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theaudir8fan 06-04-2012 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Boosted Performance (Post 1751567)
Correct.

In the future, I will see if I can get my hands on an auto, and go on from there.

really? if you need R&D for AT, my car is available thru the winter month :tup:

Mkai0 06-04-2012 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by theaudir8fan (Post 1752679)
really? if you need R&D for AT, my car is available thru the winter month :tup:


Please say yes to him Sasha :rolleyes:

Boosted Performance 06-06-2012 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Mkai0 (Post 1752792)
Please say yes to him Sasha :rolleyes:

Once the 6 speed kit is available, I may look in to the A/T kit. For now, I have more work than I can handle..

sfearl1 06-06-2012 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Boosted Performance (Post 1756954)
Once the 6 speed kit is available, I may look in to the A/T kit. For now, I have more work than I can handle..

Time to hire an apprentice :tup:

Boosted Performance 06-06-2012 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by sfearl1 (Post 1756970)
Time to hire an apprentice :tup:

I don't turust anybody with this, so it is out of the question. When you get somebody else to do it, quality/fitment is going to suffer.

I would rather build half as many kits myself that are perfect, than have somebody else built twice the kits with "OK" fitment.

Here is an email that I got yesterday after a customer installed a kit on a 350z:

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By the way Sasha, you asked how easy this kit was to install. Well I'm 18yrs old and have only done 2 other turbo builds on 240's. Its seriously extremely simple! Thank you a lot for your time and help! Can't explain how great the quality and customer service was!
I plan on keeping this reputation.

GaleForce 06-06-2012 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Boosted Performance (Post 1756990)
I don't turust anybody with this, so it is out of the question. When you get somebody else to do it, quality/fitment is going to suffer.

I would rather build half as many kits myself that are perfect, than have somebody else built twice the kits with "OK" fitment.

Here is an email that I got yesterday after a customer installed a kit on a 350z:



I plan on keeping this reputation.

Having that kind of reputation in this (or any) industry is rare. It's refreshing to see. Keep up the excellent work.

sfearl1 06-06-2012 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Boosted Performance (Post 1756990)
I don't turust anybody with this, so it is out of the question. When you get somebody else to do it, quality/fitment is going to suffer.

I would rather build half as many kits myself that are perfect, than have somebody else built twice the kits with "OK" fitment.

Here is an email that I got yesterday after a customer installed a kit on a 350z:



I plan on keeping this reputation.

Yeah, I agree 100% with this statement.

theaudir8fan 06-06-2012 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Boosted Performance (Post 1756954)
Once the 6 speed kit is available, I may look in to the A/T kit. For now, I have more work than I can handle..

Take your time, I'm looking forward to it :tup:

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Originally Posted by Boosted Performance (Post 1756990)
I plan on keeping this reputation.

That's exactly what makes a one product better then the other, great job sasha :tup:

gbrettin 06-06-2012 03:54 PM

If you are considering doing an AT kit sometime next year I am going to hold out for this kit. It would be late next year before I could do something like this anyways.

Again, amazing CLEAN work.

2fast4thelaw 06-07-2012 09:59 PM

Question for Sasha

Would you recommend header wrap on the piping to hold in heat and reduce turbo heat transfer to the transmission and floor of the car? Or maybe even ceramic coating or would it just be overkill?

So far I am extreamly impressed!

Boosted Performance 06-07-2012 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 2fast4thelaw (Post 1759856)
Question for Sasha

Would you recommend header wrap on the piping to hold in heat and reduce turbo heat transfer to the transmission and floor of the car? Or maybe even ceramic coating or would it just be overkill?

So far I am extreamly impressed!

As far as heat transfer to the transmission and srorounding components it is not an issue at all. However, it would not hurt anything if you do wrap it or ceramic coat it.

There is a lot of air moving around there so the heat transfer would be minimal at best.

fuct 06-08-2012 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Boosted Performance (Post 1759882)
As far as heat transfer to the transmission and srorounding components it is not an issue at all. However, it would not hurt anything if you do wrap it or ceramic coat it.

