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O&G 04-15-2014 09:00 PM

built motor will love the single setup and the peak boost compared w/ a twin setup will be minimal!

Rid3_FaM0uS 04-15-2014 09:08 PM

I have definitely considered this same idea for the very same reasons squeeze.^ I have yet to release anything to the community on my recent happenings but needless to say ill be looking for more power and I too find that most of my enjoyment in the car is highway pulls or straight line enjoyment toying with my brothers mkIV etc. I originally got this stage 2 kit with the intentions of autoX and track only to find out there's really not much here in Ohio for anything of the sort; watching your journal closely I think I may decide to sell mine in the near future as well and speak with Sasha about something along the lines of a big single with that HTA wheel and alpha housing much like F.I. Is offering for their kit except one big single rather. I dunno. Ill keep following your journal and see how it pans out but i too am just ready to find out what kind of straight line power this VHR can bring to the table and no one has really done anything impressive this route to speak of.

jwick 04-15-2014 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by NeoNz (Post 2782739)
of course, always worry about compressor efficency ranges, but if you overlay his dyno to some of the single builds out there, no comparison <4000 rpm. I'm looking at boost levels below 20 psi, which isn't exactly pushing the limits for some of these turbos, i could see in the 20+ psi range you would want to go single, but he has far more torque at the same boost level. with c16 there is no reason bigger turbos can't run >700rwhp, nobody here has dynoed with real race fuel to this point.

Just watch O&Gs build and see what a single can do. A single is always going to make more tq than twins. You moght give up early spool, and its just a few hundred rpms, but that's about it.

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O&G 04-15-2014 09:37 PM

I'll have fresh numbers next week Wednesday on pump gas near 18+ psi w/ timing and vvel tuning before we go E85. Back to Mr. squeezes badass build & thread! WTQ>WHP. After all he was one of the first w/ a built motor pushing the limits!

elperuano 04-15-2014 09:56 PM

I'm right behind ya Squeeze.
I'm all roll racing and highway runs. Just not enough traction for digs. Peak performance is much better for me as well. Can't wait to see what kinda numbers you put down. With the new revised version and built block, the bar will be raised yet again.

RoyaltyB 04-15-2014 10:15 PM

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NeoNxz 04-15-2014 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Squeeze (Post 2782948)
The reason I am switching is for peak performance I want more power.The GTM kit with log style manifold .64 A/R housing was just not cutting it anymore. I am not concerned with slower spool with the twin scroll 6766 setup. I waited a year for GTM V2 manifold's and was going to switch to GTX3076r turbo's with it just got tired of waiting. There is not a single 370z with that setup yet.

To sum it all up I am willing to give up some low in spool for top end power. I use the car for highway pulls and roll racing. Also daily driveability was not a problem with my old setup.

Nice! If that's the case I should sell you my supra ;) haha jk. Good luck with your new setup! the 6766 should be just fine, if i'm not mistaken minimally 700rwhp at 18-19 psi. what size hot side?

jwick 04-15-2014 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by O&G (Post 2783048)
I'll have fresh numbers next week Wednesday on pump gas near 18+ psi w/ timing and vvel tuning before we go E85. Back to Mr. squeezes badass build & thread! WTQ>WHP. After all he was one of the first w/ a built motor pushing the limits!

You still owe me that ride homie

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Mr.Squeeze 04-15-2014 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by NeoNxz (Post 2783097)
Nice! If that's the case I should sell you my supra ;) haha jk. Good luck with your new setup! the 6766 should be just fine, if i'm not mistaken minimally 700rwhp at 18-19 psi. what size hot side?


I am going with 1.32 A/R you are correct with 700whp the goal is to make that on pump gas 93 and go up from there.

NeoNz 04-17-2014 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Squeeze (Post 2783162)
I am going with 1.32 A/R you are correct with 700whp the goal is to make that on pump gas 93 and go up from there.

Sweet! Do you attend meets around the tri state area? Would love to pick your brain one day. Did you consider a sleeved block? Run E85 or c16 often?

O&G 04-17-2014 09:19 PM

Cooling a sleeved block can be a challenge on these motors...especially since they run hot already. Depending on what your going to use the car for depends on sleeving or not. E85 is a winner on these motors with FI.

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Plasmite 04-17-2014 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by O&G (Post 2785237)
Cooling a sleeved block can be a challenge on these motors...especially since they run hot already. Depending on what your going to use the car for depends on sleeving or not. E85 is a winner on these motors with FI.

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I am having difficulties understanding the pros/cons of E85 and regular gasoline.

Does E85 cause less cavitation?

elperuano 04-17-2014 09:59 PM

E85 more stable fuel and allows for more aggressive tuning. It's like magic. Plus it's way cheap compared to regular pump gas.

Cons are its not easily available as pump gas. Only certain stations carry them and it depends where you live. Need biiiiiiggeerrr injectors and bigger fuel pump. Also it eats up gas suuuper fast. But I think it's worth it. Just wish I had it more readily available.

tturbo370z 04-17-2014 10:29 PM

I Agree with El and everything he said above. Another bonus and part of the magic is that it burns 200 degrees colder than 91 or "regular" pump gas.

I had to subscribe to your thread bro to keep an eye on your new build, so I too can want more power :rofl2:

Mr.Squeeze 04-17-2014 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by NeoNz (Post 2785210)
Sweet! Do you attend meets around the tri state area? Would love to pick your brain one day. Did you consider a sleeved block? Run E85 or c16 often?


Yes I do attend meets and wouldn't mind meeting up. When I build my motor I did not consider a sleeved block for my goals at the time. I have never ran E85 in my car and dont run C16 .I have however ran 100 octane pump gas on occasion this is local to me.


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