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Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk I beg to differ, TSC's look even more badass That does look pretty beastly. There is only one issue. When someone happens to see under the

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Old 05-04-2013, 12:10 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I beg to differ, TSC's look even more badass

That does look pretty beastly. There is only one issue. When someone happens to see under the hood with your setup, they will be like "OH Snap SUN!" as opposed to when they look under mine and only see some aluminum piping and some red cap looking thingies, lol.

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Do you have first hand experience with the stillen kit?
If not then you don't really have an opinion that matters, I have talked with several stillen supercharger owners, both for the 350z and 370z and everyone I have talked to loves their kit. In fact I just was at stillen a few days ago and went for a ride in their 370z with the 50state legal supercharger and it puts down power smoothly(and reliabily from what i have been told by owners)

Sure i have read some bad things online but I usually take everything said here(and the internet in general) with a grain of salt, and I recommend everyone else do the same.

Oh and please don't derail the thread, we don't need another stillen vs GTM thread...

I do have first hand experience on the kit actually lol. My friends 350z has it. I went with him when Stillen first installed the kit, the second time when he changed the pulley out,and the third time when he blew the motor and had to get it fully built. First of all Stillen wouldn't give him his carb sticker, and never will because he had test pipes which they never told him about. They claim you need to get tuned with stock cats, then switch them out if you actually want to make any kind of power, to get the carb sticker. Second of all their tune and customer service is complete **** lol. It's a joke. Don't get me started on the design of the kit either... Now he has a fully built motor and makes horrible numbers because the supercharger kit is such a pos. Even the tuner said the kit is complete garbage and will not make power even if he were to switch out the blower and run 20+psi. The guy that built the motor for my friend even said the kit is a complete pos. if one of the best Z tuners in the world, and a guy that builds motors for a living both equally agree on how bad stillens kit is, then it's pretty safe to say it's garbage. We all had a good laugh talking about it. Waste of money IMO. Stillen also doesn't warranty their kit, even though they tuned the car in house. Oh well, people don't have to listen to me. All I know is that I would never put that kit on my car in a million years.
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I do have first hand experience on the kit actually lol. My friends 350z has it. I went with him when Stillen first installed the kit, the second time when he changed the pulley out,and the third time when he blew the motor and had to get it fully built. First of all Stillen wouldn't give him his carb sticker, and never will because he had test pipes which they never told him about. They claim you need to get tuned with stock cats, then switch them out if you actually want to make any kind of power, to get the carb sticker. Second of all their tune and customer service is complete **** lol. It's a joke. Don't get me started on the design of the kit either... Now he has a fully built motor and makes horrible numbers because the supercharger kit is such a pos. Even the tuner said the kit is complete garbage and will not make power even if he were to switch out the blower and run 20+psi. The guy that built the motor for my friend even said the kit is a complete pos. if one of the best Z tuners in the world, and a guy that builds motors for a living both equally agree on how bad stillens kit is, then it's pretty safe to say it's garbage. We all had a good laugh talking about it. Waste of money IMO. Stillen also doesn't warranty their kit, even though they tuned the car in house. Oh well, people don't have to listen to me. All I know is that I would never put that kit on my car in a million years.
iirc your friend having the kit doesnt mean you have the kit now does it?

if thats the definition of first hand then i must have first hand experience with the alpha 12 GTR, the stillen kits, turbo hondas, muscle cars and modding supras because my friends have those cars and i am always around them...

now im not doubting your friends experience, but out of everyone i have met and talked to either on the internet and in person at car meets, they have loved the kit and had no regrets about buying it, and in fact my uncle has the stage 4 stillen supercharger on his G35 and his car has been pushing strong since he installed it and if you want to stay away from stillen because of your friends experience then more power to you, but dont go around saying the kit sucks, the design sucks(seriously i dont get how the kit is designed poorly, its designed like any other OEM system which is draw through and not blow through like after market systems) when you don't even have it installed on your car

oh there is a whole lot more to modding then numbers, sure a 800whp big single turbo supra sounds amazing, but in all reality that car is not a good street car(because its all top end), there is a difference between a good track car and a good street car

