GTM Performance Engineering: MHI Twin Turbo Official Release

Mike@GTM · 10-03-2013, 08:11 PM

UPDATE: First off, I apologize for the delay in getting the schedule up on the boards. Sam had to have an emergency brain surgery last Thursday. As some of you know, he had broken his leg a little while back. Unfortunately, a blood clot formed in his leg and traveled up to his brain which caused some serious neurological issues. Last week, his condition worsened and he ended up having to take a ride in the ambulance to the ICU. The surgery was a success and thankfully, Sam is alive and on the road to recovery. While he is healing, he is not able to be here 24/7 like he used to, so please bear with us as Sam gets better and back up to 100%.

Now, for some good news: as a reward for bearing with us for as long as many of you have, we are offering the Garrett ball bearing turbos as a no-cost upgrade to those that want some ball bearing goodness.

Normally, this would be quite a bit more expensive, but we are offering it to those that want to take advantage of it. For comparison purposes, the 16g is comparable to the GT2860RS turbos with a 0.64 A/R turbine housing. The 18g is similar in response to the GT2860RS with the 0.86 A/R turbine housing in terms of response, but the 18g has an advantage in power. That said, the stock engine is realistically only capable of sustaining up to ~630chp for a daily driven application. So, even though the 2860RS turbos with the 0.86 A/R turbine housings are “only” capable of 700chp and the 18g turbos are capable of 800chp, it’s a moot point on a stock engine. Now, if you are going to be running a built engine and want a turbo comparable to the 18g, then Garrett’s GT2871R with the 0.64 A/R turbine housing is the answer. That said, it is a significantly more expensive turbo and we simply cannot offer it as a free upgrade at this price point, but as a $400 upgrade.

We will be posting a schedule as soon as Sam and I have an opportunity to catch up on the expected delivery times from our suppliers.

m3chhawk · 10-03-2013, 08:19 PM

Well that's ironic (Garrett bb upgrade) given the conversation here today....

Anyway, there are things in life that are far more important than boost. Best of luck to Sam and a speedy recovery.

SPOHN · 10-03-2013, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by m3chhawk

Well that's ironic (Garrett bb upgrade)

That's why I threw it out there like that.

I told you guys would be happy. Now this kit will be kicking a$$. Now who has the best bang for the buck?

Mkai0 · 10-03-2013, 08:43 PM

Hope Sam gets well soon.

Dzel · 10-03-2013, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by m3chhawk

Well that's ironic (Garrett bb upgrade) given the conversation here today....

Anyway, there are things in life that are far more important than boost. Best of luck to Sam and a speedy recovery.

This decision had been made way before we had our little talk today. Either way your out.

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m3chhawk · 10-03-2013, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Dzel

This decision had been made way before we had our little talk today. Either way your out.

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Yes, I realize that... I was saying it was ironic because the ball bearing debate was started by someone "not in the know". Also, I was never in. I've been committed to my turbo build for awhile now. You know the one you were committed to before this one, but after the other one.

Enjoy your apparent sense of entitlement?

tower74 · 10-03-2013, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dzel

This decision had been made way before we had our little talk today. Either way your out.

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That was me that was out.....

Chuck33079 · 10-03-2013, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike@GTM

UPDATE: First off, I apologize for the delay in getting the schedule up on the boards. Sam had to have an emergency brain surgery last Thursday. As some of you know, he had broken his leg a little while back. Unfortunately, a blood clot formed in his leg and traveled up to his brain which caused some serious neurological issues. Last week, his condition worsened and he ended up having to take a ride in the ambulance to the ICU. The surgery was a success and thankfully, Sam is alive and on the road to recovery. While he is healing, he is not able to be here 24/7 like he used to, so please bear with us as Sam gets better and back up to 100%.

Wow. That's pretty damn scary. Glad he pulled through. That's something that can end you in a hurry. Pass along all of our best wishes.

