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Nixlimited 03-22-2013 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike@GTM (Post 2228034)
We'll be posting 16g Mustang dyno results once we finish up Nixlimited's car.

You guys are going to get to show off much more than just the 16gs!

Chemy 03-22-2013 04:51 PM

OK I cant take it anymore, im on the list!

Only question I have for anyone with experience, my 12" Nismo is my DD usually. Just looking for fun on the road and not really the track or drag (maybe occaisonally). I am leaning towards the 16g kit for the quick sppol times. If I do not plan to build any further, does an 18g make any sense?

What are you folks planning when/if you get this kit?

Mike@GTM 03-22-2013 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Chemy (Post 2228155)
OK I cant take it anymore, im on the list!

Only question I have for anyone with experience, my 12" Nismo is my DD usually. Just looking for fun on the road and not really the track or drag (maybe occaisonally). I am leaning towards the 16g kit for the quick sppol times. If I do not plan to build any further, does an 18g make any sense?

What are you folks planning when/if you get this kit?

If you are after quick spool, then the 16g's are the way to go. They'll make 500whp, so that is not an issue. The 18g's will have better top end with headroom to expand should you decide to build the engine later on down the road, but since you don't plan on it, the 16g's are going to be your best bet.

Nixlimited 03-22-2013 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Chemy (Post 2228155)
OK I cant take it anymore, im on the list!

Only question I have for anyone with experience, my 12" Nismo is my DD usually. Just looking for fun on the road and not really the track or drag (maybe occaisonally). I am leaning towards the 16g kit for the quick sppol times. If I do not plan to build any further, does an 18g make any sense?

What are you folks planning when/if you get this kit?

Keep in mind that their system is basically modular, so should you ever outgrow the 16gs, then you should be able to swap in some 18 or 20gs without much fuss.

SAM@GTM 03-23-2013 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk (Post 2226326)
A lot of good info in here. Are these the same intercoolers on the twin SC's as well? They look the same.

Yes they are.

Sam

SPOHN 03-23-2013 02:46 PM

I just made a money transfer for this kit to the side. I'm just going to hold out this track season while NA. Plans are to build motor possible. See what happens.

Nism0370 03-23-2013 03:01 PM

What are the road course track use implications of this kit or with any tt application.. i.e. what else must be considered with the extra heat, fuel use, etc.? I have a 25 row oil cooler and phunk's accessory 255lph walbro fuel pump. just trying to gauge total cost of parts needed.
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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 2229305)
I just made a money transfer for this kit to the side. I'm just going to hold out this track season while NA. Plans are to build motor possible. See what happens.


SS_Firehawk 03-23-2013 03:27 PM

Maybe two 25 rows and an upgraded's radiator. GTM's upgraded radiator and SPAL fan kit, though expensive is the best I've seen for the platform. I would look at something like that

SPOHN 03-23-2013 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Nism0370 (Post 2229321)
What are the road course track use implications of this kit or with any tt application.. i.e. what else must be considered with the extra heat, fuel use, etc.? I have a 25 row oil cooler and phunk's accessory 255lph walbro fuel pump. just trying to gauge total cost of parts needed.

I plan to run the 16G with only about 425whp. Just to get that edge. I have a 34R cooler. I'll add another on top of the GTM high capacity oil pan. Bigger radiator/ fans. Turbo blankets. Maybe some more ducting. I've been talking to two guys that are not on this forum who have been tracking with the Greddy 20G kit well over 500whp. So they informed me of how it's very possible to keep temps down on smaller kits.

BlkNismo 03-23-2013 09:45 PM

I may have overlooked, will stealth black be standard or optional?

Is it possible to have hks ssqv bov opposed to tial or turbosmart?

future370zzz 03-24-2013 11:44 AM

^it is an option and cost about $500 if you wanna do everything, ic thermal coat and piping powder coated

mikey1600 03-25-2013 08:33 PM

so fkn excited about this! haha

LukasC 03-26-2013 01:41 AM

This is an awesome price! I have the money available to buy this if the group buy goes down and definitely could finance it! One concern though is if these turbos will need to be changed later if i want to make over 550whp? Also that 11psi at just under 500whp on the mustang dyno is that on a stock block? Pm im very interested

edub370 03-26-2013 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by LukasC (Post 2233493)
This is an awesome price! I have the money available to buy this if the group buy goes down and definitely could finance it! One concern though is if these turbos will need to be changed later if i want to make over 550whp? Also that 11psi at just under 500whp on the mustang dyno is that on a stock block? Pm im very interested

I garuntee those 20g's will make well over 600whp. stock engine car IIRC. if u are looking for a crazy build down the road, then the garret based gtm kit may be a better starting point for you. but IMO, this kit will be the best kit u can buy for a stock block car. quicker spool, and turbos that have proven themselves reliable for over a decade.

indyn 03-26-2013 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike@GTM (Post 2227937)
We've had a few PM's regarding getting a credit for already having an Uprev cable and license while purchasing our Turn-Key kit. We are offering a $200 credit on the Turn-Key kit if you already have a license and cable but still want a tune from us as well as the associated support.

base map (not cable and license) available for tuner kits?

when will the production start?

