, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyle@STILLEN

Perhaps the Penske Coil over discussion?

Or the discussion on our front lip/splitter?

LOL!

Go to the men's adult section...That should keep you occupied for a little while!

Can you discuss horsepower goals and/or stages?

1slow370 · 10-30-2009, 06:53 AM

They can't discuss anything because they don't work like GTM. We should all stop asking questions and instead go back to doing what we were and ramble for pages about what we want the kit to do. Ecu tune, screw compressor, ease of install/maintenance (this had better be easier than installing those god damn headers, and i better not need the torch to make it fit right). Also a plus would be making the inter cooler area of the manifold come apart so that at a future time a larger and more efficient core could be installed with a higher hood. Or the ability to pour ice in the water system (big reservoir with large lid). Or get crazy and add meth injection to the stage 4 kit. I know you won't do most of that but hey throws some ideas on the table.

kannibul · 10-30-2009, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1slow370

They can't discuss anything because they don't work like GTM. We should all stop asking questions and instead go back to doing what we were and ramble for pages about what we want the kit to do. Ecu tune, screw compressor, ease of install/maintenance (this had better be easier than installing those god damn headers, and i better not need the torch to make it fit right). Also a plus would be making the inter cooler area of the manifold come apart so that at a future time a larger and more efficient core could be installed with a higher hood. Or the ability to pour ice in the water system (big reservoir with large lid). Or get crazy and add meth injection to the stage 4 kit. I know you won't do most of that but hey throws some ideas on the table.

I don't understand the secrecy, it doesn't help them at all. If anything, it'd be productive because there are a lot of people on here that want certain products, and are quite knowledgable. Instead they are assuming they know what's best for the 370z market.

I don't doubt that Stillen will make a quality product, but, if they come out with, say, a centrifugal supercharger, well, good luck...I'll wait for someone who's doing a roots/twin-screw type that has immediate low-end gains...or, go to a turbo where I'll get more power...

Even then, with a 7AT, I don't know how much farther I'll push it...if I go past bolt-ons.

G3 intake, F.I. Cat Back, and likely their longtube headers...and that'd probably be it until someone does forced induction on a 7AT. (G37 or 370Z)

LiquidZ · 10-30-2009, 11:45 AM

I am keeping my fingers crossed for a TVS unit.

The performance of those blowers is remarkable.

Zsteve · 10-30-2009, 08:04 PM

Can you guys tell us what PSI range it will be running on?

Zsteve · 10-30-2009, 08:12 PM

Wouldnt the centrifugal be better for our cars as it continues to build as the rpms increase? I think we have pretty good TQ off the line as is without having to worry about spinning the wheels. I came from a small turbo that had tons of low end TQ (300lbs for a car under 3K pounds) and it was great but kinda petered out in the upper rpms, wouldnt that happen with the roots/twin screw or would those give low and high end power?

What might help us 7AT guys is to have launch control, anyone know if that is available for us?

Mike · 10-30-2009, 09:49 PM

I can only offer this. I had a stage 3 stollen on my 350 and installed two vortech systems on friends cars for them. I greatly preffered the stillens response over the centri. Then, when I got my C6, I did a vortech on that, and at Spring Mountain Corvette school, I drove a callaway roots style. On the vette, the centri felt better. The 370 has more low end than the 350, but I still think the roots will be a better option. Especially if they go with a TVS

NewYorkJon34 · 10-31-2009, 12:17 AM

Either way, my goal is to have a Stillen supercharger (hopefully twin-screw) pushing 450whp/350tq.

imag · 11-23-2009, 07:15 PM

Totally unfounded speculation follows:

I was wondering today if this S/C is proving more tricky than they thought. Stillen knows that many people would want to track the car with the S/C on it and will keep that in mind when designing it. With all the issues cooling the stock motor, it may be difficult to find a way to keep it trackworthy with boost...

There may also be the CARB issues. They know we want 400 rwhp. That may be difficult to achieve and keep it CA legal.

Anyway, as I say, pure speculation... sorry if anyone came here hoping for an update.

Zsteve · 11-23-2009, 08:16 PM

I think part of it is to keep stock hood too, so they have to work around that also. Im not sure how much a regular SC give HP wise but with bolt ons we are at 300+ rwhp, so a SC would need to produce 80 - 100 rwhp. Im fine with 70 rwhp but the price would have to reflect the lower hp. I also wouldnt mind a slight mod to the hood as long as it keeps the lines it has on it if that would make it so they could use the other types of SCs.

