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GaleForce 04-23-2012 08:38 AM

I think 500hp at the wheels on a stock block should be suitable for most...

sfearl1 04-23-2012 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by GaleForce (Post 1680005)
I think 500hp at the wheels on a stock block should be suitable for most...

:iagree:

Boosted Performance 04-23-2012 09:00 AM

I agree, however, it is good to have options. I am sure that soon enough these engines will be getting built with forged internals, and they will have a solid upgrade option when the time comes.

wheee! 04-23-2012 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Boosted Performance (Post 1679985)
All the O2's stay, I just have not welded the bungs in yet. Also, UpRev uses the O2 sensors that are in the headers, and not those that are in/post cat.

BTW, if you wish to swing by and have a look at the build, you are more than welcome to. Just send me a PM.

:drool: :excited:

expect a PM... :icon17:

G37Sam 04-23-2012 11:12 AM

Can't remember the last time I enjoyed going through a 19 page thread like I did here

Major respect to your work and welding skills.. top notch

GaleForce 04-23-2012 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Boosted Performance (Post 1680032)
I agree, however, it is good to have options. I am sure that soon enough these engines will be getting built with forged internals, and they will have a solid upgrade option when the time comes.

Yes, I agree. I would much rather have something that is "over built" and only use a portion of it potential knowing I have room for improvement without having to start all over. It one of the things that I really like about the direction you're going. :tup:

JMac88 04-23-2012 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by wheee! (Post 1680130)
:drool: :excited:

expect a PM... :icon17:

He is banned!

esfourteen 04-23-2012 11:32 AM

After installing the GTM TT kit on my back, I can safely say this is going to be a BREEZE to install comparatively. I love the GTM kit and enjoy having "twins", but this is a great option for DIY and I probably would have went this route if it was available a few months ago.

As everyone else has said, your up/down pipes are beautiful, really amazing work.

O&G 04-23-2012 11:35 AM

This kit will have the potential to make big whp/wtq on a built motor, no doubt!! The fact that you can put almost any size turbo you want in that area is a plus.

ZMan8 04-23-2012 11:44 AM

this is looking very good!

I'm excited to see the final results and may consider this if I ever decide to go FI.

theaudir8fan 04-23-2012 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Boosted Performance (Post 1679985)
BTW, if you wish to swing by and have a look at the build, you are more than welcome to. Just send me a PM.

:excited: I will figure out my weekend plans, and PM you later this week. :happydance:

wheee! 04-23-2012 12:36 PM

Just drive north till it stops sucking and you're in Edmonton...! lol

wheee! 04-23-2012 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JMac88 (Post 1680302)
He is banned!


:bowrofl: :gtfo2::tup:

theaudir8fan 04-23-2012 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by wheee! (Post 1680488)
Just drive north till it stops sucking and you're in Edmonton...! lol

Really? Only got worst for me, haha :stirthepot:

carboy281 04-24-2012 10:12 AM

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot..._7632529_n.jpg

we developed the first twin scroll kit that we never pushed. came out pretty good. car made 706whp at 22 psi on meth on a 4088 journal bearing. your kits perform great also. really want to see how the twin scroll comes out on your new kit!

O&G 04-24-2012 10:58 AM

^bizness

Boosted Performance 04-24-2012 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by carboy281 (Post 1682362)
we developed the first twin scroll kit that we never pushed. came out pretty good. car made 706whp at 22 psi on meth on a 4088 journal bearing. your kits perform great also. really want to see how the twin scroll comes out on your new kit!

Jtran Sudios right? I remember that build, it worked out great with some solid fabrication to back it up. What were the specs on the back side of that turbo?

With that setup, the runner length is different feeding the turbo. I am really trying hard to keep it all equal length, so that "should" help a bit. I think the rear transmission support had to be taken off for the crossover pipe to slide over. A bit more of an involved install, but same idea.

From reading many back to back comparisons the PTE6766 should outperform the 4088 all day long, so untill somebody builds the block we won't really know how far this will go. I think deep 700's are a reasonable guess, with proper supporting mods of course.

