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Ron 11-30-2011 10:27 PM

Ron's "Finally my own TT build thread" Thread
 
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Project White ... Eagle

Pioneer – The word itself conjures thoughts of everything from heroic settlers blazing trails into the unknown to brilliant engineers on the... Ooops, no.. wrong build thread! :icon17: lol jk Sam & Mike

Aaanyway..Super excited to finally be typing this. For as long as I remember I've wanted to modify a car beyond the basic bolt ons and never got the chance to do so because of time or resources. Before getting the Z I have now I already had my mind set on going FI. I've spent the last few months asking members questions, talking to vendors and gathering parts.

I've been contemplating the idea of doing the install myself, as you can see on my journal I try to DIY as much as I can. It's heaps of fun, it teaches you a lot about your car and it gives you the peace of mind that someone is not half a$$ing the project... Unfortunately, I don't think I have the time to tackle this. So I am talking to shops right now about pricing, time frame and pretty much getting to know who I will be trusting my car to.

Anyway, last night I talked to Sam and the kit is supposed to be shipped Friday. I still have a couple of misc items I need to get and stuff to do/organize before the car goes under the knife. I will keep you guys updated as things move along.

My main goal on this build is not chasing a number, I am after doing things right the first time.

Now the parts list:

-GTM Stage 2 Turn-key Kit with GTX2863R turbos
-TiAL Q BOV's, relocated
-GTM 3" Downpipes w/ 38mm TiAL external Wastegates (0.4bar spring) Open dumps
-Fast Intentions 3'' TDX Catback Exhaust
-GTM ECU Flash with Uprev Tuner license
-Bosch EV14 650cc/min Injectors
-Walbro 255lph fuel pump
-GTM Fuel pump voltage stabilizer kit
-HKS spark plugs
-GTM 34R oil cooler with thermostatic plate.
-Southbend TZR SS clutch Replaced with Southbend 6 puck
-ZSpeed Metal CSC
-Southbend Steel Flywheel Too loud and I'm too anal, kept stock one
-GTM Windshield washer reservoir
-STRI Boost, Oil press and Oil temp gauges Replaced by custom digital gauges
-Innovate MTX-L AFR gauge
-HKS EVC 6 Boost Controller (New Gen)
-Redline MT-85 Trans Oil
-Redline 75W90 Diff Oil
-Redline 5W30 Engine Oil
-Redline PS fluid
-Castrol SRF clutch/brake fluid
-DEI fire wrap
-Polydyn high temp ceramic coatings (downpipes, exhaust manifold and turbo exhaust housings)


I should be getting some vacuum hose, the DEI fire wrap, Z1 silicone and fluids this week. As soon as the kit arrives I will be taking the exhaust parts for coating. Once they are back and I figure something out for transport to get me to work, the car will be going to the shop... Stay tuned and wish me luck! :D

Special thanks to:

-Sam@GTM
-Mike@GTM
-Jason@Baker Tuning
-Tony@Fast Intentions
-Jomer@FBNissan
-Joe@ZSpeed
-John@Z1
-Dustin@Z1
-Russel@RHDJapan
-Jason@Baker Tuning
-Johnny@Jtran Studio



LINKS

Parts

Ceramic coatings

Build Process

Build Process 2

Tuning @ Jtran Studio

Bryan 11-30-2011 10:35 PM

Sounds sick Ron. I've been following your mods for a while and have modeled my car after yours, I would love to see the finished product once it's done. Congrats on the build

Super Moderator II 11-30-2011 10:38 PM

good luck, i'll be looking forward to the finished product as well!

Skeeterbop 11-30-2011 10:40 PM

Subscribed!

NYBladeZ 11-30-2011 10:51 PM

Sub'd

GetYourWheels 11-30-2011 11:21 PM

Sub'd for sure

milo 11-30-2011 11:31 PM

What shop will you be doing the install? :tup:

Ron 12-01-2011 07:54 AM

Thanks guys, I'll try to post as many pics as possible and update as this develops.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryan (Post 1430343)
Sounds sick Ron. I've been following your mods for a while and have modeled my car after yours, I would love to see the finished product once it's done. Congrats on the build

Thanks man, what an honor!

