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Mr.Squeeze 09-07-2012 06:00 PM

Real Auto Dynamics built and R/T tuned built motor TT
 
My Twin Turbo built motor car has been through a long process getting everything together. I received my GTM stage 3 GT3071R turbo kit on May 22 and started to install it my self. Because of time and some issue's I could not complete the install my self. So I called up my friends over at Real Auto Dynamic's in Long Island N.Y to finish the install for me.

Car has the following parts.
Wiseco 10:1 custom pistons
Eagle Rods
ARP L19 Head Studs
New Stock Head gasket
Deatschwerks 850cc Injectors
CJM Motorsports Twin fuel pump
CJM fuel Return system
GTM fuel Rails
R/T Tuning fuel feed lines
HKS EVC S boost controller
Two AEM Wideband Gauges in the Cuby
DEfi Racer Series gauges Boost, Oil Temp, Oil pressure in Stock location for a OEM look
South Bend TZR Stage two clutch Rated @ 650 TQ


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After a excellent install was done by the guys at Real Auto and break in miles were done on the engine. I headed down to R/T Tuning in Lansdale Pa for a tune. My single pump was running out of fuel at a little over 500whp So I left the car @ R/T tuning to have the fuel upgrades installed.

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Mr.Squeeze 09-07-2012 06:01 PM

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14 PSI
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17 PSI
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19 PSI this boost setting is for 93+ 100 octane
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I will be going back later in the year for 700+whp

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I would like to thank the guys @ Real Auto Dynamics Alex Rodney Dan Kevin without you guys I would not be on the road right now. I also would like to thank Vince @ R/T Tuning and the rest of the guys over there as well and last Sam @ GTM he has been so helpful anytime I call him.

Boost_lee 09-07-2012 06:04 PM

Twin 30R's :D I like

elperuano 09-07-2012 06:26 PM

Awesome build! Stage 3 built motor, I can't wait to see the end result!

Mr.Squeeze 09-07-2012 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elperuano (Post 1906784)
Awesome build! Stage 3 built motor, I can't wait to see the end result!


In a few minutes you shall have them.

GaleForce 09-07-2012 06:46 PM

Holy poop! Awesome!

blackonorange 09-07-2012 06:51 PM

Hmm very cool but why doesn't the trq carry all the way to the end ? Not bashing just wondering.

Mike@GTM 09-07-2012 07:10 PM

Looking great man! Nice numbers!

I'm looking forward to seeing the results with a 3" cat-back. That should carry the torque all the way to redline.

Mr.Squeeze 09-07-2012 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by blackonorange (Post 1906828)
Hmm very cool but why doesn't the trq carry all the way to the end ? Not bashing just wondering.

The bottleneck of the Greddy TIC exhaust it has a 2.4 O.D that is made to connect to the stock exhaust then the rest is 2.74. This is the reason why i didnt get a big increase from 14 psi to 19psi. I am riding around on the 14 psi not even using the higher boost setting.. Once I get the 3 inch exhaust the curve should loook a lot better for both WHP and TQ not sure how flat it will look but for sure it will get better.

Osiris 09-07-2012 07:18 PM

sigh, if only i could win the lottery!

Mr.Squeeze 09-07-2012 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike@GTM (Post 1906854)
Looking great man! Nice numbers!

I'm looking forward to seeing the results with a 3" cat-back. That should carry the torque all the way to redline.

Thanks Mike I also expect to see the hp go way up between the two boost setting's. I do kind of wish I went with the .86 A/R instead of the .64 A/R that I have now.

Mike@GTM 09-07-2012 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Squeeze (Post 1906875)
Thanks Mike I also expect to see the hp go way up between the two boost setting's. I do kind of wish I went with the .86 A/R instead of the .64 A/R that I have now.

Looking at the graph, I'm not terribly shocked by the difference in torque/power vs. boost. Generally, for a given turbo setup every psi will give you anther 10hp or so (all things being equal). Since you didn't quite hit that, it is apparent that the exhaust is holding you back. The torque and power curves really show that.