SPOHN · 10-03-2013, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Wow. That's pretty damn scary. Glad he pulled through. That's something that can end you in a hurry. Pass along all of our best wishes.

It's crazy wild for sure. After talking to Sam a few days ago you can tell in his voice it's a life changing experience. Sam is a great guy and is very passionate about what he does. He will talk cars all day if not to busy. Sam and GTM as a hole are some true innovators for our cars. Not to mention Sam couldn't do it without is team.

So tower74 what's the here say on the Garrett turbo being ''used" or ''used on another subbie"?

Infidel · 10-03-2013, 09:44 PM

Being the turbo-tard that I am

....I will apologize in advance of this question.

I have a plain jane stock engine with tp's and exhaust. I had on order the 18g kit, so now going with the Garrett BB turbos I should get the GT2860RS with the 0.86 A/R turbine housing ???

SPOHN · 10-03-2013, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Infidel

Being the turbo-tard that I am

....I will apologize in advance of this question.

I have a plain jane stock engine with tp's and exhaust. I had on order the 18g kit, so now going with the Garrett BB turbos I should get the GT2860RS with the 0.86 A/R turbine housing ???

yes

puckshaw · 10-04-2013, 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike@GTM

UPDATE: First off, I apologize for the delay in getting the schedule up on the boards. Sam had to have an emergency brain surgery last Thursday. As some of you know, he had broken his leg a little while back. Unfortunately, a blood clot formed in his leg and traveled up to his brain which caused some serious neurological issues. Last week, his condition worsened and he ended up having to take a ride in the ambulance to the ICU. The surgery was a success and thankfully, Sam is alive and on the road to recovery. While he is healing, he is not able to be here 24/7 like he used to, so please bear with us as Sam gets better and back up to 100%.

Now, for some good news: as a reward for bearing with us for as long as many of you have, we are offering the Garrett ball bearing turbos as a no-cost upgrade to those that want some ball bearing goodness.

Normally, this would be quite a bit more expensive, but we are offering it to those that want to take advantage of it. For comparison purposes, the 16g is comparable to the GT2860RS turbos with a 0.64 A/R turbine housing. The 18g is similar in response to the GT2860RS with the 0.86 A/R turbine housing in terms of response, but the 18g has an advantage in power. That said, the stock engine is realistically only capable of sustaining up to ~630chp for a daily driven application. So, even though the 2860RS turbos with the 0.86 A/R turbine housings are “only” capable of 700chp and the 18g turbos are capable of 800chp, it’s a moot point on a stock engine. Now, if you are going to be running a built engine and want a turbo comparable to the 18g, then Garrett’s GT2871R with the 0.64 A/R turbine housing is the answer. That said, it is a significantly more expensive turbo and we simply cannot offer it as a free upgrade at this price point, but as a $400 upgrade.

We will be posting a schedule as soon as Sam and I have an opportunity to catch up on the expected delivery times from our suppliers.

Wow, glad to hear Sam is ok. I wish him a speedy recovery.

As for the new options, should we call you to get our changes made?

Baer383 · 10-04-2013, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Baer383

Let me just say if you guys knew why you would feel like azzholes for bitchen.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike@GTM

UPDATE: First off, I apologize for the delay in getting the schedule up on the boards. Sam had to have an emergency brain surgery last Thursday. As some of you know, he had broken his leg a little while back. Unfortunately, a blood clot formed in his leg and traveled up to his brain which caused some serious neurological issues. Last week, his condition worsened and he ended up having to take a ride in the ambulance to the ICU. The surgery was a success and thankfully, Sam is alive and on the road to recovery. While he is healing, he is not able to be here 24/7 like he used to, so please bear with us as Sam gets better and back up to 100%.

Now, for some good news: as a reward for bearing with us for as long as many of you have, we are offering the Garrett ball bearing turbos as a no-cost upgrade to those that want some ball bearing goodness.

