Recommended supercharger setup?

speedfreek · 09-09-2012, 12:06 AM

It's comical how certain ones are saying anyone who doesnt have first hand experience with either product is saying to STFU it's only for the OP to decide the facts. This is an open forum if you dont like it being debated then kindly

. Anyone who is considering this route has interest in this information. So before you start saying this has blown and that has blown if it is heresay it is best not to bring it in to pass it as fact as it will quickly be called out. How do I know if he doesn't have a friend or friends that have a certiain SC setup that have blown them. Easy question to answer and dumb question to ask. Anyone that has said product and blown their engine has either A) notified the seller of said product about their problem and laying blame on the kit or B) owned up that they are a dumbazz and should not be allowed around said parts or anything mechanical for that matter.

NitrousZ34 · 09-09-2012, 03:12 AM

Everyone gets quoted but me?? lol

In all seriousness, I am a big fan of GTM and their products, always have been. I have first hand experienced Stillen's Customer service, and their kit on my friends HR 350z. He has not had any problems with the kit, so far, but when we took a trip down to Stillen's facility to pick up the CARB sticker they would not give it to him because he was suppose to get his car tuned with the stock cats to be able to get the sticker. They never informed him of this and i now that for a fact because i was there before he got the install, after he picked the car up from the install, and the third time we were there to pick up the sticker. The only reason why he went with Stillen is because he lives in Los Angeles and cops crack down on street cars hard and he just didn't want to be hassled without a carb sticker at least. I know a sticker won't help all the time, but hey who knows. The other reason was because the kit is warrentied. I don't even know if they will honor that now because of the whole exhaust issue. I am not bashing Stillen, there are a bunch of good guys over there that have done alot of R&D work for our cars, which i am thankful for. So basically what im trying to say goes along with what others have said. The stillen kit is a quality system out the box, but if you plan on really pushing it, you could come across some problems and the customer service isn't the greatest. In my opinion i would go with GTM, as what i will be doing in the future. Not their supercharger kit, but their twin turbo kit. I have respect for both companies but I would go with GTM. Hope this helps OP

swiss370Z · 09-09-2012, 03:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luigi90210

I want to go with the gtm kit but because of carb laws, I would prefer it if I didnt have to pay extra for a smog check(if you know what i mean). The only thing I dont like about the stillen kit is that it makes the engine bay look flashy, I like the clean look of the engine bay as is but I can live with it because I dont look at my engine bay to often.

I try my best in English!

Hey Guys

Be nice to each other again......

The question of what SC- Kit you should take, everyone should decide for themselves.
I find it very sad that the same war breaks out again and again, when someone asks, what SC- Kit do you recommend?

If both correctly installed, the software optimizes and the car is well maintained
and no long high speed runs are completed (can also be a normal engine explode), is the pure joy of such a SC- Kit nothing in the way.

I drive for 1 1/2 years and 22'000 Km (13'700 miles) one of these kits (STILLEN) so far without problems.
(except catalyst problems...... Which HFC for a TT or SC Build)
Since the software is properly configured.

I am convinced, both companies and could recommend both.

@ Luigi
If you are with a distinctive engine bay (I read you like understatment) and go with carb legal like, then choose STILLEN.

If you want a little more power and unobtrusively go, then choose GTM

My personal tip:
Decide first for the tuner you can install the kit (or let it install directly from the manufacturer) and then make your decision on which kit you want.
Unfortunately I can not give any suggestion where you can go for installation?
I'm too far away (Switzerland)

Just be aware that such an intervention can go on an engine always breaking something as performance will be greatly increased.
I change the engine oil every 3'000 miles (high quality) and regularly check all of the components (air filters, belts, bearings ....).
The maintenance is for a SC- Kit of course higher than normal.

I hope I have helped you a little?

Greetings from Switzerland
Ivo

ANMVQ · 09-09-2012, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike@GTM

OK. First of all, it is impossible to prove the nonexistence of something that does not exist. It is not up to us to prove that it does not exist, it is up to you to prove that it does. Therefore, your argument is invalid.

Second of all, when AMNVQ stated that there exists a handful of blown engines (which btw, implies more than one) and there is only one that we know of, we asked for him to back up his claim that there exists more than one. He did not/could not.

