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brucelidat 05-21-2012 12:57 AM

Any idea how much power this might produce or when it might be completed?

valpozguy 05-21-2012 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Boosted Performance (Post 1728592)
That statement needs to be backed up, otherwise it is just a troll post.

I agree!!!!!!

sent from my TWIN TURBO SAMSUNG -SGH -1717

theaudir8fan 05-21-2012 04:16 AM

^ 2 bov, not 1 :D

valpozguy 05-21-2012 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by theaudir8fan (Post 1728758)
^ 2 bov, not 1 :D

Change it before you posted!;)

sent from my TWIN TURBO SAMSUNG -SGH -1717

Boosted Performance 05-21-2012 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by valpozguy (Post 1728656)
This kit should be way cheaper 2 waste gates 1 blow off valve 1 turbo no manifolds excetera

sent from my TWIN TURBO SAMSUNG -SGH -1717

There is also a $400 pump used to bring the oil back to the engine (from the turbo), oil filter relocation kit, oil cooler, larger (750cc vs. 600cc) fuel injectors, larger (340lph vs 255lph) fuel pump.....ect. These are all things that should be considered. Last time I checked an oil cooler for this car was about $400.

The best part of the kit though is that you really can install it yourself. Nothing really complicated here, everything bolts on, nothing to drill, nothing to tap, nothing to cut.



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Originally Posted by brucelidat (Post 1728693)
Any idea how much power this might produce or when it might be completed?


This kit will be on par with the TT kits out there as far as power goes. There is still a bit of work to be done before this is out, so it is hard to say what the release date will be.

valpozguy 05-21-2012 10:05 AM

I have the 25 row innercooler from z1 I really hope this will work.

sent from my TWIN TURBO SAMSUNG -SGH -1717

Mr.Squeeze 05-21-2012 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Boosted Performance (Post 1728954)
There is also a $400 pump used to bring the oil back to the engine (from the turbo), oil filter relocation kit, oil cooler, larger (750cc vs. 600cc) fuel injectors, larger (340lph vs 255lph) fuel pump.....ect. These are all things that should be considered. Last time I checked an oil cooler for this car was about $400.

The best part of the kit though is that you really can install it yourself. Nothing really complicated here, everything bolts on, nothing to drill, nothing to tap, nothing to cut.






This kit will be on par with the TT kits out there as far as power goes. There is still a bit of work to be done before this is out, so it is hard to say what the release date will be.



It's nice that you are including a Oil cooler kit with the turbo kit.

Will this be a option ? the reason I ask this is some people will want a full kit without the oil cooler.

Staples 05-21-2012 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Squeeze (Post 1729168)
It's nice that you are including a Oil cooler kit with the turbo kit.

Will this be a option ? the reason I ask this is some people will want a full kit without th oil cooler.

Unless they're already running an oil cooler from their previous setup, it's mandatory in my opinion. The oil gets WAY TOO hot because of the VVEL system.

I've seen a couple built 350s that spent all this money on their build, but wouldn't budge for a $500 oil cooler kit. Eventually they ended up spinning a rod bearing. That's the easy out way. Worst case, you snap a rod, disintegrate a piston and need a whole new block because you have a hole the size of an apple.

It's not worth it to run without one.

brucelidat 05-21-2012 01:01 PM

As long as an oil cooler is an option and not automatically included since most of us already have them. A transmission oil cooler would be nice to have included though.

NickD 05-21-2012 01:07 PM

sub-motherfuckin-scribed!

Mr.Squeeze 05-21-2012 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Staples (Post 1729357)
Unless they're already running an oil cooler from their previous setup, it's mandatory in my opinion. The oil gets WAY TOO hot because of the VVEL system.

I've seen a couple built 350s that spent all this money on their build, but wouldn't budge for a $500 oil cooler kit. Eventually they ended up spinning a rod bearing. That's the easy out way. Worst case, you snap a rod, disintegrate a piston and need a whole new block because you have a hole the size of an apple.

It's not worth it to run without one.



Thats what I am trying to get at people that have one already, and would need a full kit minus the oil cooler.

The 350's at least had a factory oil cooler it was air to water one though better than nothing.

They didn't run as hot as the 370's because of this

brucelidat 05-21-2012 03:17 PM

TT power at a fraction of the cost and easy install? can't wait to see reviews when it is completed and installed by some members. TT is way too pricey for me, this may be interesting.