A good track car needs better top end because you are never down low while on a track(besides starting), while a good street car needs lots of down low torque and the way i look at it is, you can have a dyno queen and talk numbers all day long, or you can have a car that makes less power up top but more power down low where most people need it

now im not saying the GTM kit sucks and the stillen kit rules or twin turbo 370zs suck, or single turbo 370zs suck as i dont have first hand experience with either kit but to say the stillen kit(or even the GTM kit for that matter) sucks when you never had the kit installed is not right, thats like saying verizon sucks, tmobile rules when you have been on sprint your whole life

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iirc your friend having the kit doesnt mean you have the kit now does it?

if thats the definition of first hand then i must have first hand experience with the alpha 12 GTR, the stillen kits, turbo hondas, muscle cars and modding supras because my friends have those cars and i am always around them...

now im not doubting your friends experience, but out of everyone i have met and talked to either on the internet and in person at car meets, they have loved the kit and had no regrets about buying it, and in fact my uncle has the stage 4 stillen supercharger on his G35 and his car has been pushing strong since he installed it and if you want to stay away from stillen because of your friends experience then more power to you, but dont go around saying the kit sucks, the design sucks(seriously i dont get how the kit is designed poorly, its designed like any other OEM system which is draw through and not blow through like after market systems) when you don't even have it installed on your car

oh there is a whole lot more to modding then numbers, sure a 800whp big single turbo supra sounds amazing, but in all reality that car is not a good street car(because its all top end), there is a difference between a good track car and a good street car

A good track car needs better top end because you are never down low while on a track(besides starting), while a good street car needs lots of down low torque and the way i look at it is, you can have a dyno queen and talk numbers all day long, or you can have a car that makes less power up top but more power down low where most people need it

now im not saying the GTM kit sucks and the stillen kit rules or twin turbo 370zs suck, or single turbo 370zs suck as i dont have first hand experience with either kit but to say the stillen kit(or even the GTM kit for that matter) sucks when you never had the kit installed is not right, thats like saying verizon sucks, tmobile rules when you have been on sprint your whole life

Like you said, take it as a grain of salt. Even if I was in the same senario as my friend and said the exact same thing, you would still come off saying I don't have experience. I see the car just as much as my own Z lol, iv driven it more times then I can count. My opinion stands that the Stillen kit sucks. If you don't like my opinion, then simply don't comment back your the one derailing the thread by throwing out different types of cars and other companies while your the one that said not to start it in the first place haha. This is why I don't like commenting on here because when I give my opinion, everyone gets all but thirst when what I'm saying pertains to them. No one has to listen or take what I say to heart. So what your saying is that I cannot comment on ANYTHING that i don't personally have? I really didnt read anything you wrote but I'm guessing you have the Stillen kit since your defending it so much? If not then you are not allowed to talk about it because your opinion doesn't matter. You also can't talk about other cars because you do not own them. Lol that's basically what your telling me. Durrr durrr durrr
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You can run a wastegate setup with a boost controller and a small pulley on a supercharger. It makes it ramp up faster, and you will get a decent improvement in torque. Plus it gives you the option to run the boost up and down. I dont think anyone is running a setup like this on a supercharged Z yet.
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that's Wayne(dixoncider) beast vert... very nice.
I'm am so bringing the Red Devil to STL when I get the twins on her.... I think it's just a personal preference. The twin turbo/single the power is waiting for you to wake it up. With a supercharger it's always awake. So to speak. With the weather in Missouri, as an example it was 80 degrees one day and within 20 hours it was snowing, I think the twins would be a better option since it's only a dial turn away to lower the boost and power. Same in reverse. Just my
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Op,

Looks like you've gotten pretty good responses along with clutter that has been removed.

I can only also suggest to look over the FI for Noobs sticky threads for addition questions.



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