If you can't back up your claim that something exists with proof, then your claim is false. Here's an example. I claim that unicorns exist. Unless I can furnish proof that unicorns exist, the statement is false. While I could argue that it may be possible that there exists a unicorn on some far away planet in another galaxy, I cannot substantiate my claim and therefore my statement that unicorns exist is not true because I do not know that it is true nor can I prove it.

Furthermore, we pointed out that his statement of "I made 412whp out of the box" was false due to his previous statement of "I only made 352whp and the Stillen tune sucks". That does not mean that we unequivocally implied that everything he said is a lie. We only said that that particular statement is a lie and we have given proof to that effect.

Now, while it is true that his credibility is damaged as a result of his lie, that does not necessarily mean that everything he says is a lie. Only that everything he says should be examined more closely and the question of whether or not he is telling the truth has been raised.

As someone in this thread pointed out earlier, anyone reading any of this should most definitely determine whether what they read is true or not. However, had we not stepped in to correct a false assertion, the casual reader would assume that everything written is true and the falsehood would continue to be disseminated.

You know something you are so FULL of SHAT, I'm really getting sick and tired of your crap, REALLY I said on the Stillen tune I made 412WHP??( Really read my SIG?) I did sa- out of the box , Meaning there stock pulleys and SC ( The question was about the Stillen parts not the tune) Give me a Fn break man really find something else to do with your life.. An BTW if I had hours to search the internet I could fine 3 Blown motors on you kits, But that would be also if you hadnt had them closed or removed from the forums. I have been on here and myg37+350z for a long time and have read at least 3, Why else would I say so??? Do I hate you guys over there. Didnt but( DO NOW) Do I work for Stillen ?? NOPE?? Dont even really like them that much.. IS their kit the "BEST thing since sliced bread"? NOPE thats why I'm making changes.. I really was not going to post in here again because this thread is getting cluttered with crap and the OP will have issues making his choice. LAST post in here for me= Like anyone cares anyway. But all the GTM fan boys and Sam and Mike will be happy.

"Their tune is the issue, "My kit out of the box 9-10 PSI made 412 WHP, Advertised power" UM tune is mentioned NO?? Funny how you guys alwauy grab the quote after that,, OH WAIT you missed it, Didnt see it right???

Did you read the OP statment saying you have to"Over spin the SC to make the advertised power" Oh Wait you missed that also right?

BTW 3 blown motors is that big a deal out of the 100's of kits you've sold, Stop trying to sell people on you guys being perfect casue no one is.
But 3% wouldnt keep me from buying something. An we are ALL so LUCKY you stepped in and STOPPED alll these falsehoods, Wish everyone was so lucky as to have someone like YOU,,,, ' NOT

fahkyotech · 09-09-2012, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weiboy718

Anmvq.

You did say that! Especially over at myg37. Need me to dig it up for you

Please do!!!

Vichtz · 09-09-2012, 12:08 PM

luigi90210 · 09-09-2012, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NitrousZ34

Everyone gets quoted but me?? lol

In all seriousness, I am a big fan of GTM and their products, always have been. I have first hand experienced Stillen's Customer service, and their kit on my friends HR 350z. He has not had any problems with the kit, so far, but when we took a trip down to Stillen's facility to pick up the CARB sticker they would not give it to him because he was suppose to get his car tuned with the stock cats to be able to get the sticker. They never informed him of this and i now that for a fact because i was there before he got the install, after he picked the car up from the install, and the third time we were there to pick up the sticker. The only reason why he went with Stillen is because he lives in Los Angeles and cops crack down on street cars hard and he just didn't want to be hassled without a carb sticker at least. I know a sticker won't help all the time, but hey who knows. The other reason was because the kit is warrentied. I don't even know if they will honor that now because of the whole exhaust issue. I am not bashing Stillen, there are a bunch of good guys over there that have done alot of R&D work for our cars, which i am thankful for. So basically what im trying to say goes along with what others have said. The stillen kit is a quality system out the box, but if you plan on really pushing it, you could come across some problems and the customer service isn't the greatest. In my opinion i would go with GTM, as what i will be doing in the future. Not their supercharger kit, but their twin turbo kit. I have respect for both companies but I would go with GTM. Hope this helps OP

thank you, it really helps to read posts like this instead of the bashing(which i kind of expected this to happen but still...), i dont plan on pushing it anymore than whats out of the box with their tune(or maybe a custom tune not sure yet), how satisfied is your friend with his supercharger kit?