Boosted Performance 05-21-2012 03:22 PM

The oil cooler is made to work with the oil filter relocation kit which will be standard with the turbo kit. If you already have an oil cooler kit, you would have to find a way to make it work with the oil relocation kit. It is all made to work together.

A tuner kit will also be available, for those that do not wish to have the fuel pump, injectors, and Uprev as a part of the kit.

Pricing is still TBD.

ENT-Z 05-21-2012 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Boosted Performance (Post 1729650)
The oil cooler is made to work with the oil filter relocation kit which will be standard with the turbo kit. If you already have an oil cooler kit, you would have to find a way to make it work with the oil relocation kit. It is all made to work together.

A tuner kit will also be available, for those that do not wish to have the fuel pump, injectors, and Uprev as a part of the kit.

Pricing is still TBD.

Perhaps you could give a credit for already having your own oil cooler core but still provide the appropriate lines to and form the oil relocation kit. For instance I already have the Z1 34 row cooler which will be plenty big enough for this turbo kit. I don't want to have to scrap my existing 34 row core....

Boosted Performance 05-21-2012 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ENT-Z (Post 1730209)
Perhaps you could give a credit for already having your own oil cooler core but still provide the appropriate lines to and form the oil relocation kit. For instance I already have the Z1 34 row cooler which will be plenty big enough for this turbo kit. I don't want to have to scrap my existing 34 row core....

I understand that, but I would be guessing on length, fitting type on each end of the hose(straight, 45, or 90 degree), and fitting size. I don't like to guess.

JMac88 05-21-2012 09:46 PM

I have stillen gen 3's, can you fab up your kit to work with those? The pipes look almost identical!

In all seriousness, if a $500 oil cooler is going to hold you back then FI is probably a venture you should not take. If its one thing I have learned from this build is that you always need something else to support, whether its new tires, clutch, sensors ect...

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Originally Posted by ENT-Z (Post 1730209)
Perhaps you could give a credit for already having your own oil cooler core but still provide the appropriate lines to and form the oil relocation kit. For instance I already have the Z1 34 row cooler which will be plenty big enough for this turbo kit. I don't want to have to scrap my existing 34 row core....


OR.. You can sell the oil cooler, take the $100 loss and enjoy some boost :driving:

chrischhorn 05-22-2012 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Boosted Performance (Post 1730218)
I understand that, but I would be guessing on length, fitting type on each end of the hose(straight, 45, or 90 degree), and fitting size. I don't like to guess.

I hope the stock '12 oil cooler wont cause an issue for the relocation kit....removing it isnt a big deal but it would be nice to not have to :p

Oh and sorry corbin! my bad lol

edit: I need to quit lookin at this page cause everytime i scroll through the pics on page 1 it makes my heart rate go up lol

sfearl1 05-22-2012 06:41 PM

Sasha, would you suggest the new 3" exhaust from FI over the one the donor car already had installed?

Boosted Performance 05-22-2012 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by chrischhorn (Post 1731658)
I hope the stock '12 oil cooler wont cause an issue for the relocation kit....removing it isnt a big deal but it would be nice to not have to :p

Oh and sorry corbin! my bad lol

edit: I need to quit lookin at this page cause everytime i scroll through the pics on page 1 it makes my heart rate go up lol

For those that have coolers already, I may have a solution. Push on hose and fittings like this:

http://www.russellperformance.com/mc.../twist-lok.jpg

I can supply the hose, and fittings. All one would have to do is cut it to size, and and push it on to the fitting. Fittings look like this without the hose:

http://www.racehardware.com/Document...0536.45.04.jpg

Still have the -AN ends, so it will work with all oil coolers. I would just have to know what size the -AN inlet is on the cooler. Pretty simple.

Keeping it simple!

chrischhorn 05-22-2012 06:46 PM

well the '12's use the same filter as the ones without the cooler. The plate is only about 1-1 1/2" thick so it just pushes the filter back a bit. Thats about it though. If thats the case, the relocation kit hose just needs to be 2-3" longer at max to be safe that it reaches and everyone can just trim to fit but good to know! :happydance:

Cell 05-22-2012 06:51 PM

What kind of oil temps is the test Z getting with the kit so far?

Boosted Performance 05-22-2012 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by sfearl1 (Post 1731693)
Sasha, would you suggest the new 3" exhaust from FI over the one the donor car already had installed?

