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blackonorange 03-24-2012 03:32 PM

Lol^^ anyways I fixed my obd plug and it works now I've been data logging for a couple minutes this morning just at idle , since I personally don't have the base tune I can't tell you guys specs :( but on the positive side the cable seems to be staying connected for both data logging and rom editor so unless I'm missing something it works fine?

SharpByCoop 03-24-2012 05:16 PM

:)

Mr.Squeeze 03-24-2012 10:25 PM

Sounds good man time to turn up the boost

blackonorange 03-24-2012 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Squeeze (Post 1619145)
Sounds good man time to turn up the boost

I need a good tune first , I was messin around data logging today just at different rpms at idle and it seems I'm lean at rpms above 1200 ish like 15-16 to 1 is this serious , I don't know how much my idle matters and also the car doesn't start with out giving it gas if it hasn't been running for a while , what gives? I have a different tuner comin to look at it Tommorrow so take a look at the software.

Mr.Squeeze 03-24-2012 11:28 PM

At idle thats not a problem at all if it was full throttle thats would be a different story.Is your car having trouble starting after its been running for a while ?

blackonorange 03-24-2012 11:41 PM

I wasn't able to data log the car under load since it snowed -_- and it only starts rough when it's cold it starts great when warm/ hot

tower74 03-25-2012 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by blackonorange (Post 1619199)
I wasn't able to data log the car under load since it snowed -_- and it only starts rough when it's cold it starts great when warm/ hot

Mine doesn't start when it's hot and starts like a champ when it cold. Starting to wonder about alll the problems......:ugh2:

blackonorange 03-25-2012 11:44 AM

Oh mIne still starts just some times you gotta give it like 1/8th throttle , not surprising since my car isn't even tuned lol

tower74 03-25-2012 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by blackonorange (Post 1619566)
Oh mIne still starts just some times you gotta give it like 1/8th throttle , not surprising since my car isn't even tuned lol

It might get worse. Mine started out just every once in awhile then it turned into a every single time the car is hot issue. I'm hoping to have it solved when I get back in town. Seems you're having issues with the Uprev cable and tune. Starting to wonder about the tunes for these cars on this kit.

Boosted Performance 03-25-2012 07:13 PM

Tuning is not just fuel and timing at WOT. There are many tables to be adjusted...things like IAT correction tables, coolant temperature correction tables, Cranking injector time, post-start enrichments..ect.

Once all of these are tuned, the car should start just like stock no matter what injectors/fuel system you have in there, and in all weather conditions.

blackonorange 03-25-2012 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by tower74 (Post 1620093)
It might get worse. Mine started out just every once in awhile then it turned into a every single time the car is hot issue. I'm hoping to have it solved when I get back in town. Seems you're having issues with the Uprev cable and tune. Starting to wonder about the tunes for these cars on this kit.

No my problem was with obd female plug , the car is insane even on this base tune, I've only hit boost a couple times and it's fun as hell final tuning is this weekend, love the kit and love the sound And all for 9500 $ including gauges and install best bang for your buck

blackonorange 03-25-2012 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Boosted Z (Post 1620157)
Tuning is not just fuel and timing at WOT. There are many tables to be adjusted...things like IAT correction tables, coolant temperature correction tables, Cranking injector time, post-start enrichments..ect.

Once all of these are tuned, the car should start just like stock no matter what injectors/fuel system you have in there, and in all weather conditions.

Your right all we did was very minimal just put the car on the safe side.

blackonorange 04-01-2012 10:18 AM

A little update for you guys the car makes 380 and 320 trq on the mustang Dyno , the car is a monster I need a clutch, :( ill post the Dyno slip in a bit this is on 6 psi with my rain sock on, the car pulls so hard, really impressive

Mr.Squeeze 04-01-2012 11:30 AM

Congrats on the results I know you have a smile on your face .

blackonorange 04-01-2012 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Squeeze (Post 1633657)
Congrats on the results I know you have a smile on your face .