Quote:

Originally Posted by milo (Post 1430589)
What shop will you be doing the install? :tup:

Not sure yet

weiboy718 12-01-2011 08:05 AM

That is a nice list! I like!

Congrats Ron!

theDreamer 12-01-2011 09:03 AM

Looking good, cannot wait to see it done.

elliotty 12-01-2011 09:13 AM

Very nice build! Similar to what I am getting ready to undertake. Sub'd for sure.

How hard was swapping the triple meter gauge? Did you do it yourself? I have seen the various other threads and can't decide if I want to undertake the replacement.

haitech 12-01-2011 09:19 AM

Oh yes Ron. Always a little late but better than nothing. :tup:

Ron 12-01-2011 09:35 AM

lol,yeah. Late bc I've wanted to build a car this way for years.

Quote:

Originally Posted by elliotty (Post 1430939)
Very nice build! Similar to what I am getting ready to undertake. Sub'd for sure.

How hard was swapping the triple meter gauge? Did you do it yourself? I have seen the various other threads and can't decide if I want to undertake the replacement.

Gauges are not mounted yet, that was just a "lets see how they look" test. You can actually see the cables dangling. I'll let you guys know how it goes. From what I've heard... it's a PITA!

theaudir8fan 12-01-2011 09:46 AM

looks good, hope you it all works out well for you

thetaste 12-01-2011 11:00 AM

In for this. Good luck and have fun!

elliotty 12-01-2011 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron (Post 1430984)
Gauges are not mounted yet, that was just a "lets see how they look" test. You can actually see the cables dangling. I'll let you guys know how it goes. From what I've heard... it's a PITA!

Ahhh, I see that now in the pic. I can imagine it is a real pain. I think I may be abandoning my original plan to swap the gauges, don't think I want to deal with it.

Good luck! Can't wait to see the results!

Red__Zed 12-01-2011 11:16 AM

Sweet build:tup:

DIGItonium 12-01-2011 11:23 AM

Wow! You're going all out. I see what came out of your extensive research haha. Congrats! You'll love it!

O&G 12-01-2011 11:24 AM

Ahhh yea, great parts list.... let me know when and where! DO WERK!

W.O.W. 370Z 12-01-2011 12:59 PM

Nice parts list. I am curious about the GTM FUEL PUMP VOLTAGE STABILIZER KIT. When did that start coming in the turnkey kit.

Mine didn't come with that.

Ron 12-01-2011 01:24 PM

It doesn't. It comes on their Stage 2 SC kit. GTM Motorsports*::*FUEL SYSTEM*::*GTM FUEL PUMP VOLTAGE STABILIZER KIT

TX_370 12-01-2011 01:27 PM

:gtfo2:



Just kidding :icon17:
Looking forward to seein it Ron!

W.O.W. 370Z 12-01-2011 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron (Post 1431357)

So Sam recommended it?

Wonder if I should look into one?

Ron 12-01-2011 01:49 PM

I recommended it and he supported the decision lol. I kept reading about unstable fuel pressure related to voltage drop outs so this should help...For all I know I might not even need it but I am trying to get all the basics covered and all precautions taken to avoid any issues.

W.O.W. 370Z 12-01-2011 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron (Post 1431412)
I recommended it and he supported the decision lol. I kept reading about unstable fuel pressure and fuel pump voltage drop outs so this should help...For all I know I might not even needed but I am trying to get all the basics covered and all precautions taken to avoid any issues.

Smart Man :)

Sub'd for progress.

theDreamer 12-01-2011 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron (Post 1431412)
I recommended it and he supported the decision lol. I kept reading about unstable fuel pressure and fuel pump voltage drop outs so this should help...For all I know I might not even needed but I am trying to get all the basics covered and all precautions taken to avoid any issues.

Best to prep early than react to something major later.

