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blackonorange 03-01-2012 07:58 PM

***Blackonorange's STS Turbo Build!! - Done by Speedtech Saskatoon***
 
Well guys ive had the kit for a while but its just taken a while to get everything settled but anyways here we go!!

The Car - 09 370Z 6MT sport/touring 30k km

http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/a...02/image-5.png

The Parts! (btw everything was packaged professionally STS did a very good job and everything was perfect!)

http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/a...02/photo-2.jpg

I went with the ball bearing turbo upgrade and 7lb spring

The car has been in the shop for about 3 weeks now but they didnt start working on it till the past monday!!! During the 3 weeks STS has been contacting me twice a week asking how it was going, and the install wasnt even started yet!! Great customer service on their part! Couldnt be happier!

I have a video of the base run dyno but ill post it later, the stock dyno was 273whp and 237wtq!! Now on to the install pics!!!!

http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/a...02/image-4.jpg

Intake pipe coming from the back around to the intercooler!

http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/a...02/image-3.jpg

Da PIPES!!!!!

http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/a...02/image-2.jpg

Big ole cheese grader hangin out!

http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/a...02/image-1.jpg

The snail and exhaust pipes!!!

http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/a...2002/image.jpg

The Y-Pipe!!! Note: this is the old y pipe that comes with the kit STS has since changed their y pipe and you can see it with the dual resonaters on their thread

http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/a...02/photo-1.jpg

my favourite shot!!! Cheese grater and all the pipes !!!


Tommorrow is gauge and tuning day so hopefully ill have some pics of under the hood and maybe just maybe a dyno vid !!!

Jamaica 03-01-2012 08:03 PM

Wow. Great so far. I like those wheels

blackonorange 03-01-2012 08:05 PM

DREW!!! i forgot to mention you!!!! big ups to Jamaica at UAMotorsports as well they helped with all the shipping and bs to get the kit into canada. I texted drew non stop for 2 weeks about the turnaround times and different questions about the kit great customer support on his part as well

blackonorange 03-01-2012 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamaica@UAMotorsports (Post 1576424)
Wow. Great so far. I like those wheels

haha thanks man 360 forged sl 10, 19 x 10 0 offset and 19 x12 -13 on the rears

Jamaica 03-01-2012 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackonorange (Post 1576441)
haha thanks man 360 forged sl 10, 19 x 10 0 offset and 19 x12 -13 on the rears

Glad I was able to help out. The wheels look amazing. Hope your ready for boost.

Rocketogre 03-01-2012 08:45 PM

That intercooler is certainly and interesting design. Is there some kind of divider build into the center tank to help distribute the air evenly?

blackonorange 03-01-2012 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rocketogre (Post 1576498)
That intercooler is certainly and interesting design. Is there some kind of divider build into the center tank to help distribute the air evenly?

i looked inside and yea it looked kind of like a baffle idk it was hard to see

Mr.Squeeze 03-01-2012 09:28 PM

In for results, if you can when you get the car tuned post a boost graph.

Good luck with the rest of your install looks good so far.:tup:

NYBladeZ 03-01-2012 09:54 PM

awesome build thus far can't wait to see the final results, good luck.

Jordo! 03-01-2012 10:06 PM

What cfm/hp is the FMIC rated for?... looks a bit on the small side...

That Y pipe is massive -- what's the diameter?

Otherwise, looks really good -- good luck! :tup:

blackonorange 03-01-2012 10:06 PM

Thanks guys I will post all the graphs I can after the Dyno quick question tho , what grade of oil you guys running after going FI ?

blackonorange 03-01-2012 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 1576701)
What cfm/hp is the FMIC rated for?... looks a bit on the small side...

That Y pipe is massive -- what's the diameter?

Otherwise, looks really good -- good luck! :tup:

You gotta remember the intake temps will be Low with all the travel from the back of the car I'm sure it will be fine and I forget what the y pipe was I wanna say 2 1/2

tower74 03-01-2012 11:26 PM

Trust me you are at the worst part of the build:excited:....Knowing that it will be done soon and not wanting to wait. It was tearing me apart waiting for mine to get finished. Definitely what to see your numbers. I'll try to post mine on the STS thread after this weekends dyno run. Best of luck with the rest of the build!!!!:tup:

tower74 03-01-2012 11:27 PM

By the way your girl looks like mine...except the wheels...oddly enough same turbo system.