There is a lot of air moving around there so the heat transfer would be minimal at best.

unless you beat on it then sit in 90 degree heat in traffic, no? that cant be good for the transmission. do you have alot of your turbo kits on cars say in texas or florida?

wheee! 06-08-2012 09:13 AM

Darn car is showing up everywhere! Here it is taking 2nd place at the EME Day Show and Shine in Edmonton.... Note the iPad on the engine cowl. It is running a slide show of Sasha's work!
2nd you say? Ya. Some twerp with a barely modded subie talked the judges into giving him first for having a racing seat.... :shakes head:

http://www.the370z.com/members/wheee...roll-turbo.jpg

Boosted Performance 06-08-2012 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by fuct (Post 1760461)
unless you beat on it then sit in 90 degree heat in traffic, no? that cant be good for the transmission. do you have alot of your turbo kits on cars say in texas or florida?

Well, I have an EGT (exhaust temp. gauge). I can beat on the car and get the temperatures up to 1300*F, but by the time I roll to a stop, temp. will fall down to 850*F. Let it idle for 30 seconds, and it goes down to 700*F. The EGT sensor is right at the header, so by the time the exhaust goes down to the turbo it will be a lot cooler than that due to the heat exchange in the piping.

I do have customers down in the southern U.S where it does get very hot. It is simply not an issue at all.

I also have one customer who really beats up on the car (build motor as well), autocross, drag, top speed events..ect. Not a single issue, and this is with an already crappy 2004 350z transmission.

With the 350z's I have the filter sit close to the exhaust manifold, and the top part of the filter (rubber) is about 1" away of the header. No signs of heat damage. Air is a very poor heat conductor.

The kit is track proven.

zguynate 06-08-2012 12:35 PM

So when is this thing hitting the dyno?

Boosted Performance 06-08-2012 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by dragonbreath (Post 1761071)
So when is this thing hitting the dyno?

June 24th.

erkthejerk73 06-08-2012 12:56 PM

sasha im drooling over here!

fuct 06-08-2012 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Boosted Performance (Post 1760604)
Well, I have an EGT (exhaust temp. gauge). I can beat on the car and get the temperatures up to 1300*F, but by the time I roll to a stop, temp. will fall down to 850*F. Let it idle for 30 seconds, and it goes down to 700*F. The EGT sensor is right at the header, so by the time the exhaust goes down to the turbo it will be a lot cooler than that due to the heat exchange in the piping.

I do have customers down in the southern U.S where it does get very hot. It is simply not an issue at all.

I also have one customer who really beats up on the car (build motor as well), autocross, drag, top speed events..ect. Not a single issue, and this is with an already crappy 2004 350z transmission.

With the 350z's I have the filter sit close to the exhaust manifold, and the top part of the filter (rubber) is about 1" away of the header. No signs of heat damage. Air is a very poor heat conductor.

The kit is track proven.


sounds good, but have you ever sat in houston traffic at rush hour in August? the freeway surface alone is over 100 degrees. add in all the other cars heat and the fact your not just idling, you are revving a lil, moving forward then stopping.....

your product looks great, im just curious to conditions this kit would be seeing around my area.

:tup:

Boosted Performance 06-08-2012 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by fuct (Post 1761283)
sounds good, but have you ever sat in houston traffic at rush hour in August? the freeway surface alone is over 100 degrees. add in all the other cars heat and the fact your not just idling, you are revving a lil, moving forward then stopping.....

your product looks great, im just curious to conditions this kit would be seeing around my area.

:tup:

Trust me, there is nothing to worry about.

O&G 06-08-2012 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by fuct (Post 1761283)
sounds good, but have you ever sat in houston traffic at rush hour in August? the freeway surface alone is over 100 degrees. add in all the other cars heat and the fact your not just idling, you are revving a lil, moving forward then stopping.....

your product looks great, im just curious to conditions this kit would be seeing around my area.

:tup:

I live in Houston with a similar setup. No issues at all. I did wrap everything and coat some parts.

Sent from my SAMSUNG GALAXY NOTE using TapTalk 2

JMac88 06-08-2012 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Boosted Performance (Post 1761081)
June 24th.


Can't come fast enough......

I am slowly going crazy.....:eekdance:

gbrettin 06-09-2012 12:46 PM

I'm just going to throw it out there. This has to be one of my favorite threads right now...

