Recommended supercharger setup?

speedfreek

I think the graphs speak volumes for each kit. I know when it's time to pull the trigger on a kit I am going with GTM. They have been proven time and time again they can make the stated power. It doesn't bode well for Stillen when all you hear is about bad customer service, inferior parts out of the box, bad tune delivered (this is the lesser of evils as I would be getting a custom tune anyway). But with that still the tune should be somewhat close and I feel the bad tune that is delivered is way off.

I don't understand the bashing of GTM with their contributions to the community. It is way off base to slam them without all the facts to back it up. It makes it seem one is trying to justify their purchase to say the other is inferior in some way even if it is all make believe in their own head.

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Mike@GTM

I think you are missing the point of Sam's post. You are misleading people with your statements. That's the bottom line.

We have nothing against sharing experiences honestly and factually, in fact, we encourage it. The problem we have with what you keep posting is that you continuously portray your setup as the best thing since sliced bread when you have previously stated the exact opposite. Take a look at the posts by some of the other Stillen kit owners: they're not wearing rose colored glasses and painting it as something it isn't.

Also, what do you call a statement that is not factual with the intent to mislead your audience? I'll give you a hint: it starts with the letter "L", includes two vowels and is three letters long. Remember, a rose by any other name is still a rose.

Again, you just can't help yourself as in the same line you say the following:

Seriously? What is that supposed to mean? It's one or the other, it can't be both.

ANMVQ

Nice you are going GTM no one is bashing, But GLAD to see another . . . ...

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jezeka777

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EVOHUNTER

I dont believe for 1 second, that gtm hasnt had a motor blow...
I have a friends 370 motor go, he had the stage 1 kit gtm kit...
Before every gtm fan gets there panties in a bunch, ill state that
his motor blew from an inproper tune (not the kit or reliablity of the kit)
He pushed it with meth injection, and crazy timing.. aswell, the tuner has a bad rep
and will always have a bad rep.
Again he wasnt using Sam's tune, but thats his choice.
How do we know 100% sure motors havent blown up, we dont know.
Maybe the guy isnt part of this forum? maybe the guy has no interest in beening on the forum. maybe the motor blew, and he just sucked it up and started the rebiuld.
And never contacted GTM. So to say youve never had a motor blow is out of the question.
In all reality, you cant say youve never had a motor blow.
Again, im not here to bash on GTM, they make a great product and from what ive heard, have great service. If i could go back in time, i would go gtm but its said and done now.

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Mike@GTM

If you read Sam's post, you would plainly see that he said that there is one engine failure with our supercharger kit that we know of. We never said what you are implying. I invite you to read a little more carefully before jumping to conclusions and making incorrect statements when the facts are right in front of you.

EVOHUNTER

Ok, ive read every post on this thread. What im saying : how can u prove his facts are real or fake. You cant. how do u know he doesnt have friends with gtm kits have blown up. you dont know that. You guys are calling him a liar, on facts you dont even have. He never once said your kit was bad, or unreliable. What give you the right to say his facts are all untrue? Mike said theres only one kit that he knows of, so what about the ones he doesnt know about?

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Mike@GTM

OK. First of all, it is impossible to prove the nonexistence of something that does not exist. It is not up to us to prove that it does not exist, it is up to you to prove that it does. Therefore, your argument is invalid.

Second of all, when AMNVQ stated that there exists a handful of blown engines (which btw, implies more than one) and there is only one that we know of, we asked for him to back up his claim that there exists more than one. He did not/could not.

If you can't back up your claim that something exists with proof, then your claim is false. Here's an example. I claim that unicorns exist. Unless I can furnish proof that unicorns exist, the statement is false. While I could argue that it may be possible that there exists a unicorn on some far away planet in another galaxy, I cannot substantiate my claim and therefore my statement that unicorns exist is not true because I do not know that it is true nor can I prove it.

Furthermore, we pointed out that his statement of "I made 412whp out of the box" was false due to his previous statement of "I only made 352whp and the Stillen tune sucks". That does not mean that we unequivocally implied that everything he said is a lie. We only said that that particular statement is a lie and we have given proof to that effect.