As far as .86 vs. .64, I'd wait until you've done the 3" cat-back. Once you've opened up that exhaust, you will see a huge difference. Seriously.

red6spd 09-07-2012 07:38 PM

700+Wheel SWEET JESUS!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thats going to be crazy... Not as nuts as a Turbo FR-S LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!

ZKraken22 09-07-2012 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by red6spd (Post 1906898)
700+Wheel SWEET JESUS!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thats going to be crazy... Not as nuts as a Turbo FR-S LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!

Now this should run 10's and this should beat that turbo FR-S... Should:confused:

Mr.Squeeze 09-07-2012 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike@GTM (Post 1906889)
Looking at the graph, I'm not terribly shocked by the difference in torque/power vs. boost. Generally, for a given turbo setup every psi will give you anther 10hp or so (all things being equal). Since you didn't quite hit that, it is apparent that the exhaust is holding you back. The torque and power curves really show that.

As far as .86 vs. .64, I'd wait until you've done the 3" cat-back. Once you've opened up that exhaust, you will see a huge difference. Seriously.


I am not changing the housing's not worth the hassle i just dont have faith in the .64 to make 700whp without me pushing them. I only have 12 psi wastegate springs.

show2nite 09-07-2012 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Squeeze (Post 1906791)
In a few minutes you shall have them.


That is awesome Homie, those number are not playing you would certainly put a whooping on my beloved GT-R now!

Bk Finest:ughdance:

daisuke149 09-08-2012 12:13 AM

damn if you were in lansdale during the week should let me know. I work there.

Boosted Performance 09-08-2012 12:25 AM

Nice results, and good to see the torque go way up compared to a stock block.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Squeeze (Post 1906875)
Thanks Mike I also expect to see the hp go way up between the two boost setting's. I do kind of wish I went with the .86 A/R instead of the .64 A/R that I have now.

It will be interesting to see what the larger exhaust does, but I think you nailed it with the post above. The .86 a/r housing would have been the way to go, considering these are small T25 housings.

Looking at the twin scroll dyno, the T4 1.0 a/r housing may be limited to about 550whp, and the 1.15 would be a good way to go for anything above 550whp. These engines seem to flow very well, and much better than the VQ35DE's. Not to mention the extra 200cc of displacement.

Just my experience I guess....congrats on the results, that is a lot of power for the street, and it must be a blast to drive.

Mr.Squeeze 09-08-2012 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boosted Performance (Post 1907245)
Nice results, and good to see the torque go way up compared to a stock block.




It will be interesting to see what the larger exhaust does, but I think you nailed it with the post above. The .86 a/r housing would have been the way to go, considering these are small T25 housings.

Looking at the twin scroll dyno, the T4 1.0 a/r housing may be limited to about 550whp, and the 1.15 would be a good way to go for anything above 550whp. These engines seem to flow very well, and much better than the VQ35DE's. Not to mention the extra 200cc of displacement.

Just my experience I guess....congrats on the results, that is a lot of power for the street, and it must be a blast to drive.


The car is a blast to drive right now I am only driving around on 14 psi right now.The thing that sucks about this twin turbo kit is if I want to change the housings its a pain in the butt. But I did learn the hard way go big or go home.

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Originally Posted by show2nite (Post 1907178)
That is awesome Homie, those number are not playing you would certainly put a whooping on my beloved GT-R now!

Bk Finest:ughdance:

I can only take stock GTR's or bolt on one's some of the higher HP ones I don't have a shot at all.

Nissan370 09-08-2012 08:05 AM

Holy chubaca.!!!! Solded I am kicking the stillen kit to the curb this is what I wanted to see
Great numbers man. Gtm here I come

For the fuel upgrade did you goto gtm for that also thxs

Mr.Squeeze 09-08-2012 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Nissan370 (Post 1907379)
Holy chubaca.!!!! Solded I am kicking the stillen kit to the curb this is what I wanted to see
Great numbers man. Gtm here I come

For the fuel upgrade did you goto gtm for that also thxs


I didn't get all my fuel mods from GTM , however I suggest getting it from them just give Sam a call.