Idk what the numbers would be on a dynojet but thanks man the car and this kit are insane

theDreamer 04-01-2012 12:22 PM

Glad to hear you are enjoying the kit, just remember one thing.....you hate filling up before, you will hate it even more now. :p
I went three days last week before I had to fill up my car, had to take advantage of the nice days here in Texas. :tup:

tower74 04-01-2012 03:11 PM

Are still going to take it another tuner to get more out of the kit?

blackonorange 04-01-2012 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by tower74 (Post 1633920)
Are still going to take it another tuner to get more out of the kit?

I did , this is on a mustang Dyno now tho he says id be around 410 On the Dyno jet in town, and I believe him the car Pulls waaaayyyy harder

Mr.Squeeze 04-01-2012 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by blackonorange (Post 1633937)
I did , this is on a mustang Dyno now tho he says id be around 410 On the Dyno jet in town, and I believe him the car Pulls waaaayyyy harder

Sounds good 6 psi is nothing are you going to turn it up more ?

blackonorange 04-01-2012 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Squeeze (Post 1634113)
Sounds good 6 psi is nothing are you going to turn it up more ?

Eventually yes buy a clutch and meth injection is next

Staples 04-01-2012 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by blackonorange (Post 1634144)
Eventually yes buy a clutch and meth injection is next

Good idea, enjoy / get use to the added power.

Speedy 04-02-2012 07:11 PM

Mustang dynos do read lower than a Dynojet...I'd bet your car is 420RWHP on a Dynojet.

Mr.Squeeze 04-02-2012 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Speedy (Post 1636115)
Mustang dynos do read lower than a Dynojet...I'd bet your car is 420RWHP on a Dynojet.


Not all mustang dynos read lower it depends on how its's calibrated. I have seen a high reading mustang dyno.

Speedy 04-02-2012 07:30 PM

If you say so. I've never seen one read higher...ever.

blackonorange 04-02-2012 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Speedy (Post 1636143)
If you say so. I've never seen one read higher...ever.

Yea I've never seen one either all I know is it pulls alot harder and longer on 380hp then it did on 380hp on the dynojet

blackonorange 04-02-2012 08:44 PM

Also it blows my clutch off in 3rd / 4th gear where as before it didn't at all

Speedy 04-02-2012 09:45 PM

I'm sticking by my earlier statement.....I'm betting 420 to the wheels.

Niztalgic 04-02-2012 09:47 PM

Probably so, mine came in at 367 on a mustang and 404 on a dyno jet

blackonorange 04-02-2012 10:06 PM

Ima try and get back on the Dyno jet some time I gotta save some cash now tho for a clutch :(

tower74 04-02-2012 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by blackonorange (Post 1636382)
Ima try and get back on the Dyno jet some time I gotta save some cash now tho for a clutch :(

And the bill gets higher for mods.....but it's well worth it!!!:driving:

Mr.Squeeze 04-02-2012 10:52 PM

Most of them do read low, I use to think the same thing tell I saw Performance Motorsports Mustang dyno results.I have seen dyno's of NA z over 340WHP on that dyno I have never seen a z do that on any dyno.

Either way this one doesnt seem like it's giving out high numbers.Those numbers dont seem high.