To be honest that is a bit of an overkill. You will find a lot of supra guys for example using a single 3" exhaust to make 600whp, and 3.5" single to get well in to the 800's. Dual 3" on a stock block Z is way more than anybody would ever need IMO. Dual 2.5" exhaust will flow more than a single 3.5" as it has a greater combined surface area than a single 3.5" pipe.



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Originally Posted by chrischhorn (Post 1731703)
well the '12's use the same filter as the ones without the cooler. The plate is only about 1-1 1/2" thick so it just pushes the filter back a bit. Thats about it though. If thats the case, the relocation kit hose just needs to be 2-3" longer at max to be safe that it reaches and everyone can just trim to fit but good to know! :happydance:

The oil filter relocation kit that I include has to be used with this kit. From there it would only be two oil lines to whatever cooler you have. One line would go from the new oil filter flange "out" port to the oil cooler inlet, and then from the oil cooler outlet back to the new plate where the OEM filter used to sit.

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Originally Posted by Cell (Post 1731710)
What kind of oil temps is the test Z getting with the kit so far?

Don't know, the car is not tuned yet, so it can't be driven hard enough to get the oil temperatures too high.

sfearl1 05-22-2012 07:26 PM

nvm, saw your reply :tup:

chrischhorn 05-22-2012 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Boosted Performance (Post 1731750)
The oil filter relocation kit that I include has to be used with this kit. From there it would only be two oil lines to whatever cooler you have. One line would go from the new oil filter flange "out" port to the oil cooler inlet, and then from the oil cooler outlet back to the new plate where the OEM filter used to sit.

From the sounds of it, it wont be an issue at all for the stock cooler. If you haven't seen one yet its just a normal sandwhich water cooled cooler. Here are some pics of it and maybe you can chime in whether it would be an issue or not.

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x...6515140944.jpg

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x...6515140428.jpg

chewy08753 05-22-2012 08:36 PM

nice to see someone developing a kit that is user friendly and tries to create work arounds for people who have different mods to keep price down :)

Boosted Performance 05-22-2012 09:10 PM

The one must with the kit is that the OEM oil filter must be replaced with this:

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...d/IMG_7115.jpg

That creates the room needed to run the IC pipe through from the turbo to the front:

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...d/IMG_7127.jpg

chrischhorn 05-23-2012 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Boosted Performance (Post 1731891)
The one must with the kit is that the OEM oil filter must be replaced with this:

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...d/IMG_7115.jpg

That creates the room needed to run the IC pipe through from the turbo to the front:

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...d/IMG_7127.jpg

looks like there is still plenty of room to screw that on top of the stock oil cooler! no worries from me :happydance: IF it does come down to it, ill just remove it and route the coolant line straight through and bypass the stock cooler but like i said, the stock cooler is no more then 2 inches thick so it shouldnt cause a problem. Coolant lines look pushed away enough to not get in the way either. Maybe ill be the first to experiment with this kit with the stock cooler :tiphat:

Boosted Performance 05-23-2012 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by chrischhorn (Post 1732199)
looks like there is still plenty of room to screw that on top of the stock oil cooler! no worries from me :happydance: IF it does come down to it, ill just remove it and route the coolant line straight through and bypass the stock cooler but like i said, the stock cooler is no more then 2 inches thick so it shouldnt cause a problem. Coolant lines look pushed away enough to not get in the way either. Maybe ill be the first to experiment with this kit with the stock cooler :tiphat:


That is as far as you would want to go. The picture is a bit deceiving, because the two plug boolts on the relocation plate are almost touching the coupler. There is not more room than that. I think I spent more time on this
(trying to find a way to route the IC pipe) than I did on the rest of the kit...lol. In the end it is an easy solution.

chrischhorn 05-23-2012 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Boosted Performance (Post 1732454)
That is as far as you would want to go. The picture is a bit deceiving, because the two plug boolts on the relocation plate are almost touching the coupler. There is not more room than that. I think I spent more time on this
(trying to find a way to route the IC pipe) than I did on the rest of the kit...lol. In the end it is an easy solution.

Ah i see what you mean now. When you pointed that out i saw it. Its near touching on the back of the the on the backside of the coupler. Guess the stock cooler has to come out for us '12+ guys.

Boosted Performance 05-23-2012 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by chrischhorn (Post 1732491)
Ah i see what you mean now. When you pointed that out i saw it. Its near touching on the back of the the on the backside of the coupler. Guess the stock cooler has to come out for us '12+ guys.