Ron 12-01-2011 01:57 PM

Yep. I was also looking into something to control and prevent knock. I've been reading about the J&S Safeguard but I'm still not sure how it would react to our weird ECU and VVEL. According to Sam, its not a plug n' play solution like in other cars but he is working on a kit that will make it so.. Then again, according to other tuners and the creator of the J&S... it should work. It's about $550 and it's constantly monitoring for knock, once it detects some it pulls timing just on the cylinder that knocked...As an alternative I'm considering meth injection, not to gain power but too keep everything cool and knock free, at least for summer.

theDreamer 12-01-2011 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron (Post 1431438)
Yep. I was also looking into something to control and prevent knock. I've been reading about the J&S Safeguard but I'm still not sure how it would react to our weird ECU and VVEL. According to Sam, its not a plug n' play solution like in other cars but he is working on a kit that will make it so.. Then again, according to other tuners and the creator of the J&S... it should work. It's about $550 and it's constantly monitoring for knock, once it detects some it pulls timing just on the cylinder that knocked...As an alternative I'm considering meth injection, not to gain power but too keep everything cool and knock free, at least for summer.

I believe HKS has a knock sensor but does modify the ECU or have any control it just monitors the car. Not sure I would want something tapping into the ECU, even though I do not want knock I do not want something modifying my tune.

modme 12-01-2011 02:09 PM

Do you have any pictures and installation instructions for the fuel stabiliizer? interested in getting it.

Ron 12-01-2011 02:14 PM

Not yet. GTM has yet to ship the parts. ETA is end of next week.

Dembflyr 12-01-2011 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by modme (Post 1431468)
Do you have any pictures and installation instructions for the fuel stabiliizer? interested in getting it.

From the looks of it on their site, it just looks like a relay and heavier gauge wire. You could put the same thing together for less than $20. Unless I am missing something.

Ron 12-01-2011 04:20 PM

^ probably so, you could piece it together for less

SharpByCoop 12-01-2011 05:07 PM

You are going top shelf on all of your parts, and I applaud you. Good stuff!

I won't agree with you here:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron (Post 1430314)
-GTM 3" Downpipes w/ 38mm TiAL external Wastegates (0.4bar spring) Open dumps

Maybe you aren't aware, but this will maximize the noise on this by running open dumps. This car is going to get to max boost VERY quickly, and every time it does it is going to go 'BLAAAAATTTTT!!!', annoying everyone.

Obviously mine, with internally rerouted returns, isn't showing any loss of power. :tiphat:

I'm showing my age. Stealth is cool. ;)

Coop

Ron 12-01-2011 05:29 PM

Thanks Coop. I followed your build and got a lot of good info from there. About the open dumps, I foresaw that I could get tired of the noise so I also bought the recirc kit in case it gets way too loud :D

esfourteen 12-02-2011 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron (Post 1431803)
Thanks Coop. I followed your build and got a lot of good info from there. About the open dumps, I foresaw that I could get tired of the noise so I also bought the recirc kit in case it gets way too loud :D

Congrats on doing this yourself, I'll be going down this road in another month or two. Though I have to say, I don't really know why everyone goes with external wastegates with these kits, 28rs from garret are internally wastegated turbos and its cheaper/less piping. Only reason I can see using external on these setups is > 20psi of boost or noise, 6-15psi with the stock actuators work great.

Mr&Mrs 12-02-2011 06:15 AM

Congrats! Sub'd

SPOHN 12-03-2011 04:19 PM

Sub'd for clutch feedback

Ron 12-03-2011 06:43 PM

The kit has shipped! :D:D:D

roplusbee 12-04-2011 11:28 AM

Awesome Ron. Are you going to get a shop in TX to do your install? I know you said that you didn't know yet, but I hear that there are a few good shops around.

O&G 12-04-2011 11:45 AM

The stock ECU will actually adjust timing too. I'm very interested in the voltage stabilizer set-up you got w/ your kit. I'm going to order it tomorrow. Meth kit is a great idea for this city, xspecially in the summer. Which kit are you leaning towards?


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