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Boosted Performance 04-16-2012 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by sfearl1 (Post 1667828)
i've been looking forward to these updates everyday :D

And I am trying to keep this as much of a "bolt-on" as a CAI.

Boosted Performance 04-16-2012 11:26 PM

Small update today...I managed to get all the smaller stuff sorted out. The two main things being oil relocation, and scavenge pump mounting.

Oil filter relocation:

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...d/IMG_7111.jpg

I made a bracket so that it bolts up using the OEM front skid plate bolts, and as you can see it worked out great..simple bolt on.

The oil system will go like so:

From oil filter sandwich plate to oil filter, from oil filter to oil cooler, from oil cooler back to oil filter sandwich plate.

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...d/IMG_7114.jpg

Since the scavenge pump does not need servicing (10,000 hour life) it's final resting place will be behind the fender. Again, just a simple bolt on:

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...d/IMG_7117.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...d/IMG_7116.jpg

And I did some shopping today as well, $300 later and I have all that is needed for oil cooling, and oil scavenging. -8and for the oil cooler and -6an for the oil scavenge system. As you can see, there is no cheap rubber hose here:

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...d/IMG_7120.jpg


I am now working on building a sample kit that will stay behind with me once this customer is done. From that I will move on to the jig fabricatio. I managed to build another down pipe, and reverse Y-pipe today. Hope to have another set of hot pipes built to feed the turbo in the next day or two, and then start focusing on finishing this project. There is still a bit of work to do though, but it is looking very good as far as I can see.

Boost_lee 04-17-2012 12:40 AM

very nice updates!

Dzel 04-17-2012 01:00 AM

As far as I can see I have DIBS on first kit for sale!!!:happydance:

wheee! 04-17-2012 07:22 AM

well, at least second dibs maybe! lol

the first one is staying right here in oil town!

mhcoss 04-17-2012 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wheee! (Post 1668490)
well, at least second dibs maybe! lol

the first one is staying right here in oil town!

Midland is pretty much oil and cattle. How do I know? I grew up there! :tup:

PS I will most likely be interested in this kit as well! I'd like to see the car first hand when you complete it if that is possible

Zat_Zuma 04-17-2012 07:49 AM

Gee, those parts look familar. I think I know where you got those :p

I have some info for you if you wish to get a better seal and better oil filter on the relocation head. I had the same fitment problem with the stock oil filter being too small. I even have a old GTM filter kit holder you can have, if you wish.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boosted Performance (Post 1668214)
Small update today...I managed to get all the smaller stuff sorted out. The two main things being oil relocation, and scavenge pump mounting.

Oil filter relocation:

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...d/IMG_7111.jpg

I made a bracket so that it bolts up using the OEM front skid plate bolts, and as you can see it worked out great..simple bolt on.

The oil system will go like so:

From oil filter sandwich plate to oil filter, from oil filter to oil cooler, from oil cooler back to oil filter sandwich plate.

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...d/IMG_7114.jpg

Since the scavenge pump does not need servicing (10,000 hour life) it's final resting place will be behind the fender. Again, just a simple bolt on:

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...d/IMG_7117.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...d/IMG_7116.jpg

And I did some shopping today as well, $300 later and I have all that is needed for oil cooling, and oil scavenging. -8and for the oil cooler and -6an for the oil scavenge system. As you can see, there is no cheap rubber hose here:

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...d/IMG_7120.jpg


I am now working on building a sample kit that will stay behind with me once this customer is done. From that I will move on to the jig fabricatio. I managed to build another down pipe, and reverse Y-pipe today. Hope to have another set of hot pipes built to feed the turbo in the next day or two, and then start focusing on finishing this project. There is still a bit of work to do though, but it is looking very good as far as I can see.


erkthejerk73 04-17-2012 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Dzel (Post 1668372)
As far as I can see I have DIBS on first kit for sale!!!:happydance:

get in line too late bro! ive been on the list for 6+ months already :happydance:

McNeil370 04-17-2012 08:04 AM

cant wait for this kit, mmmmmmm single turbo :yum:
awsome updates, nice work.

VQStryker 04-17-2012 08:19 AM

:tup:

Boosted Performance 04-17-2012 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zat_Zuma (Post 1668525)
Gee, those parts look familar. I think I know where you got those :p

I have some info for you if you wish to get a better seal and better oil filter on the relocation head. I had the same fitment problem with the stock oil filter being too small. I even have a old GTM filter kit holder you can have, if you wish.