10-29-2009, 06:55 PM	#4 (permalink)
LiquidZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 1,940 Drives: Mag. Black 2009 370Z Rep Power: 705	I really need to find something else to follow on these forums. This wait is killing me. __________________

10-30-2009, 11:45 AM	#9 (permalink)
LiquidZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 1,940 Drives: Mag. Black 2009 370Z Rep Power: 705	I am keeping my fingers crossed for a TVS unit. The performance of those blowers is remarkable. __________________ Last edited by LiquidZ; 10-30-2009 at 12:06 PM.

10-30-2009, 08:04 PM	#10 (permalink)
Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: TX Posts: 3,298 Drives: the 2 balled club Rep Power: 22	Can you guys tell us what PSI range it will be running on? __________________ 2010 LS3 C6 Silver coupe corvette

10-30-2009, 08:12 PM	#11 (permalink)
Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: TX Posts: 3,298 Drives: the 2 balled club Rep Power: 22	Wouldnt the centrifugal be better for our cars as it continues to build as the rpms increase? I think we have pretty good TQ off the line as is without having to worry about spinning the wheels. I came from a small turbo that had tons of low end TQ (300lbs for a car under 3K pounds) and it was great but kinda petered out in the upper rpms, wouldnt that happen with the roots/twin screw or would those give low and high end power? What might help us 7AT guys is to have launch control, anyone know if that is available for us? __________________ 2010 LS3 C6 Silver coupe corvette

10-30-2009, 09:49 PM	#12 (permalink)
Mike The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Loganville, GA Posts: 5,944 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 2187	I can only offer this. I had a stage 3 stollen on my 350 and installed two vortech systems on friends cars for them. I greatly preffered the stillens response over the centri. Then, when I got my C6, I did a vortech on that, and at Spring Mountain Corvette school, I drove a callaway roots style. On the vette, the centri felt better. The 370 has more low end than the 350, but I still think the roots will be a better option. Especially if they go with a TVS __________________ NISSAN: 75 280Z / 86 300ZX GLL /87 Sentra SE / 03 350Z / 23 Z Porsche: 93 968 / 23 Macan GTS / 93 968

10-29-2009, 04:47 PM	#2 (permalink)
Silo Base Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Germany Age: 51 Posts: 38 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 17	Kyle, how are the chances that the STILLEN 370Z supercharger will be downward compatible (or adopted) to the VQ35HR engine?

10-29-2009, 06:49 PM	#3 (permalink)
Kyle@STILLEN The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Newport Beach Posts: 626 Drives: Toyota Tundra Rep Power: 307	We are definitely keeping the 07-08 350's in mind when we develop this kit and we are hoping that it will be compatible but at this time I have absolutely no information on whether or not it fits. All I know is that our engineer's are keeping it in mind but I personally have not seen anything.

10-30-2009, 06:53 AM	#7 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7251	They can't discuss anything because they don't work like GTM. We should all stop asking questions and instead go back to doing what we were and ramble for pages about what we want the kit to do. Ecu tune, screw compressor, ease of install/maintenance (this had better be easier than installing those god damn headers, and i better not need the torch to make it fit right). Also a plus would be making the inter cooler area of the manifold come apart so that at a future time a larger and more efficient core could be installed with a higher hood. Or the ability to pour ice in the water system (big reservoir with large lid). Or get crazy and add meth injection to the stage 4 kit. I know you won't do most of that but hey throws some ideas on the table.

10-31-2009, 12:17 AM	#13 (permalink)
NewYorkJon34 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 3,041 Drives: 09 Fairlady Z Rep Power: 1066	Either way, my goal is to have a Stillen supercharger (hopefully twin-screw) pushing 450whp/350tq.

11-23-2009, 07:15 PM	#14 (permalink)
imag Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Oakland, CA Posts: 446 Drives: up the wall Rep Power: 17	Totally unfounded speculation follows: I was wondering today if this S/C is proving more tricky than they thought. Stillen knows that many people would want to track the car with the S/C on it and will keep that in mind when designing it. With all the issues cooling the stock motor, it may be difficult to find a way to keep it trackworthy with boost... There may also be the CARB issues. They know we want 400 rwhp. That may be difficult to achieve and keep it CA legal. Anyway, as I say, pure speculation... sorry if anyone came here hoping for an update. __________________ Stillen CBE, Stillen track cooler, Stillen Gen3 Intakes, B&M short shift kit

11-23-2009, 08:16 PM	#15 (permalink)
Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: TX Posts: 3,298 Drives: the 2 balled club Rep Power: 22	I think part of it is to keep stock hood too, so they have to work around that also. Im not sure how much a regular SC give HP wise but with bolt ons we are at 300+ rwhp, so a SC would need to produce 80 - 100 rwhp. Im fine with 70 rwhp but the price would have to reflect the lower hp. I also wouldnt mind a slight mod to the hood as long as it keeps the lines it has on it if that would make it so they could use the other types of SCs. __________________ 2010 LS3 C6 Silver coupe corvette

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