EDIT:

I should mention that the main reason for going with the twin scroll is that it offers much larger turbine housing options...all the way up to a 1.32 a/r. The open T4 only goes up to a .96 a/r, although I think that is a "big enough" turbine to support a decent amount of power.

carboy281 04-24-2012 11:51 AM

iirc it was a 1.06 ar. keep up the good work Sasha. **** looks good! your welding looks alot better!. color looks good. the weld u posted up a few pages ago seems under cut a little, are you back purging all the welds on the feed side? you using argon? if you are try using helium.and yes jtran studios.

Boosted Performance 04-24-2012 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by carboy281 (Post 1682602)
iirc it was a 1.06 ar. keep up the good work Sasha. **** looks good! your welding looks alot better!. color looks good. the weld u posted up a few pages ago seems under cut a little, are you back purging all the welds on the feed side? you using argon? if you are try using helium.and yes jtran studios.

Thanks for the info. and yes that particular weld is a bit under-cut. I have to get some .030 filler rod (or smaller) for those. I have .045 but it is a bit much I find. All welds are back purged with straight argon, and look great on the inside. Solid penetration, at about 75A.

This would be a better representation of what the welds look like:

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...D/IMG_6591.jpg

carboy281 04-24-2012 12:07 PM

looking good man! definitely way better then before man! schedule 10 pipe? 75a is good! what welder are you using? gotta try out helium when you have the chance!!! .045 is the rod of choice here on aluminum or stainless!

Boosted Performance 04-24-2012 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by carboy281 (Post 1682644)
looking good man! definitely way better then before man! schedule 10 pipe? 75a is good! what welder are you using? gotta try out helium when you have the chance!!! .045 is the rod of choice here on aluminum or stainless!

.065 wall 304ss, moving quick, and dipping that .045 rod like a mad man. The welder is an Everlast 200dx. I will look in to helium. I use .065 filler on aluminium.

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...5287829114.jpg

carboy281 04-24-2012 12:20 PM

aluminum looks good buddy! try running the cfm on the argon down a bit and run the amperage up a bit more. seems like the cleansing area is way too much. stop wasting that argon! when you do try helium, lmk how you like it!

Boosted Performance 04-24-2012 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by carboy281 (Post 1682675)
aluminum looks good buddy! try running the cfm on the argon down a bit and run the amperage up a bit more. seems like the cleansing area is way too much. stop wasting that argon! when you do try helium, lmk how you like it!

I noticed it was a bit better with less argon too. Thanks for all the tips, somethimes it is the very small things that make the biggest difference. I really did not have anbody to learn this stuff from to be honest. I went to school for electronics, not welding :icon17: This is something that I picked up a while back, and find that practice makes perfect. Really like to buils stuff, and regret for not going in to mechanical Eng. instead of electronics Eng.

Ah well, at least I am still doing what I like.

mhcoss 04-24-2012 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Boosted Performance (Post 1682740)
I noticed it was a bit better with less argon too. Thanks for all the tips, somethimes it is the very small things that make the biggest difference. I really did not have anbody to learn this stuff from to be honest. I went to school for electronics, not welding :icon17: This is something that I picked up a while back, and find that practice makes perfect. Really like to buils stuff, and regret for not going in to mechanical Eng. instead of electronics Eng.

Ah well, at least I am still doing what I like.

Thats funny because I have a degree in mechanical engineering and work on computers and simulations all day. I think the degree just teaches you how to use your mind

Nixlimited 04-24-2012 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by mhcoss (Post 1683177)
Thats funny because I have a degree in mechanical engineering and work on computers and simulations all day. I think the degree just teaches you how to use your mind

:iagree: It's mental weight lifting.

wheee! 04-24-2012 04:57 PM

I just blow sh!t up...


gotta love the army.....

Zat_Zuma 04-25-2012 08:39 AM

I just make lots of things that go boom :p

Boosted Performance 04-25-2012 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by wheee! (Post 1683289)
I just blow sh!t up...


gotta love the army.....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zat_Zuma (Post 1684498)
I just make lots of things that go boom :p

This is a constructive thread boys..not DE-constructive...:bowrofl:

wheee! 04-25-2012 08:57 PM

You must be getting close now Sasha!

Boosted Performance 04-25-2012 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by wheee! (Post 1685755)
You must be getting close now Sasha!

Well, I am getting there..it is 10:40pm and I just got in from the garage, after an eight hour work day.