Good choice on kicking the Stillen kit to the curb I made the same decision with my built motor. I just couldn't allow my self to put it back on and have to keep modding it. I love these turbo's still have a few kinks to work out but I am more than satisfied with the kit.

Nixlimited 09-08-2012 09:55 AM

Nice build and great results!

superchargedg 09-08-2012 09:56 AM

Very nice

SharpByCoop 09-08-2012 12:14 PM

Really impressive. I'm pulling up my chair as my own components are close.

Fuel for these numbers?

Thanks!

Jim

Mr.Squeeze 09-08-2012 01:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SharpByCoop (Post 1907570)
Really impressive. I'm pulling up my chair as my own components are close.

Fuel for these numbers?

Thanks!

Jim

93 octane for 14 psi 580whp and C16 for 19 psi . Once I get the bigger exhaust I don't see a problem hitting 600whp on pump then run 19 plus psi on race gas to get to my goal of 700 whp.

SharpByCoop 09-08-2012 01:43 PM

Good info. I appreciate it. We're still waiting for a cooler day to continue my tune. It's been 85°+ up here for the past two weeks.

Your ride's gotta be a hoot!

Coop

SS_Firehawk 09-08-2012 02:33 PM

So I'm debating on getting a FI'd setup. You guys think my exhaust would bottleneck it? I don't intend to push nearly the boost Squeeze is, something closer to 10-12 psi tops. It's a Motordyne Y pipe with HFC and Tanabe exhaust. Merge point is 3", rest is 2.5". I believe the resonators on the exhaust are 18" as well.

I can't see your dyno charts here in Afghanistan because the F'n internet is filtering everything that's considered media, video, porn, skype, google chat, everything. But the numbers your quoting are awesome. Should go find you a new 13 GT500 to dust off.

fuct 09-08-2012 03:31 PM

damn, congrats squeeze. sick set up.

swiss370Z 09-09-2012 04:14 AM

Wowwww!

Very, very impressive:tup:
Well done!

Greetings
Ivo

Mr&Mrs 09-09-2012 07:57 AM

Awesome!!!

ANMVQ 09-09-2012 08:09 AM

Awsome MR.Squezze, Great write up.
Glad you final got her back , Numbers are GREAT, Nice choice, Sounds good to. Waiting for that 3 inch :)

Dre370z 09-09-2012 06:03 PM

[QUOTE=Mr.Squeeze;1906768]My Twin Turbo built motor car has been through a long proccess getting everything together. I received my GTM stage 3 GT3071R turbo kit on May 22 and started to install it my self. Because of time and some issue's I could not complete the install my self. So I called up my friends over at Real Auto Dynamic's in Long Island N.Y to finish the install for me.

Car has the following parts.
Wiseco 10:1 custom pistons
Eagle Rods
ARP L19 Head Studs
New Stock Head gasket
Deatschwerks 850cc Injectors
CJM Motorsports Twin fuel pump
CJM fuel Return system
GTM fuel Rails
R/T Tuning fuel feed lines
HKS EVC S boost controller
Two AEM Widebadn Gauges in the Cuby
DEfi Boost Oil Temp Oil pressure in Stock location for a OEM look
South Bend TZR Stage two clutch Rated @ 700 RWTQ


are these parts just added on for the stock block or was a new engine installed.

Mr.Squeeze 09-10-2012 06:08 AM

[QUOTE=Dre370z;1908916]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Squeeze (Post 1906768)
My Twin Turbo built motor car has been through a long proccess getting everything together. I received my GTM stage 3 GT3071R turbo kit on May 22 and started to install it my self. Because of time and some issue's I could not complete the install my self. So I called up my friends over at Real Auto Dynamic's in Long Island N.Y to finish the install for me.