Lloyd, the oil filter gasket seats well and the entire oil filter seal is on the plate. This will be the standard relocation kit that comes with the turbo kit, so I don't wish to experiment with others.

PM'ing on the filter part number.

Mopac FTW..:tup:



To the rest of you...stop fighting, there will be plenty of turbo kits for everybody :happydance: It will just take a bit of time to get it all 100% ready and tested.

sfearl1 04-17-2012 08:47 AM

at this point, is the expected cost of materials/price of the kit what you were expecting it to be?

VQStryker 04-17-2012 09:01 AM

^^ turbo and IC will be the pricey parts so im sure it depends on what he does with that.

Boosted Performance 04-17-2012 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by sfearl1 (Post 1668609)
at this point, is the expected cost of materials/price of the kit what you were expecting it to be?

I do have a much better idea of the cost. The oil lines/fittings sure add to the cost, as does the entire oil filter relocation kit. Two waste gates and two BOV's don't help much either....nothing is cheap with this kit.

I am trying to keep the complete kit with fuel injectors (750cc), Uprev tuner..and all the other stuff that goes with the kit at around $6,900.

Considering the quality, how complete the kit is, and ease of install that is a great price. Even if you take it to a shop for an install it won't be nearly as much as a TT kit for example, yet it will be just as capable. With the Stage I (62mm turbo) this is a 600whp out of the box bolt on system with no need to upgrade any of the components that come with the kit.

Dembflyr 04-17-2012 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Boosted Performance (Post 1668908)
I do have a much better idea of the cost. The oil lines/fittings sure add to the cost, as does the entire oil filter relocation kit. Two waste gates and two BOV's don't help much either....nothing is cheap with this kit.

I am trying to keep the complete kit with fuel injectors (750cc), Uprev tuner..and all the other stuff that goes with the kit at around $6,900.

Considering the quality, how complete the kit is, and ease of install that is a great price. Even if you take it to a shop for an install it won't be nearly as much as a TT kit for example, yet it will be just as capable. With the Stage I (62mm turbo) this is a 600whp out of the box bolt on system with no need to upgrade any of the components that come with the kit.

Wow! At that price point I see you being a very busy guy!

I love watching your progress. Very nice!

Boosted Performance 04-17-2012 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Dembflyr (Post 1668943)
Wow! At that price point I see you being a very busy guy!

I love watching your progress. Very nice!

Haha, too late, I am already a very busy guy.

To be honest I have not even looked at the FI options and the prices. Justo now looking at the TT kits, and they are in the $7600.00+ range, and the S/C kits are a bit less, but IMO do not compare to this turbo kit. Not sure what STS goes for, but again, I don't see a comparison between the two kits at all. The only thing in common is that they are both single turbo...that is where it all ends.

chrischhorn 04-17-2012 12:19 PM

I REFUSE TO PAY LESS THEN 8K FOR ALL YOUR EFFORTS AND AMAZING QUALITY! lol I will definitely be pickin one of these up from you if all goes well!

mhcoss 04-17-2012 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Boosted Performance (Post 1668962)
Haha, too late, I am already a very busy guy.

To be honest I have not even looked at the FI options and the prices. Justo now looking at the TT kits, and they are in the $7600.00+ range, and the S/C kits are a bit less, but IMO do not compare to this turbo kit. Not sure what STS goes for, but again, I don't see a comparison between the two kits at all. The only thing in common is that they are both single turbo...that is where it all ends.

I'm sure this has been asked in your thread before but how reliable do you expect your kit to be on a stock motor?

sfearl1 04-17-2012 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boosted Performance (Post 1668908)
I do have a much better idea of the cost. The oil lines/fittings sure add to the cost, as does the entire oil filter relocation kit. Two waste gates and two BOV's don't help much either....nothing is cheap with this kit.

I am trying to keep the complete kit with fuel injectors (750cc), Uprev tuner..and all the other stuff that goes with the kit at around $6,900.

Considering the quality, how complete the kit is, and ease of install that is a great price. Even if you take it to a shop for an install it won't be nearly as much as a TT kit for example, yet it will be just as capable. With the Stage I (62mm turbo) this is a 600whp out of the box bolt on system with no need to upgrade any of the components that come with the kit.