hindi1973 04-05-2012 01:47 AM

Well from my personal experience UAM and sts did an
Amazing job on the 2010 nismo STS 370z it was built and tuned in the USA
And they overcame alot of simple issues but in the end the job was done then shipped half way around the world to us although we have different temps, sea levels etc etc but the the car runs perfect and tune didn't need anything althouh it was tuned on 7psi and we increased it to 11.2 psi approx and still is amazing tuning , I will post dyno vids and graphs soon but it made 450whp on dynapack in the USA on 7 psi and some change and passed 500whp on dynojet once boost was turned to eleven and some change ,believe it or not full boost is at 3800 rpm to 4000rpm but once on the dyno the graph showed us the best torque curve is at 4500 rpm so if we will roll race not on the streets ofcourse  it will be at that RPM , it's a very good kit for the price and changes the car to an amazing beast and it smoked a GTR and a 911 turbo both are stOck I guess and they were new models , their is alot of advatanges such as sound ,performance etc etc , but the dislikes are as follows
The sound of the pump is a bit on the high side at the back, gets abit stinky as well lool smells like hot oil , didnt smell that with gtm kit,and the pipes all the way at the back are on the low side so the driver needs to be careful on bumps and stuff don't need any leaks or why ever , we are trying to overcome the p0106 code that pops up all the time but as long as it doesn't effect performance it's all good , we did notice that intake temps jumps fast from 88c to 97c on pulls once boost increased in 20c weather and it wasn't hot so I guess regardless turbos are in the front or back these new 370z's really hate boosting unless u add things like methanol and cooling upgrades and other stuff and that is something we will do very soon and increase boost to 15 psi and see where we are but next season I guess it's getting hot here now so season is over almost , anyway this is my honest review , the one million dollar qustion is will I go for sts kit or gtm , I can't answer that yet , it depends on taste as well for example the owner of the sts didn't like gtm kit and the gtm kit owner didn't like the sts kit ,we are gana make a roll race between both cars STS nismo vs 40th anniversary GTM stage one , in the end it depends on the budget and personal prefrence but if it was me and wanting to build a 370z I'll go with gtm for sure or any twinturbo kit because I prefer twin turbos all the time 

UAM all the way , let's wait and see how the greddy kit will do compared to those ,I'll keep u guys posted

thank you all

Mr.Squeeze 04-05-2012 07:43 AM

^^^^^^^^^^^^ Great review :tup: I am in the process of going turbo my self ,and decided on Stage 3 GTM.

It came down to 4 kits GTM Greddy STS and Boosted performance Mid Mount kit that's coming out later this year.

I do think the STS is a good kit a lot of 350z guys have it.

Dzel 04-05-2012 08:14 AM

Hopefully with your clutch you'll pull better numbers.

esfourteen 04-05-2012 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Speedy (Post 1636143)
If you say so. I've never seen one read higher...ever.

not to derail the thread, but theres a mustang dyno near me that reads higher than dynojets, stock Z's putting down near 300whp, 340+ with bolt ons.

O&G 04-05-2012 10:36 AM

my baseline on a Mustang was 260 whp 207wtq....lol, dynos are tools. Calibration, location, atmospheric conditions, position of the sun, gear the car is run in, blah blah blah the variables are endless.

Dzel 04-05-2012 10:40 AM

:iagree:

Speedy 04-05-2012 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O&G (Post 1641750)
my baseline on a Mustang was 260 whp 207wtq....lol, dynos are tools. Calibration, location, atmospheric conditions, position of the sun, gear the car is run in, blah blah blah the variables are endless.

Exactly. Crack me up to see people dyno race.

Before and after on the same dyno is about the best you can do to know what your mods gave you, no more no less.

Run it at the 1/4 mile if you wanna know how much power it really makes.

esfourteen 04-05-2012 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Speedy (Post 1641803)
Exactly. Crack me up to see people dyno race.

Before and after on the same dyno is about the best you can do to know what your mods gave you, no more no less.

Run it at the 1/4 mile if you wanna know how much power it really makes.

Thats all correct, but the point was you shouldn't assume that a mustang will always read lower than a dynojet as some are suggesting. While not as common, they can in fact read just as high if not higher.

SharpByCoop 04-05-2012 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Speedy (Post 1641803)
Exactly. Crack me up to see people dyno race.

Before and after on the same dyno is about the best you can do to know what your mods gave you, no more no less.

Run it at the 1/4 mile if you wanna know how much power it really makes.

Correct on the dyno assumptioins, yet, dynos are MUCH more consistent than a 1/4 mile drag pass. That's why they are so often used AND compared. Not perfect, though. Agreed.

I was underwhelmed at the "Outstanding bang for the buck" statement at 'just' 380whp. $9,000 for @ 80whp?

That said, I know how quickly the value can increase. It is proportional to the boost PSI .... :tup:

Coop


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