DIGItonium 03-01-2012 11:41 PM

Sweet! There's a guy in my town who has a tuned STS 350Z VQ35DE. On Dyno Dynamics, he got roughly 407 whp and 399 ft-lb at 9.5 PSI. From the curve, it doesn't build max power until 5k, so it looks like a big bell curve. I haven't checked to see what it's like on our platform.

blackonorange 03-02-2012 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 1576701)
What cfm/hp is the FMIC rated for?... looks a bit on the small side...

That Y pipe is massive -- what's the diameter?

Otherwise, looks really good -- good luck! :tup:

Quote:

Originally Posted by DIGItonium (Post 1576893)
Sweet! There's a guy in my town who has a tuned STS 350Z VQ35DE. On Dyno Dynamics, he got roughly 407 whp and 399 ft-lb at 9.5 PSI. From the curve, it doesn't build max power until 5k, so it looks like a big bell curve. I haven't checked to see what it's like on our platform.

I think ours will spool faster then that but we will see

XwChriswX 03-02-2012 05:29 AM

And thoughts on taking the restrictive stock cats off and replacing them with something allowing for better flow?

'10Anamoly 03-02-2012 07:09 AM

In for results. :tup:

sfearl1 03-02-2012 07:52 AM

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edub370 03-02-2012 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 1577059)
And thoughts on taking the restrictive stock cats off and replacing them with something allowing for better flow?

I can tell you that volume will be your main issue at that point. remember, if you put tp's or something there you are essentially running straight pipes, save for the turbo

I'm looking to probably go sts at some point later in the year, and will be getting rid of my unresonated tp's when that happens. a HFC or resonated tp might work ok

blackonorange 03-02-2012 08:11 AM

Marc at STs advised me to leave the cats stock as they carry the most heat back to the turbo and In turn spools it faster

kosstick 03-02-2012 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by blackonorange (Post 1577167)
Marc at STs advised me to leave the cats stock as they carry the most heat back to the turbo and In turn spools it faster

Won't the extra heat destroy the cats faster

Mr.Squeeze 03-02-2012 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by kosstick (Post 1577283)
Won't the extra heat destroy the cats faster



Stock cats wont last at all there not made to take that type of heat.

blackonorange 03-02-2012 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kosstick (Post 1577283)
Won't the extra heat destroy the cats faster

I asked Marc that and he said as long as you don't dump the fuel to it or run sure rich the cats will last as long as the engine will I trust him so we shall see

Cell 03-02-2012 10:47 AM

I am not sure how the cats can transfer heat from one location to the next. From my understanding the cats act like a sponge for heat. If it absorbs the heat, not sure how much of it is really sent down the rest of the exhaust pipe.

If you are pushing more power, the car is bound to make more heat. The increase heat will destroy those cats. I have shown proof of it on many other cars in the other STS thread. If you do a search you will find many more that had destroyed their turbos or had bent blades because of the cats coming apart.

kosstick 03-02-2012 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackonorange (Post 1577413)
I asked Marc that and he said as long as you don't dump the fuel to it or run sure rich the cats will last as long as the engine will I trust him so we shall see

Going off my Supercharger experience.. Not sure if SC create more heat down their than Turbos..

tower74 03-02-2012 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cell (Post 1577523)
I am not sure how the cats can transfer heat from one location to the next. From my understanding the cats act like a sponge for heat. If it absorbs the heat, not sure how much of it is really sent down the rest of the exhaust pipe.

If you are pushing more power, the car is bound to make more heat. The increase heat will destroy those cats. I have shown proof of it on many other cars in the other STS thread. If you do a search you will find many more that had destroyed their turbos or had bent blades because of the cats coming apart.

Not sure if that was from the older system or what but I've now have over 3500 miles on my kit and the turbo is still looking good. Trust me I'm not easy on it either. Not saying I'm boosting hardcore everywhere I go but it has a lot of miles on it with no problems. My only question would be maybe there was something already wrong with their cats before the system was installed. Something like that would be hard to say if it was the turbo and the extra heat that it causes could of been the reason for that but I'm sure had a hand in it.

Alchemy 03-02-2012 11:06 AM

In for results.

blackonorange 03-02-2012 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cell (Post 1577523)
I am not sure how the cats can transfer heat from one location to the next. From my understanding the cats act like a sponge for heat. If it absorbs the heat, not sure how much of it is really sent down the rest of the exhaust pipe.

If you are pushing more power, the car is bound to make more heat. The increase heat will destroy those cats. I have shown proof of it on many other cars in the other STS thread. If you do a search you will find many more that had destroyed their turbos or had bent blades because of the cats coming apart.