:tup::tup::tup:

wheee! 04-17-2012 12:44 PM

... should get at least 10,000 km's out of it with the stock internals.... :nutswinger:


jk. His kits have been running for a while on the 350Z's with stock internals, no issues...

memorylasts 04-17-2012 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wheee! (Post 1669113)
... should get at least 10,000 km's out of it with the stock internals.... :nutswinger:


jk. His kits have been running for a while on the 350Z's with stock internals, no issues...

^Just adding to

Just set it up to run rally no more then 500-550 at the wheels you should be good, when i get this im going to tune it and set it for 450 to be safe and once it is built then go for bigger numbers. :tup:

blackonorange 04-17-2012 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boosted Performance (Post 1668962)
Haha, too late, I am already a very busy guy.

To be honest I have not even looked at the FI options and the prices. Justo now looking at the TT kits, and they are in the $7600.00+ range, and the S/C kits are a bit less, but IMO do not compare to this turbo kit. Not sure what STS goes for, but again, I don't see a comparison between the two kits at all. The only thing in common is that they are both single turbo...that is where it all ends.

My STs kit was 7 grand shipped with 3 gauges / modules, customs and shipping included which was like 800 bucks :o

Boosted Performance 04-17-2012 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mhcoss (Post 1669055)
I'm sure this has been asked in your thread before but how reliable do you expect your kit to be on a stock motor?

The kit itself will be very reliable. I have customers that make 7 hour round tips a couple of times a month, and have been doing this for almost two years. Not a single issue. Once the kit is installed properly and tuned by a competent tuner, there is nothing to worry about.

I also have customers that autocross with the mid mount kit, again, no issues at all. One customer went from a twin turbo Jim Wolf kit to a mid mount, and he prefers it over the JW TT kit at the track. They key to that is a continuous duty scavenge pump motor, with a pump that is rated to pump 350deg F fluid all day. As I have said before, IMO it is the most important part of a low/mid mount turbo kit.

You can read up on it here: http://turbowerx.com/Scavenge_Pumps/.../Exa-Pump.html

Quote:

350F Fluid Temperature. No other pump comes close. All the materials used in the engineering of this pump were chosen to support extreme duty at extreme temperatures - constantly.
I have these in stock at all times as well, so if anybody needs one...just let me know.

mhcoss 04-17-2012 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boosted Performance (Post 1669172)
The kit itself will be very reliable. I have customers that make 7 hour round tips a couple of times a month, and have been doing this for almost two years. Not a single issue. Once the kit is installed properly and tuned by a competent tuner, there is nothing to worry about.

Good to hear man! I will likely be interested in this next summer from you. Since I live in edmonton is it possible to have you install it as well? Do you have a tuner you trust to tune the car with this kit?

Cheers

Also. that is a beast of a pump I agree

wheee! 04-17-2012 01:22 PM

^ watch the thread in the Zedmonton Lounge for updates in that area....

Flyboy 04-17-2012 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boosted Performance (Post 1668908)
I am trying to keep the complete kit with fuel injectors (750cc), Uprev tuner..and all the other stuff that goes with the kit at around $6,900.

That's Canadian Right??:tiphat:

wheee! 04-17-2012 03:44 PM

lol.... that means it will be more expensive for Amuricans! :icon18:

GaleForce 04-17-2012 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 1669461)
That's Canadian Right??:tiphat:

My fingers are crossed. :icon17:

mhcoss 04-17-2012 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wheee! (Post 1669479)
lol.... that means it will be more expensive for Amuricans! :icon18:

Depends.. the exchange rate keeps flippin back and forth!

wheee! 04-17-2012 04:58 PM

I believe it will be fairly cheap on either side of the border. Most of the parts are coming from US suppliers and can be direct shipped most likely. I think Sasha had commented on this earlier in the thread....

mhcoss 04-17-2012 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wheee! (Post 1669717)
I believe it will be fairly cheap on either side of the border. Most of the parts are coming from US suppliers and can be direct shipped most likely. I think Sasha had commented on this earlier in the thread....

In that case perhaps the price would be cheaper in the states because then import duties can be avoided in many cases

wheee! 04-17-2012 05:51 PM

But the pipe fabrication will be done in Canada and the import fees to the states will be equal to what we pay to bring the components into Canada... in the end it will be a wash is my guess...