I am in san diego and cops here dont crack down on modified cars unless you're street racing or something along those lines so im not to worried about a cop asking me to pop my hood but i would like to keep everything legal at that off chance that it happens

Quote:

Originally Posted by swiss370Z

I try my best in English!

Hey Guys

Be nice to each other again......

The question of what SC- Kit you should take, everyone should decide for themselves.
I find it very sad that the same war breaks out again and again, when someone asks, what SC- Kit do you recommend?

If both correctly installed, the software optimizes and the car is well maintained
and no long high speed runs are completed (can also be a normal engine explode), is the pure joy of such a SC- Kit nothing in the way.

I drive for 1 1/2 years and 22'000 Km (13'700 miles) one of these kits (STILLEN) so far without problems.
(except catalyst problems...... Which HFC for a TT or SC Build)
Since the software is properly configured.

I am convinced, both companies and could recommend both.

@ Luigi
If you are with a distinctive engine bay (I read you like understatment) and go with carb legal like, then choose STILLEN.

If you want a little more power and unobtrusively go, then choose GTM

My personal tip:
Decide first for the tuner you can install the kit (or let it install directly from the manufacturer) and then make your decision on which kit you want.
Unfortunately I can not give any suggestion where you can go for installation?
I'm too far away (Switzerland)

Just be aware that such an intervention can go on an engine always breaking something as performance will be greatly increased.
I change the engine oil every 3'000 miles (high quality) and regularly check all of the components (air filters, belts, bearings ....).
The maintenance is for a SC- Kit of course higher than normal.

I hope I have helped you a little?

Greetings from Switzerland
Ivo

Thanks you, I kind of understood what your post said but could you clear something up, when you said the engine would break on extended runs, what do you mean?
like autobahn driving 155mph for 1hour straight or 80mph for 10hours straight?

I understand pushing your car hard will break things and that installing this will require more maintenance to keep the car running but I wouldn't want my car breaking on a drive to Vegas or something

NitrousZ34 · 09-09-2012, 08:03 PM

[QUOTE=luigi90210;1908731]thank you, it really helps to read posts like this instead of the bashing(which i kind of expected this to happen but still...), i dont plan on pushing it anymore than whats out of the box with their tune(or maybe a custom tune not sure yet), how satisfied is your friend with his supercharger kit?

I am in san diego and cops here dont crack down on modified cars unless you're street racing or something along those lines so im not to worried about a cop asking me to pop my hood but i would like to keep everything legal at that off chance that it happens

No problem man just trying to help out. From what i have gathered is that Stillen's tune has problems and you are better off going with a custom tune to suit the needs of your driving and your cars mods. I hear you on the whole street racing thing. Basically just don't do anything to attract attention and you will be fine. My friend really does like his kit because, he was the first HR 350z to ever have the kit. I have rode in in plenty of times and the power is definately there. He makes 400rwhp on 100 oct on a 9lb pulley i believe. He is also a 5AT so he will make slighty less power than if he had a 6MT. The car definately moves though. All in all, he is happy with the kit, but is extremely unsatisfied with the customer service. As for reliability, i cannot say because he has only had the kit installed for about a year now and for the past 4 months his car has been going through some new paint and such because of a little incident he had with his ex gf lol so technically hes only been driving the car for 8 months with the kit. Like i said i have nothing against Stillen, but i would strongly recommend getting the GTM kit. In my personal opinion, the kit is better thought out than Stillen's, and the customer sevice is top notch, and that i can speak about from personal experience. Either way, whatever kit you get it will be a huge improvement over what you have now. So good luck and happy modding

2011 Nismo#91 · 09-10-2012, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ANMVQ

You know something you are so FULL of SHAT...

...An BTW if I had hours to search the internet I could fine 3 Blown motors on you kits, But that would be also if you hadnt had them closed or removed from the forums. I have been on here and myg37+350z for a long time and have read at least 3...