On the bright side, things are looking up. I was able to build a complete new set of intercooler pipes today, so that almost completes the second kit that I am keeping here to build jigs off of. The oil pan spacer is in as well, so that took a bit of time as I took a lot of pictures for the install instructions, while making small mental notes.

I also discovered that the first pipe on the hot side (attaches to the compressor outlet) will be very easy to install as it can be pushed through from under the passenger side header. I mentioned earlier that this pipe will be a PITA to install with the oil filter plate in place...this is no longer the case. IC piping should take about 30min to install with this kit.

The exhaust stuff will also be rather quick, as it will simply bolt up to the OEM headers, and then the turbo goes on via 4 bolts...again very simple. Down pipe will be two V-bands, no rocket science there.

I have to make a pit stop tomorrow and get two -8an 45* fittings for the oil cooler lines. I had picked up a bunch of 90* fittings, but a couple of 45's are better suited here. The oil feed to the turbo will be taken off of the OEM oil pressure sensor, and it gets a bit busy there, so the 45's will divert a couple of the big lines. I hope to get all the oil lines done tomorrow, get the FMIC mounted for good, and have it ready for the bumper to go back on.

After that is all done I will focus on recirculating the wastegates. This should not be too bad at all. Then I will move on to the fuel pump and injectors, so half day for that.

Too tired to load pictures this evening...will post them up tomorrow.

O&G 04-26-2012 12:08 AM

Dedication to quality and the ease of install for the customer! Awesome !! http://serve.mysmiley.net/happy/happy0030.gif

Reality 04-26-2012 08:05 AM

Sasha,

Not sure if you mentioned it (my apologies if I missed it) but how long do you think this install would take?
-If one had access to a hoist and had basic wrenching abilities..

Thanks,
R

Boosted Performance 04-26-2012 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Reality (Post 1686393)
Sasha,

Not sure if you mentioned it (my apologies if I missed it) but how long do you think this install would take?
-If one had access to a hoist and had basic wrenching abilities..

Thanks,
R

It all depends, some people take their time and others just want to get it done. I think if one takes time to do the install, an easy weekend would do it.

Some of the stuff will be preassembled as well. The new filter relocation will come bolted up already, so two bolt on the car and you are done. Same goes for the oil cooler, two screws and it is done. Scavenge pump will come bolted to it's mounting bracket as well, so two more bolts and it is installed. I lik to pre-assemble a lot of stuff, and label it all very well. All the fittings will have teflon tape on already also, and some will be already in place (oil relocation, scavenge pump..ect.)

Reality 04-26-2012 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boosted Performance (Post 1686453)
It all depends, some people take their time and others just want to get it done. I think if one takes time to do the install, an easy weekend would do it.

Some of the stuff will be preassembled as well. The new filter relocation will come bolted up already, so two bolt on the car and you are done. Same goes for the oil cooler, two screws and it is done. Scavenge pump will come bolted to it's mounting bracket as well, so two more bolts and it is installed. I lik to pre-assemble a lot of stuff, and label it all very well. All the fittings will have teflon tape on already also, and some will be already in place (oil relocation, scavenge pump..ect.)

Excellent! I was hoping you would say a weekend.
-I await completion, with eager anticipation!

Thanks Sasha,
R

GaleForce 04-26-2012 12:54 PM

The more I read the more excited I get. I'm putting money in my piggy bank like no tomorrow!

Cell 04-26-2012 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GaleForce (Post 1687062)
The more I read the more excited I get. I'm putting money in my piggy bank like no tomorrow!

I already started saving. :tup:

I am also planning on getting a 18 month no interest card to buy it on too.

ZMan8 04-26-2012 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Cell (Post 1687067)
I already started saving. :tup:

I am also planning on getting a 18 month no interest card to buy it on too.

:happydance:

sfearl1 04-26-2012 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cell (Post 1687067)
I already started saving. :tup:

I am also planning on getting a 18 month no interest card to buy it on too.

:bowrofl: i was approved last week!

Boosted Performance 04-26-2012 02:08 PM

Sounds like I will be very busy next winter. Good thing it lasts 8 months here.

theaudir8fan 04-26-2012 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Boosted Performance (Post 1687220)
Sounds like I will be very busy next winter. Good thing it lasts 8 months here.

Hey man, thanks for the reminder when it just started getting nice out


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