Now, while it is true that his credibility is damaged as a result of his lie, that does not necessarily mean that everything he says is a lie. Only that everything he says should be examined more closely and the question of whether or not he is telling the truth has been raised.

As someone in this thread pointed out earlier, anyone reading any of this should most definitely determine whether what they read is true or not. However, had we not stepped in to correct a false assertion, the casual reader would assume that everything written is true and the falsehood would continue to be disseminated.

ANMVQ

You know something you are so FULL of SHAT, I'm really getting sick and tired of your crap, REALLY I said on the Stillen tune I made 412WHP??( Really read my SIG?) I did sa- out of the box , Meaning there stock pulleys and SC ( The question was about the Stillen parts not the tune) Give me a Fn break man really find something else to do with your life.. An BTW if I had hours to search the internet I could fine 3 Blown motors on you kits, But that would be also if you hadnt had them closed or removed from the forums. I have been on here and myg37+350z for a long time and have read at least 3, Why else would I say so??? Do I hate you guys over there. Didnt but( DO NOW) Do I work for Stillen ?? NOPE?? Dont even really like them that much.. IS their kit the "BEST thing since sliced bread"? NOPE thats why I'm making changes.. I really was not going to post in here again because this thread is getting cluttered with crap and the OP will have issues making his choice. LAST post in here for me= Like anyone cares anyway. But all the GTM fan boys and Sam and Mike will be happy.

"Their tune is the issue, "My kit out of the box 9-10 PSI made 412 WHP, Advertised power" UM tune is mentioned NO?? Funny how you guys alwauy grab the quote after that,, OH WAIT you missed it, Didnt see it right???

Did you read the OP statment saying you have to"Over spin the SC to make the advertised power" Oh Wait you missed that also right?

BTW 3 blown motors is that big a deal out of the 100's of kits you've sold, Stop trying to sell people on you guys being perfect casue no one is.
But 3% wouldnt keep me from buying something. An we are ALL so LUCKY you stepped in and STOPPED alll these falsehoods, Wish everyone was so lucky as to have someone like YOU,,,, ' NOT

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2011 Nismo#91

If it were my money, and eventually it will be. I would go for GTM. Their knowledge and service is great. And Sam is very dedicated to helping our community out.

ANMVQ

Hi Mike, Thanx for the post, The 352 WHP was on Stillens "CAN" tune the 412 WHP was after my custom tune.

And please show me where I said my kit was the best thing since sliced bread? If it was I would not have changed the pulleys, Upgraded the SC impeller wheel and would not have bought I huge front mount style heat exchanger and UPREV MAF's. An how am I miss leading, By saying my opions.. Just curious I still have not said BUY STILLEN not GTM.

OH wait on guy who was in CA and is overly worried about the Carb thing.

Again try to remember I LIKE the GTM kit never bashed it NEVER said it SUX, NEVER Said Stillens is better, IT just one someone else on here says" GTM IS GOD" I have to say well there is another choice thats all.. My overal experience is EH to say the best,

Go way back to when I frist got it and the car would not start, Hot start isseus,


Lets rest this. Thank you
Yes there are issue with the Stillen kit, Just like a think there are somethings with yours I'm not comfortable with. But that what makes the world turn isnt it? Again NOT BASHING or misleading anyone,.

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MMC Racing

The availability or non-availability of an aftermarket car part does not worry me. Who would be worried about such a thing? I realize you are in full retreat after being called out. This is the time to either stand your ground or fold - not to deflect.

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speedfreek

It's comical how certain ones are saying anyone who doesnt have first hand experience with either product is saying to STFU it's only for the OP to decide the facts. This is an open forum if you dont like it being debated then kindly . Anyone who is considering this route has interest in this information. So before you start saying this has blown and that has blown if it is heresay it is best not to bring it in to pass it as fact as it will quickly be called out. How do I know if he doesn't have a friend or friends that have a certiain SC setup that have blown them. Easy question to answer and dumb question to ask. Anyone that has said product and blown their engine has either A) notified the seller of said product about their problem and laying blame on the kit or B) owned up that they are a dumbazz and should not be allowed around said parts or anything mechanical for that matter.

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weiboy718

Anmvq.

You did say that! Especially over at myg37. Need me to dig it up for you