Mike@GTM 03-26-2013 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Nism0370 (Post 2229321)
What are the road course track use implications of this kit or with any tt application.. i.e. what else must be considered with the extra heat, fuel use, etc.? I have a 25 row oil cooler and phunk's accessory 255lph walbro fuel pump. just trying to gauge total cost of parts needed.

For a track car, heat is the biggest concern. There are a number of ways you can attack the problem. Things like a vented hood, upgraded fans, using Uprev to lower the temperature the fans come on at, upgraded radiator. Those are the "off the shelf" options. Of course, there are a variety of other things you can do depending on how creative or resourceful you are.

Before you start getting crazy with the cooling mods though, it would be a good idea to get a firm grip on where you are now with your coolant and oil temps. While gauges can go a long way to helping you determine that, you want to be focused on your driving as opposed to your gauges. Therefore, it would be ideal to have data logging capability so you can go over the logs while you're in the paddock after your session to see your peak temps.

Just remember that different tracks will have different demands on the car and the driver. Some tracks are going to push your cooling system hard while others are going to shred your tires instead. You need to setup your car for what you are trying to do, the track you are driving on and the conditions you are driving in.

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Originally Posted by BlkNismo (Post 2229826)
I may have overlooked, will stealth black be standard or optional?

Is it possible to have hks ssqv bov opposed to tial or turbosmart?

As always, powder coated intercooler pipes and thermal dispersant coating on the intercooler are optional.

As for specifying different blow off valves or other components, keep in mind that the intent of this kit is to have it on the shelf and ready to ship. While we can certainly accommodate custom orders, it will add to the lead time.

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Originally Posted by LukasC (Post 2233493)
This is an awesome price! I have the money available to buy this if the group buy goes down and definitely could finance it! One concern though is if these turbos will need to be changed later if i want to make over 550whp? Also that 11psi at just under 500whp on the mustang dyno is that on a stock block? Pm im very interested

Thank you.

The need to change turbos depends on which setup you start out with. If you go with the 18g's, you won't need to change turbos for more power. The dyno graph on the Mustang dyno was with the 18g's on the stock engine and 91 octane gas.

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Originally Posted by indyn (Post 2234091)
base map (not cable and license) available for tuner kits?

when will the production start?

Yes, we can send you a base map to get you going if you get the tuner kit.

As for production, we are still ironing out some details on production time. Once we have the information on when these kits will be available, we will announce it.

ATL_Red_G35 03-26-2013 04:37 PM

Mike, will the kit work with a 2011 FX35 RWD?

SPOHN 03-26-2013 06:43 PM

^ oh my lord look who it is.

LukasC 03-27-2013 12:42 AM

Ok thats good to know! I am highly interested in this! Im pretty sure i want to be put on the list i can finance the kit and put most the cash down. Just wondering will you be posting some videos of this kit so we can see the quality?
From what i have researched about kits in general is their is three things to look for
How fast, reliable, and cheap it is. You can only pick two and sacrifice the third. So this kit is cheaper than most and fast not the fastest but still fast so is the parts reliable? Any warranty with the parts? Obviously if you dont install it you cant warranty the install but i plan on keeping this car for 30 years. So i want something that is reliable. Thats my concern. Other than that id buy it in a heart beat!

Another question can the test car be put on a dynojet too?

With that in mind if i go on the list id want the 18's with black powdercoated pipes and i already have uprev so no need for that. And it would be shipped to 78249.

Thanks again!

Oh and i plan on buying the GTM 3" quad exhaust down the line too any chance of saving money and throwing that in too? If not its ok im in no rush for the 3" yet.

edub370 03-27-2013 08:14 AM

GTM, what are your thoughts on someone attempting a tt install without a lift? i know it CAN be done in theory, but in practice, is this something i would even wanna look in to

diddy535 03-27-2013 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by edub370 (Post 2235766)
GTM, what are your thoughts on someone attempting a tt install without a lift? i know it CAN be done in theory, but in practice, is this something i would even wanna look in to

That'd be tough to do the exhaust manifold but I've seen people install that at home before.

indyn 03-27-2013 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike@GTM (Post 2234248)
Yes, we can send you a base map to get you going if you get the tuner kit.