Correct, and the two hoses will just have to be coupled with a hose barb. No big deal at all. I guess I just need to know the ID of the hose, and the proper part(s) can go out with the kit once I get to that stage.

I will also post the jig building process once the time comes...I am sure some of you will appreciate that as well.

biggestsack 05-23-2012 09:19 PM

want want want want want want want want want want want want want want















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Did I mention I WANT this?
No, this is the first time, because I just got done reading 40 pages of deliciousness! :stirthepot: Amazing craftsmanship and quality Sasha. Put me on the list.


1. JMac88 :excited:
2. Dzel :excited:
3. wheee! :excited:
4. sfearl1 :excited:
5. GaleForce :excited:
6. Cell :excited:
7. Ztog37 :excited: <----Wanna be the first g37 i will put deposit down and just got my twin disc os giken installed now waiting for your kit
8. ChrisChhorn :excited:
9.valpozguy I can't wait! (CASH IN HAND)! :excited:
10. BiggestSack :excited:

Boosted Performance 05-23-2012 09:31 PM

Thanks for the support guys. I will get the word out as soon as these are ready to go. I can't wait to start making these kits, I think you guys will really like the ease of install, maintenance and the awesome performance that it will bring to an already great car.

This will quickly become the number one F.I option for the 370z owners once the reviews start coming in after the first few guys get these installed and tuned.

Versa_Drifter 05-25-2012 07:37 AM

Any idea on gains?

Boosted Performance 05-25-2012 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Versa_Drifter (Post 1736080)
Any idea on gains?

With the twin scroll kit I built for the 350z (identical kit to this) the gains and power under the curve are on par with twin turbo kits. I would say that the kit for the 370z will yield the same results.

chrischhorn 05-25-2012 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Boosted Performance (Post 1736340)
With the twin scroll kit I built for the 350z (identical kit to this) the gains and power under the curve are on par with twin turbo kits. I would say that the kit for the 370z will yield the same results.


Original boost settings on this setup is 8psi right?

Boosted Performance 05-25-2012 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by chrischhorn (Post 1736741)
Original boost settings on this setup is 8psi right?

The waste gates come with all the springs available from Tial. This allows you to select whatever spring you wish during the install. The waste gates are also positioned so that they are very easy to remove if a larger spring is needed/wanted. This is the great advantage of this turbo kit. Everything is easy to get at, making servicing and modifications a breeze.

I was able to switch out the waste gate springs on the donor car without even removing the waste gates from the car. Took only about 15min to do both on a lift.

Here is a spring chart with the spring color code included with every waste gate:

http://forcedinductionsonline.com/im...ring_Chart.JPG


I am confident that the 8.7psi spring will yield 500whp + with a proper tune on a DJ dyno.

wheee! 05-27-2012 06:53 PM

Saw this in the wild today.... :yum:

http://www.the370z.com/members/wheee...-turbo-car.jpg

In for an alignment with the Zedmonton Lounge!

sfearl1 05-27-2012 07:09 PM

^^ donor car?

Boosted Performance 05-27-2012 07:52 PM

Yup, donor car.

On a side note, the car was in yesterday due to some strange wideband sensor readings. It was all over the place, and from experience there could only be one reason for that. The wideband is about 8" downstream from the turbo, and of course the down pipe is connected to the turbine via V-band. With welding and flanges you have to get the heat (amps) up to get a proper weld, with good penetration. As you do that, the flange can warp just a bit and cause a leak. Once removed, the warping was not visible to the naked eye, but id does not take much.

So I took the down pipe off (takes about one minute) and added high temp. RTV to that connection. This is common practice and you will see the RTV used a lot on exhaust systems (flanges). I let it set over night, and James came over this morning to get the car, started it up and the a/f was perfect at 14.5:1 or so at idle. No more bouncing a/f ratios, just perfect.

We went out for a drive, and things looked great. Small adjustment on UpRev and we did a couple of pulls with the 4psi springs in the wastegates. Car pulls HARD, and spools NOW, holding strong all the way to red line. It is quieter than a stock 370z with the F.I exhaust, so a perfect sleeper. I don't think a 370z driver could tell the car was ever turboed, until you step on it.

I can't wait for this car to get tuned properly. I have a feeling that this will surprise a few people once the numbers are out.

Dzel 05-30-2012 05:14 AM

Sasha your just a big tease. I
Ready for boooooosssst!!!


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