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DEpointfive0 05-30-2013 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 2340579)
He sells them.

Lol, I know he does, but I could've sworn that e said the heat from a forced induction kit would blow them out as well (maybe I've been drinking too much today though)

Baer383 05-30-2013 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2340583)
Lol, I know he does, but I could've sworn that e said the heat from a forced induction kit would blow them out as well (maybe I've been drinking too much today though)

He did.:hello:

SPOHN 05-30-2013 08:20 PM

I feel sorry for all you guys with emissions.

Baer383 05-30-2013 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 2340607)
I feel sorry for all you guys with emissions.

Why I got plentyyyyyyyy of power.:tiphat:

theDreamer 05-31-2013 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Dzel (Post 2340559)
Really? I'm gonna have to do some research but sound like I'm going to have to remove mine. What happens when they go out or what do you look for?

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Two things will happen:
-The interior will come apart and rattle letting you know to replace it ASAP

AND
-If you do not replace it, it can clog the pipe and actually push air backwards into the block destroying your engine.

This is why you do not run HFC/RTP with boost as the heat destroys them, you open up yourself to major issues. Can you run them? Sure, they will work but be prepared for them to fail and need to replace them at some point.

khanhvu411 05-31-2013 10:35 AM

So what do you run with boost? Stock cats?

Nixlimited 05-31-2013 10:37 AM

Here's what I don't get: how is it that all of these factory turbocharged performance cars have cats that do not burn up? Is the issue that the aftermarket just does not have access to the higher quality / more resilient cats, or is it a price prohibition, or what?

theDreamer 05-31-2013 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by khanhvu411 (Post 2341413)
So what do you run with boost? Stock cats?

Stock cats, Test pipes, 3" down pipes
Basically you want straight pipes which have no material that can break off from heat or pressure. Even stock cats will get torn up, I have broken some already with mine.

Chuck33079 05-31-2013 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by khanhvu411 (Post 2341413)
So what do you run with boost? Stock cats?

Hell no. Test pipes. Stock cats would likely fry faster than aftermarket. Even if they survived, that's a ton of backpressure to introduce into a system that relies on exhaust flow.

Baer383 05-31-2013 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2341421)
Hell no. Test pipes. Stock cats would likely fry faster than aftermarket. Even if they survived, that's a ton of backpressure to introduce into a system that relies on exhaust flow.

Stock cats hold up better under boost than aftermarket cats.

Chuck33079 05-31-2013 11:04 AM

You learn something new every day. I still don't know why you would go through the effort of turboing the car and leave the stock cats unless you're in a state that requires it.

Baer383 05-31-2013 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2341490)
You learn something new every day. I still don't know why you would go through the effort of turboing the car and leave the stock cats unless you're in a state that requires it.

I have stock cats on mine but I'm SC ,and need emissions but I wouldn't put any cats on a turbo car they will get burned up faster than mine.

puckshaw 05-31-2013 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Nixlimited (Post 2341417)
Here's what I don't get: how is it that all of these factory turbocharged performance cars have cats that do not burn up? Is the issue that the aftermarket just does not have access to the higher quality / more resilient cats, or is it a price prohibition, or what?

I was curious about this too. I ran HFCs on my old STi and never heard anyone having a failure or even being concerned about it. Either way, I'm going with test pipes but I'd still like to know why it's an issue on this platform.

Chuck33079 05-31-2013 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by puckshaw (Post 2341504)
I was curious about this too. I ran HFCs on my old STi and never heard anyone having a failure or even being concerned about it. Either way, I'm going with test pipes but I'd still like to know why it's an issue on this platform.

The cats on the STI are a lot further down stream from the turbo than on the Z. Heat is the issue, and the additional distance makes a huge difference.

puckshaw 05-31-2013 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2341506)
The cats on the STI are a lot further down stream from the turbo than on the Z. Heat is the issue, and the additional distance makes a huge difference.

That was the only thing I could think of. I believe the FI 3" exhaust which is made for turbo applications even has HFCs in it but they're much farther down stream. I guess if someone is determined/required to run cats, that would be a good option. I may go that route later down the road if my inspections don't go as planned.


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