Dzel 06-09-2012 07:26 PM

Well I'm in the process of deciding to go with this kit or go with a set of wheels and an AR. I barely put 5000 miles on the car damn thing hasn't even been broken in yet. I have no idea which way to go...

Baer383 06-09-2012 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Dzel (Post 1763428)
Well I'm in the process of deciding to go with this kit or go with a set of wheels and an AR. I barely put 5000 miles on the car damn thing hasn't even been broken in yet. I have no idea which way to go...

I only had 4k on mine and put a GTM stage 1.5 SC and don't regret it.

You will love the power it really wakes this car up.:tup:

Dzel 06-10-2012 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 1763575)
I only had 4k on mine and put a GTM stage 1.5 SC and don't regret it.

You will love the power it really wakes this car up.:tup:

:yum:

Nixlimited 06-10-2012 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 1763575)
I only had 4k on mine and put a GTM stage 1.5 SC and don't regret it.

You will love the power it really wakes this car up.:tup:

You in SoCal by chance? This is the direction I was thinking about going and would love to get a ride in it. The BP kit is the other leading contender that I am waiting to see results from. So many options these days...

Baer383 06-10-2012 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Nixlimited (Post 1764604)
You in SoCal by chance? This is the direction I was thinking about going and would love to get a ride in it. The BP kit is the other leading contender that I am waiting to see results from. So many options these days...

No I'm in Georgia.

Boosted Performance 06-10-2012 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Nixlimited (Post 1764604)
You in SoCal by chance? This is the direction I was thinking about going and would love to get a ride in it. The BP kit is the other leading contender that I am waiting to see results from. So many options these days...

If you are going to compare a s/c to turbo power, the turbo will always be ahead. With a supercharger you will always have parasitic loses and produce less power compared to a turbo.

With a roots blower for example it takes 45hp to produce 10psi of boost. A centrifugal blower is more efficient but still not as good as a turbo(s).

Nixlimited 06-11-2012 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Boosted Performance (Post 1764898)
If you are going to compare a s/c to turbo power, the turbo will always be ahead. With a supercharger you will always have parasitic loses and produce less power compared to a turbo.

With a roots blower for example it takes 45hp to produce 10psi of boost. A centrifugal blower is more efficient but still not as good as a turbo(s).

Yeah, I understand that. Learned that lesson way back in my S2000 days. I'm not interested in being a dyno queen so bragging numbers aren't my end. My primary concerns are (1) drivability; (2) performance; and (3) cost. I like the two different options for different reasons.

I have driven an SC Z and really liked the powerband. Since I like to do track days, the more controllable torque is appealing. Boost onset mid-corner = looking the wrong way down the track. Also, with a car that has traction trouble stock, I wonder about the viability of lots of torque with this platform. The SC kits also tend to be a bit less expensive and a bit less intrusive on the car in terms of installation (e.g. being able to keep crash beam).

But, I love turbo cars too. Love the sound, love the push in the seat, love the efficiency, etc. While I had kind of given up on other turbo kits out there for various reasons, yours piqued my interest because of the apparent ease of installation, cost and potential performance. With a single turbo, I have fewer parts that may fail, fewer fittings that may come loose, etc. Plus, from my Suby days, I love twin scroll design.

Anyway, the point is, my decision on what kit to go with ultimately is multifaceted. Not just power. I look forward to seeing your results.

jofro6 06-11-2012 05:59 PM

I've been trollin this thread for a while now... but, with this so close to being ready to go i really need to get a spare 10Gs in the bank quick lol

JMac88 06-11-2012 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Nixlimited (Post 1766276)
Yeah, I understand that. Learned that lesson way back in my S2000 days. I'm not interested in being a dyno queen so bragging numbers aren't my end. My primary concerns are (1) drivability; (2) performance; and (3) cost. I like the two different options for different reasons.

I have driven an SC Z and really liked the powerband. Since I like to do track days, the more controllable torque is appealing. Boost onset mid-corner = looking the wrong way down the track. Also, with a car that has traction trouble stock, I wonder about the viability of lots of torque with this platform. The SC kits also tend to be a bit less expensive and a bit less intrusive on the car in terms of installation (e.g. being able to keep crash beam).