Dzel 04-17-2012 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boosted Performance (Post 1668908)
I do have a much better idea of the cost. The oil lines/fittings sure add to the cost, as does the entire oil filter relocation kit. Two waste gates and two BOV's don't help much either....nothing is cheap with this kit.

I am trying to keep the complete kit with fuel injectors (750cc), Uprev tuner..and all the other stuff that goes with the kit at around $6,900.

Considering the quality, how complete the kit is, and ease of install that is a great price. Even if you take it to a shop for an install it won't be nearly as much as a TT kit for example, yet it will be just as capable. With the Stage I (62mm turbo) this is a 600whp out of the box bolt on system with no need to upgrade any of the components that come with the kit.

:tup:.... So where do I send my money and how soon can the kit ship out:stirthepot:

Boosted Performance 04-17-2012 07:46 PM

oooops double post.

Boosted Performance 04-17-2012 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wheee! (Post 1669815)
But the pipe fabrication will be done in Canada and the import fees to the states will be equal to what we pay to bring the components into Canada... in the end it will be a wash is my guess...

The import fees are nothing compared to those we see in Canada on packages coming from the U.S. For example, the turbo I got the other day cost me $135 at the door...good old UPS. I prefer to ship everything through Canada post (USPS) because you only pay tax.

I have sent many items to the U.S via UPS valued/insured for $2800 and the customer only pays about $80. If the same package was to get sent from the U.S to me, I would pay $220 or so at the door. Not sure how that works to be honest.


Either way, a lot of the stuff will go from my suppliers direct to customers. All that will ship from me is the exhaust piping, intercooler piping, brackets, silicone couplers, clamps, hoses, relocation kit, air filter...ect. Turbo, BOV's, waste gates, FMIC, injectors, EMS, Fuel pump...will all go direct from my supplier.

So for the canadian guys the kit will be a bit more due to the shipping difference.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Dzel (Post 1669917)
:tup:.... So where do I send my money and how soon can the kit ship out:stirthepot:

As soon as the kit is working like the way I want it to on the test car, and once I have the jigs done up. The jigs take a bit of time, because there is no room for error.

wheee! 04-17-2012 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boosted Performance (Post 1670010)
The import fees are nothing compared to those we see in Canada on packages coming from the U.S. For example, the turbo I got the other day cost me $135 at the door...good old UPS. I prefer to ship everything through Canada post (USPS) because you only pay tax.

I have sent many items to the U.S via UPS valued/insured for $2800 and the customer only pays about $80. If the same package was to get sent from the U.S to me, I would pay $220 or so at the door. Not sure how that works to be honest.


Either way, a lot of the stuff will go from my suppliers direct to customers. All that will ship from me is the exhaust piping, intercooler piping, brackets, silicone couplers, clamps, hoses, relocation kit, air filter...ect. Turbo, BOV's, waste gates, FMIC, injectors, EMS, Fuel pump...will all go direct from my supplier.

So for the US guys the kit will be a bit more due to the Northern Neighbour Performance Premium.

Fixed

Flyboy 04-17-2012 09:20 PM

What's being used between the exhaust manifold and the turbo pipe?

Boosted Performance 04-17-2012 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wheee! (Post 1670134)
Fixed

Thanks for catching that mistake..

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 1670191)
What's being used between the exhaust manifold and the turbo pipe?

???

Flyboy 04-18-2012 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boosted Performance (Post 1670206)
Thanks for catching that mistake..



???

The factory gaskt is best, but it is a metal Donut. you will have to fab your pipe to fit it.

No exhaust leaks at the exhaust manifold would be the difference in me buying the kit or not, considering if there are leaks at the exhaust manifold it looks like it would be a pain to replace the gaskets.

Boosted Performance 04-18-2012 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 1670831)
The factory gaskt is best, but it is a metal Donut. you will have to fab your pipe to fit it.

No exhaust leaks at the exhaust manifold would be the difference in me buying the kit or not, considering if there are leaks at the exhaust manifold it looks like it would be a pain to replace the gaskets.

Are you talking about the 3-bolt flange?

If so, this is the gasket that I will use:

http://www.berktechnology.com/conten...ts/72/main.jpg

These are the best gaskets I could find, and are rated at over 2000 deg F working temperature. Should never have any issues with it. Also, replacing the gasket would not be a big deal.


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