As for production, we are still ironing out some details on production time. Once we have the information on when these kits will be available, we will announce it.

thanks Mike. Can we expect an April production start date? and a noob question, what is the power difference between external and internal wastegate kits? which one is good for emissions levels similar to factory?

SAM@GTM 03-27-2013 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by edub370 (Post 2235766)
GTM, what are your thoughts on someone attempting a tt install without a lift? i know it CAN be done in theory, but in practice, is this something i would even wanna look in to

It has been done many times even with our Garret baced kit. The MHI kit is even easier to install.

Sam

KaienZ34 03-27-2013 10:07 AM

:excited:

blackonorange 03-27-2013 11:10 AM

Lol is there a a way I can put a rush on this ?!?!?

esfourteen 03-27-2013 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by edub370 (Post 2235766)
GTM, what are your thoughts on someone attempting a tt install without a lift? i know it CAN be done in theory, but in practice, is this something i would even wanna look in to

you can do it in jack stands, a few of us have done the garret kit. this doesn't even need the head drilled/tapped so its easier to install now.

ATL_Red_G35 03-27-2013 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 2234983)
^ oh my lord look who it is.

lol Chris, what's that suppose to mean?

Mike@GTM - Will this kit work with a 2011 FX35 RWD?

Thanks,
Kev

Alstann 03-27-2013 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by esfourteen (Post 2236316)
you can do it in jack stands, a few of us have done the garret kit. this doesn't even need the head drilled/tapped so its easier to install now.

This is great news - that was one of my worries with the Garrett kit, even though a template was included.

edub370 03-27-2013 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by esfourteen (Post 2236316)
you can do it in jack stands, a few of us have done the garret kit. this doesn't even need the head drilled/tapped so its easier to install now.

how long did the install take?

BlkNismo 03-27-2013 05:13 PM

Does this kit require relocation of the washer reservoir?

Nixlimited 03-27-2013 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BlkNismo (Post 2236812)
Does this kit require relocation of the washer reservoir?

Based on the pictures, it must. The intakes are in a similar position as in the Garrett kits.

rhd 03-27-2013 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by edub370 (Post 2235766)
GTM, what are your thoughts on someone attempting a tt install without a lift? i know it CAN be done in theory, but in practice, is this something i would even wanna look in to

Get some 6000lb. jack stands, they lift the car twice as high as the small ones, makes it 10 times easier to work on. I pulled my tranny, installed a stage 3 southbend clutch and reinstalled the tranny by myself without any problems what so ever. Also did a Quaife diff on the rear end before that.

My car is up on jacks again getting ready to install a turbo, the tall jacks make all the difference in the world.

http://i393.photobucket.com/albums/p...psb8d1112c.jpg

http://i393.photobucket.com/albums/p...ps9a7ef536.jpg

Nixlimited 03-28-2013 09:45 AM

Dang! How did you lower the tranny by yourself? Impressive anyway!

DEpointfive0 03-28-2013 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Nixlimited (Post 2237844)
Dang! How did you lower the tranny by yourself? Impressive anyway!

I assume with a jack, lol

Sh0velMan 03-28-2013 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by rhd (Post 2237439)
Get some 6000lb. jack stands, they lift the car twice as high as the small ones, makes it 10 times easier to work on. I pulled my tranny, installed a stage 3 southbend clutch and reinstalled the tranny by myself without any problems what so ever. Also did a Quaife diff on the rear end before that.

My car is up on jacks again getting ready to install a turbo, the tall jacks make all the difference in the world.

So was there any technique to actually lifting the car that high on a jack safely?

What's the specs on your jack?

Nixlimited 03-28-2013 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2237858)
I assume with a jack, lol

Yep, but had to get it on the floor and off the jack somehow...

Sh0velMan 03-28-2013 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Nixlimited (Post 2238026)
Yep, but had to get it on the floor and off the jack somehow...

With your hands?

It weighs less than 200lbs, any adult male should be able to move it 6 inches off of the jack. Just saying.

Nixlimited 03-28-2013 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan (Post 2238035)
With your hands?

It weighs less than 200lbs, any adult male should be able to move it 6 inches off of the jack. Just saying.

Honestly, I have no idea what a transmission weighs. I just assumed it was hundreds of pounds. Anyway, getting way off topic.

BACK TO TURBO TALK!

Cvzg77r 03-28-2013 11:34 AM

question if one day, one wanted to upgrade the mitsubishi turbos to the garrett turbos (for the ball bearings n such) would it be possible with this kit? or should i just save up longer for the garrett kit? lol

Dzel 03-28-2013 12:39 PM

^Good question


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