But, I love turbo cars too. Love the sound, love the push in the seat, love the efficiency, etc. While I had kind of given up on other turbo kits out there for various reasons, yours piqued my interest because of the apparent ease of installation, cost and potential performance. With a single turbo, I have fewer parts that may fail, fewer fittings that may come loose, etc. Plus, from my Suby days, I love twin scroll design.

Anyway, the point is, my decision on what kit to go with ultimately is multifaceted. Not just power. I look forward to seeing your results.

I hope to be able to answer more of your important questions in 2 weeks, but In terms of intrusiveness Sasha did a great job. I couldn't believe how little he removed, not to mention all the spash shields were left intact. Yes, the crash bar was removed, but this intercooler will absorb as much if not more then the crash bar. The intercooler is nice and beefy

xgrudgex 06-11-2012 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jofro6 (Post 1766728)
I've been trollin this thread for a while now... but, with this so close to being ready to go i really need to get a spare 10Gs in the bank quick lol

Did I miss something? When did the cost jump to 10k?

Not complaining... Just wondering....

valpozguy 06-11-2012 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JMac88 (Post 1766777)
I hope to be able to answer more of your important questions in 2 weeks, but In terms of intrusiveness Sasha did a great job. I couldn't believe how little he removed, not to mention all the spash shields were left intact. Yes, the crash bar was removed, but this intercooler will absorb as much if not more then the crash bar. The intercooler is nice and beefy

sorry to tell you but that intercooler will never ever absorber as much is a crash bar no way!

sent from my SAMSUNG SINGLE TURBO SGH1717

Dzel 06-11-2012 09:25 PM

I think he's summoning up kit cost, installation, and tuning

jofro6 06-11-2012 11:17 PM

Yeah just ballpark covering everything I would need, not just the kit sitting in my den in boxes lol Especially since i would still need the exhaust too considering the kit only works with specifics haha

Viera 06-11-2012 11:48 PM

10 grand sounds good right about now....

JMac88 06-12-2012 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by valpozguy (Post 1767021)
sorry to tell you but that intercooler will never ever absorber as much is a crash bar no way!

sent from my SAMSUNG SINGLE TURBO SGH1717

Why is that? They are both aluminum and roughly the same thickness. I figured with all the extra fins in the middle that it would absorb as much? I have no clue though, don't plan on getting in an accident lol


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Originally Posted by Viera (Post 1767249)
10 grand sounds good right about now....

After watching Sasha build the kit, and hearing how many of the 350 guys install themselves I would cut out the install and do it myself. You should see the install manuals he sends out, they are works of art themselves.

wheee! 06-12-2012 07:25 AM

....I hear it's easier than camber arms..... :stirthepot:

Boosted Performance 06-12-2012 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by wheee! (Post 1767521)
....I hear it's easier than camber arms..... :stirthepot:

OHHHHHHHHH SNAP! It’s on now James….

Now as far as the install goes, I would encourage customers to do the install themselves. I would say the hardest part of the install would be the fuel pump…the rest is rather simple. The injectors are plug and play, with pigtails, so once the plenum is removed it is a 30 minute job to get the rails out, new injectors in and the fuel rails back in the car.

The exhaust part of the install is as involved as installing a set of test pipes, and uses the same amount of hardware (nuts/bolt/washers…ect). The down pipe is all V-bands and it really doesn’t get simpler than that.

There are only 3 pipes between the turbo and the intercooler, and those would be very hard to mess up. In the engine bay there are 4 pipes, and each end has a label on it indicating location. The entire IC system uses only 10 couplers, so it is very simple and straight forward.

Oil filter relocation and oil cooler are also straight forward, and again each line has a label at each end indicating location. So if you can read 4 word sentences you are good to go.

The scavenge pump/bracket will come pre-assembled so it will be a bolt on (two bolts and that’s it).

jofro6 06-12-2012 11:33 AM

Wish i had the ability, or tools to do something like this on my own... or even the room in my driveway to do it haha

as a side question, just cause i have never done FI on a car that wasnt already stock from the factory with a turbo, what would be pointless bolt-ons to buy that FI would just require removing? Intakes, test pipes etc? I would rather not spend money on things that are just going to come off in a year lol


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