Normally, this would be quite a bit more expensive, but we are offering it to those that want to take advantage of it. For comparison purposes, the 16g is comparable to the GT2860RS turbos with a 0.64 A/R turbine housing. The 18g is similar in response to the GT2860RS with the 0.86 A/R turbine housing in terms of response, but the 18g has an advantage in power. That said, the stock engine is realistically only capable of sustaining up to ~630chp for a daily driven application. So, even though the 2860RS turbos with the 0.86 A/R turbine housings are “only” capable of 700chp and the 18g turbos are capable of 800chp, it’s a moot point on a stock engine. Now, if you are going to be running a built engine and want a turbo comparable to the 18g, then Garrett’s GT2871R with the 0.64 A/R turbine housing is the answer. That said, it is a significantly more expensive turbo and we simply cannot offer it as a free upgrade at this price point, but as a $400 upgrade.

We will be posting a schedule as soon as Sam and I have an opportunity to catch up on the expected delivery times from our suppliers.

I hope some of you guys feel like azzholes now.

Chuck33079 · 10-04-2013, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Baer383

I hope some of you guys feel like azzholes now.

I don't think that's fair. The kit's been delayed well past the original date with no real set timetable for shipping, and there's no mention of any of this until last night other than some vague "I know but I won't tell" posts.

Baer383 · 10-04-2013, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

I don't think that's fair. The kit's been delayed well past the original date with no real set timetable for shipping, and there's no mention of any of this until last night other than some vague "I know but I won't tell" posts.

It is fair,me and Chris (SPOHN),Dzel have been hinting as much as we could b/c we were told not to say anything but most people did not want to listen to 3 established members so yes it is fair!

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Mike@GTM Not an active Vendor. DO NOT BUY Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: California Posts: 391 Drives: '13 Hot Lava FR-S Rep Power: 18	UPDATE: First off, I apologize for the delay in getting the schedule up on the boards. Sam had to have an emergency brain surgery last Thursday. As some of you know, he had broken his leg a little while back. Unfortunately, a blood clot formed in his leg and traveled up to his brain which caused some serious neurological issues. Last week, his condition worsened and he ended up having to take a ride in the ambulance to the ICU. The surgery was a success and thankfully, Sam is alive and on the road to recovery. While he is healing, he is not able to be here 24/7 like he used to, so please bear with us as Sam gets better and back up to 100%. Now, for some good news: as a reward for bearing with us for as long as many of you have, we are offering the Garrett ball bearing turbos as a no-cost upgrade to those that want some ball bearing goodness. Normally, this would be quite a bit more expensive, but we are offering it to those that want to take advantage of it. For comparison purposes, the 16g is comparable to the GT2860RS turbos with a 0.64 A/R turbine housing. The 18g is similar in response to the GT2860RS with the 0.86 A/R turbine housing in terms of response, but the 18g has an advantage in power. That said, the stock engine is realistically only capable of sustaining up to ~630chp for a daily driven application. So, even though the 2860RS turbos with the 0.86 A/R turbine housings are “only” capable of 700chp and the 18g turbos are capable of 800chp, it’s a moot point on a stock engine. Now, if you are going to be running a built engine and want a turbo comparable to the 18g, then Garrett’s GT2871R with the 0.64 A/R turbine housing is the answer. That said, it is a significantly more expensive turbo and we simply cannot offer it as a free upgrade at this price point, but as a $400 upgrade. We will be posting a schedule as soon as Sam and I have an opportunity to catch up on the expected delivery times from our suppliers.

10-03-2013, 09:44 PM	#10 (permalink)
Infidel Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Central Florida Posts: 457 Drives: 2013 GM 6MT Rep Power: 16	Being the turbo-tard that I am ....I will apologize in advance of this question. I have a plain jane stock engine with tp's and exhaust. I had on order the 18g kit, so now going with the Garrett BB turbos I should get the GT2860RS with the 0.86 A/R turbine housing ???