BTW 3 blown motors is that big a deal out of the 100's of kits you've sold, Stop trying to sell people on you guys being perfect casue no one is.
But 3% wouldnt keep me from buying something. An we are ALL so LUCKY you stepped in and STOPPED alll these falsehoods, Wish everyone was so lucky as to have someone like YOU,,,, ' NOT

Wow paranoid/delusional much?

What percentage of statistics are made up on the spot?

edub370 · 09-10-2012, 09:53 AM

EVOHUNTER · 09-10-2012, 10:03 AM

OP- buy the boostedperformance kit, best bang for you buck...
It'll walk all over both kits. Ive seen it first hand.

silviakid02 · 09-10-2012, 11:45 AM

Holy hell! I honestly skipped page 4 and 5 of this post because, despite being in the same situation as the op on wanting a sc but liking both, I was getting pissed of reading post after post of personal attacks on one another. If this post contained half as much information as it did crying and bitching I think I could hand design my own kit! Thank you Sam for your contribution on the numbers and graphs. We are all aware that stillen has a leg up on the carb and warranty. While I'm not concerned with the carb the warranty will have some influence on my descision. Can you explain what mechanically makes your kit superior to stillen?

swiss370Z · 09-10-2012, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luigi90210

thank you, it really helps to read posts like this instead of the bashing(which i kind of expected this to happen but still...), i dont plan on pushing it anymore than whats out of the box with their tune(or maybe a custom tune not sure yet), how satisfied is your friend with his supercharger kit?

I am in san diego and cops here dont crack down on modified cars unless you're street racing or something along those lines so im not to worried about a cop asking me to pop my hood but i would like to keep everything legal at that off chance that it happens

Thanks you, I kind of understood what your post said but could you clear something up, when you said the engine would break on extended runs, what do you mean?
like autobahn driving 155mph for 1hour straight or 80mph for 10hours straight?

I understand pushing your car hard will break things and that installing this will require more maintenance to keep the car running but I wouldn't want my car breaking on a drive to Vegas or something

Hey Luigi

I just wanted to say that not a long car ride with your new kit can withstand full power! Even a normal engine can explode so ....

So be careful with long full throttle over 150mph or more on autobahn driving!

I wanted to tell you.
Hope you understand what I mean?

Greetings from Switzerland
Ivo

luigi90210 · 09-10-2012, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EVOHUNTER

OP- buy the boostedperformance kit, best bang for you buck...
It'll walk all over both kits. Ive seen it first hand.

is it carb approved?

it isnt a big deal if it isnt but since i live in california, anything carb approved will always have a 1up over the other kits

ill check that one out though, thanks

luigi90210 · 09-10-2012, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swiss370Z

Hey Luigi

I just wanted to say that not a long car ride with your new kit can withstand full power! Even a normal engine can explode so ....

So be careful with long full throttle over 150mph or more on autobahn driving!

I wanted to tell you.
Hope you understand what I mean?

Greetings from Switzerland
Ivo

ok that makes more sense, i dont push my car to hard anyways, i think the hardest i pushed it was 130 since i got it

thanks you
luigi90210

09-09-2012, 12:06 AM	#61 (permalink)
speedfreek A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Huntsville,AL Posts: 1,724 Drives: '12 370Z PW 6sp Rep Power: 18	It's comical how certain ones are saying anyone who doesnt have first hand experience with either product is saying to STFU it's only for the OP to decide the facts. This is an open forum if you dont like it being debated then kindly . Anyone who is considering this route has interest in this information. So before you start saying this has blown and that has blown if it is heresay it is best not to bring it in to pass it as fact as it will quickly be called out. How do I know if he doesn't have a friend or friends that have a certiain SC setup that have blown them. Easy question to answer and dumb question to ask. Anyone that has said product and blown their engine has either A) notified the seller of said product about their problem and laying blame on the kit or B) owned up that they are a dumbazz and should not be allowed around said parts or anything mechanical for that matter. __________________ Tomei\|Berk\|Takeda\|ZSpeed\|Fortune Auto\|Swift\|Eibach\|SPL\|Carbotech\|Motul\|Powertrix\|Stillen\|Aerojacket\|Z1\|Forgestar\|Enkei\|Project Kics\|Nismo Ti\|Llumar speedfreek's journal