Car has the following parts.
Wiseco 10:1 custom pistons
Eagle Rods
ARP L19 Head Studs
New Stock Head gasket
Deatschwerks 850cc Injectors
CJM Motorsports Twin fuel pump
CJM fuel Return system
GTM fuel Rails
R/T Tuning fuel feed lines
HKS EVC S boost controller
Two AEM Widebadn Gauges in the Cuby
DEfi Boost Oil Temp Oil pressure in Stock location for a OEM look
South Bend TZR Stage two clutch Rated @ 700 RWTQ


are these parts just added on for the stock block or was a new engine installed.

Stock motor was taken out the car and built with the parts in the list.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk (Post 1907746)
So I'm debating on getting a FI'd setup. You guys think my exhaust would bottleneck it? I don't intend to push nearly the boost Squeeze is, something closer to 10-12 psi tops. It's a Motordyne Y pipe with HFC and Tanabe exhaust. Merge point is 3", rest is 2.5". I believe the resonators on the exhaust are 18" as well.

I can't see your dyno charts here in Afghanistan because the F'n internet is filtering everything that's considered media, video, porn, skype, google chat, everything. But the numbers your quoting are awesome. Should go find you a new 13 GT500 to dust off.

Most car's on Stock blocks with smaller turbo's dont seem to have a problem at all you should be fine.

weiboy718 09-10-2012 07:53 AM

Congrats again brother!

SAM@GTM 09-10-2012 06:05 PM

Cliff,

Congratulations on getting the car up and running. Looking at your dyno graph, it does look like a classic exhaust restriction, especially when you get to the high rpm and instead of the power continuing to climb, it gets wavy and starts to fall off. The .64 A/R housing you have are capable of 700+whp easily and I'm being conservative. We have done more.

I'm posting a couple dyno graphs for comparison. Both these cars have built engines. One of them is a VHR with our Stage 2 (GT 2860RS with .86 A/R). As you can see, we're accomplishing 608whp at 15psi of boost on 9:1 compression. If you are at 19psi with GT30's with 10:1 compression and only at 613whp, either you have a major exhaust restriction or something is not right. It is not a turbo sizing issue. Also, another way to look at it is that if the dyno graph did not fall off at high rpm, then I would expect you to be at 700whp at the same boost level.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Boosted Performance (Post 1907245)
It will be interesting to see what the larger exhaust does, but I think you nailed it with the post above. The .86 a/r housing would have been the way to go, considering these are small T25 housings.

As for T25 housings being small, remember that this is a twin turbo setup, not a single turbo. ;) You can't look at these dyno graphs and still say that the T25 housing is too small.

Sam

Mr.Squeeze 09-10-2012 06:43 PM

Nice seeing those graph's Sam that 14 psi Stage 3 is really what I would like my car to make at that boost level.

Good motivation right there.

Vince@R/T 09-10-2012 07:27 PM

Hey cliff....thanks for the good words. Look forward to getting this where it should be once we get that exhaust on there!!!!



Hey Sam, the second graph you posted with the GT30's....are they with.64 or .86 housings?

w0rM 09-10-2012 07:27 PM

Looking good man! Amazing numbers!

P.S. Your old exhaust is enjoying it's new home :D

Mr.Squeeze 09-10-2012 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vince@R/T (Post 1910531)
Hey cliff....thanks for the good words. Look forward to getting this where it should be once we get that exhaust on there!!!!



Hey Sam, the second graph you posted with the GT30's....are they with.64 or .86 housings?

I cant wait to get the car back down to once I get the exhaust.


The thing I love about the car the most is the way it drives the car run's great love the tune.

SAM@GTM 09-10-2012 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vince@R/T (Post 1910531)
Hey cliff....thanks for the good words. Look forward to getting this where it should be once we get that exhaust on there!!!!



Hey Sam, the second graph you posted with the GT30's....are they with.64 or .86 housings?

GTM Stage 3 tuner turbo kit (Garret GT3071.64AR)

http://my350z.com/forum/shop-builds/...cams-vpro.html


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