I know you had good points but those cars weren't 370s and you don't know what their tune was like if the tuner just dumps the fuel to it that's when they fail I had this exact talk with Marc and he told me about it and how it transfers heat I your that worried about email him, I'm not arguing with you anymore.

tower74 03-02-2012 12:01 PM

So when are you suppose to see your beginning numbers? I know the gauges and wiring take a minute.

blackonorange 03-02-2012 12:08 PM

Uhhh well supposed to get the base map from Marc today so maybe Tommorrow

Ron 03-02-2012 12:32 PM

Those cats are restricting exhaust gases, they are not getting to the turbo with the same velocity, it doesn't take just heat to make a turbo spool faster.

More power = higher exh temps, this will eventually destroy your cats, when that happens fragments are gonna take your turbo out.

This is just advise, not trying to bash on your build. :tiphat:

I like those wheels!, car looks mean.

Cell 03-02-2012 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron (Post 1577743)
Those cats are restricting exhaust gases, they are not getting to the turbo with the same velocity, it doesn't take just heat to make a turbo spool faster.

More power = higher exh temps, this will eventually destroy your cats, when that happens fragments are gonna take your turbo out.

This is just advise, not trying to bash on your build. :tiphat:

I like those wheels!, car looks mean.

That's what I was saying. I am not trying to bash either.

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackonorange (Post 1577596)
I know you had good points but those cars weren't 370s and you don't know what their tune was like if the tuner just dumps the fuel to it that's when they fail I had this exact talk with Marc and he told me about it and how it transfers heat I your that worried about email him, I'm not arguing with you anymore.


I still love your build just have that concern for the cats. If I were to go through the same build now, I would remove the cats for peace of mind rather than worry every time I boost.

gbrettin 03-02-2012 01:26 PM

What about ceramic coated hfc's? That would help keep the heat in right?

Oh yeah.

In for the results! (and videos if you can)

Boosted Performance 03-02-2012 01:56 PM

Agree with the comments on the catalytics. You will lose velocity and heat by keeping them. This will in turn make less power, spool slower, and once they blow up will destroy the turbo.

On a side note, that is the worst FMIC design I have ever seen. I thought the FMIC on the 350z JWT kits was bad, but this one takes the cake.

With the market fluded with nice fmic's (like the one linked below) why use something like that.

http://www.maperformance.com/product...stone_TRTT.jpg

Ron 03-02-2012 01:57 PM

There u go, and before you some start bashing on Boosted Z.. this is his work:

http://www.the370z.com/canada/14654-...-interest.html

erkthejerk73 03-02-2012 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boosted Z (Post 1577900)
Agree with the comments on the catalytics. You will lose velocity and heat by keeping them. This will in turn make less power, spool slower, and once they blow up will destroy the turbo.

On a side note, that is the worst FMIC design I have ever seen. I thought the FMIC on the 350z JWT kits was bad, but this one takes the cake.

With the market fluded with nice fmic's (like the one linked below) why use something like that.

http://www.maperformance.com/product...stone_TRTT.jpg

i agree it looks ugly, but if it does the job...

btw is it april yet?

edub370 03-02-2012 02:21 PM

I think that fmic would be plenty fine for the low amt of boost that most people are running. although not the most efficient, im sure switching intrcoolers at the psi level we run (7-10psi for most) would be neglegible. especially since there is already an extremely cool, dense charge coming from the remote mount turbo.

so could it be improved, ya. does it need to be, not at all

tower74 03-02-2012 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boosted Z (Post 1577900)
Agree with the comments on the catalytics. You will lose velocity and heat by keeping them. This will in turn make less power, spool slower, and once they blow up will destroy the turbo.

On a side note, that is the worst FMIC design I have ever seen. I thought the FMIC on the 350z JWT kits was bad, but this one takes the cake.

With the market fluded with nice fmic's (like the one linked below) why use something like that.

http://www.maperformance.com/product...stone_TRTT.jpg

and it begins.. Come on guys. I can understand your concerns but this is his first build. Let's just keep at that...HIS BUILD...People will choose what they like and for the price and performance. Not because someone else has a problem with the design, kits, etc. Just let the man enjoy what is about to happen and be happy for him. Sorry had to say it because it went from a simple concern to full blown "this kit is better" type discussion.

blackonorange 03-02-2012 02:41 PM

I though it looked cool.... But oh well :(


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