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EVOHUNTER Track Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Edmonton, Canada Posts: 681 Drives: BOOSTED3-7-0 Rep Power: 14	OP- buy the boostedperformance kit, best bang for you buck... It'll walk all over both kits. Ive seen it first hand. __________________

09-10-2012, 11:45 AM	#72 (permalink)
silviakid02 Base Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Connecticut Posts: 79 Drives: 09 MB touring/sport Rep Power: 13	Holy hell! I honestly skipped page 4 and 5 of this post because, despite being in the same situation as the op on wanting a sc but liking both, I was getting pissed of reading post after post of personal attacks on one another. If this post contained half as much information as it did crying and bitching I think I could hand design my own kit! Thank you Sam for your contribution on the numbers and graphs. We are all aware that stillen has a leg up on the carb and warranty. While I'm not concerned with the carb the warranty will have some influence on my descision. Can you explain what mechanically makes your kit superior to stillen? Last edited by silviakid02; 09-10-2012 at 01:06 PM.

09-09-2012, 03:12 AM	#62 (permalink)
NitrousZ34 Banned Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Canoga Posts: 505 Drives: Myself crazy Rep Power: 0	Everyone gets quoted but me?? lol In all seriousness, I am a big fan of GTM and their products, always have been. I have first hand experienced Stillen's Customer service, and their kit on my friends HR 350z. He has not had any problems with the kit, so far, but when we took a trip down to Stillen's facility to pick up the CARB sticker they would not give it to him because he was suppose to get his car tuned with the stock cats to be able to get the sticker. They never informed him of this and i now that for a fact because i was there before he got the install, after he picked the car up from the install, and the third time we were there to pick up the sticker. The only reason why he went with Stillen is because he lives in Los Angeles and cops crack down on street cars hard and he just didn't want to be hassled without a carb sticker at least. I know a sticker won't help all the time, but hey who knows. The other reason was because the kit is warrentied. I don't even know if they will honor that now because of the whole exhaust issue. I am not bashing Stillen, there are a bunch of good guys over there that have done alot of R&D work for our cars, which i am thankful for. So basically what im trying to say goes along with what others have said. The stillen kit is a quality system out the box, but if you plan on really pushing it, you could come across some problems and the customer service isn't the greatest. In my opinion i would go with GTM, as what i will be doing in the future. Not their supercharger kit, but their twin turbo kit. I have respect for both companies but I would go with GTM. Hope this helps OP

09-09-2012, 08:03 PM	#68 (permalink)
NitrousZ34 Banned Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Canoga Posts: 505 Drives: Myself crazy Rep Power: 0	[QUOTE=luigi90210;1908731]thank you, it really helps to read posts like this instead of the bashing(which i kind of expected this to happen but still...), i dont plan on pushing it anymore than whats out of the box with their tune(or maybe a custom tune not sure yet), how satisfied is your friend with his supercharger kit? I am in san diego and cops here dont crack down on modified cars unless you're street racing or something along those lines so im not to worried about a cop asking me to pop my hood but i would like to keep everything legal at that off chance that it happens No problem man just trying to help out. From what i have gathered is that Stillen's tune has problems and you are better off going with a custom tune to suit the needs of your driving and your cars mods. I hear you on the whole street racing thing. Basically just don't do anything to attract attention and you will be fine. My friend really does like his kit because, he was the first HR 350z to ever have the kit. I have rode in in plenty of times and the power is definately there. He makes 400rwhp on 100 oct on a 9lb pulley i believe. He is also a 5AT so he will make slighty less power than if he had a 6MT. The car definately moves though. All in all, he is happy with the kit, but is extremely unsatisfied with the customer service. As for reliability, i cannot say because he has only had the kit installed for about a year now and for the past 4 months his car has been going through some new paint and such because of a little incident he had with his ex gf lol so technically hes only been driving the car for 8 months with the kit. Like i said i have nothing against Stillen, but i would strongly recommend getting the GTM kit. In my personal opinion, the kit is better thought out than Stillen's, and the customer sevice is top notch, and that i can speak about from personal experience. Either way, whatever kit you get it will be a huge improvement over what you have now. So good luck and happy modding

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